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Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

Who wins Florida on election day?


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Uh huh. He's the one coming at me with personal quips like a little baby.

A lot like you, actually. Your protege, perhaps?

Arlovski was the first fighter I became a fan of.
 
There's no doubt Trump has bigger rallies, but as has been said, that doesn't mean that are winning. Ron Paul had huge rallies, bigger than Romney or Mccain and he never made it past single digits in most states.
Trump people are just clinging to any info they can point a positive spin at.
 
Would you mind explaining how you think rally sizes correlate to votes in the general election to the point where we should discard the polling results? Because I'm not following the line of reasoning here.

I'm saying polling results are being fudged. For example, selective polling, including polling more registered Democrats. It's already been established that this is being done by certain polling groups (not all). Then there's the "monster vote" phenomenon:

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/08/08/the-monster-vote/
 
Headline is a paraphrase for cliffs, but here we go:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker---trump-win-election/88640044/


App maker: Trump will win election

LOS ANGELES — Despite a majority of opinion polls showing the 2016 presidential election going to Democrat Hillary Clinton, a smartphone app developer says his data suggests challenger Donald Trump will be the victor.

“Based on the stats we see, he looks strong,” says Ric Militi, co-founder of San Diego-based Crazy Raccoons, maker of the Zip question and answer app. His app poses questions and polls responses based on an average of 100,000 daily users. “I go with Trump, based on what we see.”

According to the RealClearPolitics average of opinion polls, which are performed by calling people on landlines and cell phones, and answering questions on websites, Clinton leads with 47.8%, to Trump’s 41.0%.

How can Zip’s results be so different?

“We’re not a poll. We’re a conversation, and 100% anonymous,” Militi says. “People feel comfortable answering questions without fear of being bullied or being called a racist. People can express themselves safely, and you get a pure answer.”

Some Zip questions:

— ”New polls suggest Trump is getting crushed by Clinton. Do they reflect how you are going to vote?” Some 64% told Zip they would vote for Trump, compared to 36% for Clinton. In the latestReuters/Ipsos poll, Clinton leads Trump, 42% to 36%.

”California, who you voting for?” Trump got 55%, compared to 45% for Clinton. In the latest Public Policy Institute of California poll, Clinton has a 16-point advantage over Trump, 46% to 30%.

"What do you honestly think Trump meant by saying "The 2nd amendment people can do something about Hillary? Vote against her? 63% Assassinate her 37%”


And another who's used Zip:

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ta-predict-donald-trump-presidential-victory/

Why would “media polling” be any less fraught with intentional bias than the presentations they broadcast on a daily basis? In short, they wouldn’t.

We first noticed this in the fall of 2015 during the later phase of the GOP primary race. The media narratives were not the same as the visible realities of what was taking place.

Donald Trump’s “engagements”, not just rally attendance – which is historic in scope, are magnitudes beyond the media talking points. Tracking social media, geographic non media polling, and alternate media matrices led us to believe Trump would dominate in the presidential primary.


The indications are evident and clear, however they are also indications that are relatively new to the world of politics. One example: look at the traffic for anti-Trump vs pro-Trump web sites. The #NeverTrump GOP web sites are at their lowest point of interest in the past 10+ years.

After looking at some of the more obscure statistics we concluded an epic landslide was about to take place in the Feb, March, April, May GOP primary. We were correct and Donald Trump won the nomination with the largest increase of primary votes in the history of presidential politics. Part of that success was the ‘Monster vote’.

The Zip App prediction is yet just another dot, another pixel, in a presidential and electoral map picture that is historic, uncomfortable and too challenging for those who are stuck in arcane political metrics for valuations.


This isn’t Romney or Bush’s milquetoast GOP. Nor is it recognizable to quisling’s like Bill Kristol, John McCain, Jonah Goldberg, Mark Levin or a host of other insufferable barking moonbats who are much more comfortable with their cozy UniParty, Hillary/Jeb Clinton/Bush.
I love that super scientific online data. Without it, we would never have legalized pot, passed transgender protection laws, and voted in Ron Paul for president.
 
The latest from the marmalade messiah
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Space is laughing his ass off by trolling everyone.
 
Breitbart conducted their own poll to expose MSM bias and it still had Clinton ahead by 5 points.
 
Space is laughing his ass off by trolling everyone.
I'm waiting for him to come out as a liberal laughing and making fun of us falling for his troll act the whole time because that would be the only thing that makes sense
 
Space is owning this thread and you all know it.

All I see are people who are acting very sure about something, but deep down still feel threatened. That's why they're constantly rustled, and that's why they're now resorting to snark.
 
Hillary's campaign being as slimy as ever.

Here's a new poll that the Hillary fans on here won't like:

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That's cool and all but you fail to realize many of those republicans and whites are not gonna vote for Trump. They are planning to write in someone else or vote Clinton.
She has 92% party unity while Trump has just 83%.

Same poll you are quoting shows Trump down by 8.
 
Lolllll. "But the size of the rallies!" I'm pretty sure the President is determined by how many people vote for her. Not the amount of jobless rednecks at your rally.

Keep crying Trump dudes. Cry all the way to the election, cry on election night about "them rallies though!" Cry for 8 years of Hillary as President . Cry when you have the next dumb ass candidate that won't win
 
I'm pretty sure the President is determined by how many people vote for her.

Stopped reading here.

What are you proud of? Voting for a globalist puppet shill like Hillary?

So continues the pussification of America. Too many weak men raised by single mothers, now marching to the polling stations and using their limp wrists to vote for a corrupt hag.
 
Stopped reading here.

What are you proud of? Voting for a globalist puppet shill like Hillary?

So continues the pussification of America. Too many weak men raised by single mothers, now marching to the polling stations and using their limp wrists to vote for a corrupt hag.

I actually support a globalist agenda. The globalization of the economy happened decades ago and will inevitably continue

Again, keep crying.
 
Then you are truly pathetic.

Ehh, the whole nationalist/globalist argument is made by people with can't hang in a global economy. Don't be afraid of change and progress, learn a transferable skill so when your job in the t-shirt factory gets shipped off overseas, you can feed yourself
 
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