Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

Who wins Florida on election day?

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Peteyandjia said:
Well, at least we agree it's a great scene.
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That guy at a party:

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HereticBD said:
I hope he has plans to spearhead a new party. If Trump loses, the Republicans are fucked as a major force in Washington. And hey, if you want to put on a tinfoil hat, that might have been the plan all along.
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Well, the Republicans are doing well in congress and in governing states so the whole party going under seems unlikely.

But they cannot get anything together on the presidential front. They can't even come close! Trump won the nomination fairly comfortably and Cruz was #2! Completely nonsensical.
 
With Georgia becoming a toss up state, I no longer see how you come up with a plausible path with trump. I already thought the GOP has a decent problem in figuring out how to win both Ohio and Florida. I thought Pennsylvania shifting a couple of weeks ago may have been an answer but when states like Georgia should be locks, you can't even begin to address the uphill battle a republican was going to have with the map.
 
Then they should all vote against him if they truly believe that.
 
And the other half want Hillary to drop out.

Typical non-story regarding Trump.
 
Clippy said:
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1 out of 5 republicans want Trump to drop out of the race??

That means, based on information gained in another thread, 4 out of 5 republicans are white supremacists. Racists the lot of them.
 
Clinton lead climbs to +7.7

Trump should start tweeting good things about the Olympics or something.
 
Lead Salad said:
With Georgia becoming a toss up state, I no longer see how you come up with a plausible path with trump. I already thought the GOP has a decent problem in figuring out how to win both Ohio and Florida. I thought Pennsylvania shifting a couple of weeks ago may have been an answer but when states like Georgia should be locks, you can't even begin to address the uphill battle a republican was going to have with the map.
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The only question that really remains imo is will she break Reagans record
 
Meh. I want him to stay in all the way to the end. If he left before the end it would be like waiting in a long traffic line, but not getting to see the horrific car wreck. Not that I am the biggest Hillary fan, but I want to see the shock and horror when Hillary shellacks him by 300 electoral votes and 10 million popular votes. I want to see the Republican Horror. It will be like the Red Wedding on GOT.

The way things are going now, it could end up even worse than that. Hillary has a huge network on the ground, Trump has none. Hilary has popular, A level surrogates (Bill, Barack and Michelle), Trump has Scott Baio. Hillary has a huge war chest she is spending, Trump has a small one he is not.

If Trump does not release his taxes (or releases them and there is a bombshell), and either does not attend the debates/does and gets disembowelled, we could end up with Hillary winning by 350 or 400 electoral votes.
 
Lead Salad said:
With Georgia becoming a toss up state, I no longer see how you come up with a plausible path with trump. I already thought the GOP has a decent problem in figuring out how to win both Ohio and Florida. I thought Pennsylvania shifting a couple of weeks ago may have been an answer but when states like Georgia should be locks, you can't even begin to address the uphill battle a republican was going to have with the map.
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The map is so bleak for republicans this election that all Clinton needs from the swing states are WI, MI and PA. Of those, only PA has shown to be of any concern. We almost saw some upside-down stuff, like Oregon teetering toward red, but it's not materializing.
 
HereticBD said:
I hope he has plans to spearhead a new party. If Trump loses, the Republicans are fucked as a major force in Washington. And hey, if you want to put on a tinfoil hat, that might have been the plan all along.
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Here was in interesting take on how this election could impact he GOP.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ion-of-the-new-gop-orthodoxy-on-crime/491735/

Teles: This is a very complicated question. And as a political scientist, the thing that strikes me is how under-determined the response to a very big Trump loss will be. If it’s very large, then it sends a signal beyond the personality of Trump, which is that you just can’t put together a winning presidential coalition on the basis of LePen-Americane. But if it is close, then it could be read the opposite way, which is that if you could just put a less obnoxious face on his coalition then it’s possible for the Republicans to succeed as a purely white-nationalist party. I have to think that if it really is a blow-out, then the authority of the Republicans who embraced Trump has to be weakened, that the NeverTrump people will have a strong claim to have warned their co-partisans that they were joining a sinking ship. But I think that one way to predict what is going on is that you’re going to have real factional conflict in the Republican Party in a way that you haven’t had in a couple of generations. The identity of the party is up for grabs in a way that it has not been in some time.

If it’s true that there’s going to be real factional conflict in the party, then one thing that suggests is that the power of party leaders is going to weaken, especially in Congress. As my friend Lee Drutman has argued, based on conditional party government theory in political science, if the Republicans are split factionally, the only way to govern Congress will be for party leaders to give up power over the agenda, and allow members to make coalitions they want—even with Democrats. That creates the opportunity for more strange-bedfellows coalitions, institutionally—party leaders won’t be in as strong a position to control the agenda. But simultaneously, the authority for party members to shift positions is going to be weakened, because they can’t just point to a consensus group of cue-makers as justification for changing position. So we may be going into a more anarchic sort of future, with shifting coalitions but also a lot of blame-avoidance dynamics among Republicans who are worried that whatever they do, they’re going to get punished and can’t hide behind the party power-brokers any more.
 
AnGrYcRoW said:
The only question that really remains imo is will she break Reagans record
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You mean the one with all but Minnesota? Nah. It won't be that. It will be a blowout though
 
Lead Salad said:
You mean the one with all but Minnesota? Nah. It won't be that. It will be a blowout though
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It was a tongue in cheek comment really but its going to be ugly if Trumps campaign continues on this trajectory.
 
Edit: Well obviously some mod merged this since it makes no damn sense this way.

.. among black voters for president in multiple polls (with links). That's shockingly impressive; he's blowing even Romney completely out of the water. Can anyone here even name 4 candidates for president without cheating? Jill something?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/
 
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