Movies Cinema becoming more camp than 70s, 80s, 90s?

[PBAC]

Or earlier even?

Werent we meant to grow up laughing at the absurd batman 70s show? Werent the superman movies just cheesey? Wasnt the Spiderman 3 dance scene widely panned as camp? Didnt the Godzilla-Gadzookie movie get written off as asanine? Didnt we all just know Karate Kid was kinda cheesey but not care cos it was a 90s flick?

How did we go from laughing at the peter parker dance ro Venom pumping his glutes in a full on slapstick scene in a series that was mostly more seroius. Kingkong riding around on a dragon wielding a sword. Cobra Kai somehow remebelishing the exact same plot, poking fun at itself, and then proceeding to showcase former military vets waging a gang war in the name of highschool karate dojos with a 100% straight face.

Its not even that theres no market for the goofiness but it seems like some of these things would have flatlined series and had them panned but now theres a free pass to just keep doing it and keep going.

 

[TheTickG]

Karate Kid was an 80s film, not 90s.

I haven't watched most of the other things you mentioned. But, that venom dance thing reminds me of people complaining about batman nipples in the Mr Freeze movie.

If I had to guess, it happened because writers ran out of talent/ideas and audiences will pay for anything if you slap the right label on it.

 

[Pliny Pete]

If you dont know the Karate Kid was an 80's classic then I dont wanna hear shit about your opinion on any shit else!

 

[Highway99]

And Batman was a 60's show.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Or earlier even?

Werent we meant to grow up laughing at the absurd batman 70s show? Werent the superman movies just cheesey? Wasnt the Spiderman 3 dance scene widely panned as camp? Didnt the Godzilla-Gadzookie movie get written off as asanine? Didnt we all just know Karate Kid was kinda cheesey but not care cos it was a 90s flick?

How did we go from laughing at the peter parker dance ro Venom pumping his glutes in a full on slapstick scene in a series that was mostly more seroius. Kingkong riding around on a dragon wielding a sword. Cobra Kai somehow remebelishing the exact same plot, poking fun at itself, and then proceeding to showcase former military vets waging a gang war in the name of highschool karate dojos with a 100% straight face.

Its not even that theres no market for the goofiness but it seems like some of these things would have flatlined series and had them panned but now theres a free pass to just keep doing it and keep going.

The Christopher Reeve Superman movies, at least 1&2 are still the best Superman movies you can watch.

There was nothing cheesy about karate kid.

Batman series started and ended in the 60s.

Bra, dont speak of the 70s, 80s or 90s era. It was too crazy for you to comprehend.

 

[IIIIIIII]

If you dont know the Karate Kid was an 80's classic then I dont wanna hear shit about your opinion on any shit else!

haha, i was freaking out while reading that like wtf, karate kid wasn't 90's lol.

 

[usernamee]

wasn't it an amazing time

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[RichardHarrow]

Lol biggest camp in Hollywood. That wife is his beard.

 

[moreorless87]

If you dont know the Karate Kid was an 80's classic then I dont wanna hear shit about your opinion on any shit else!

Honestly I tend to think it was also a much less cheesey film than meme culture makes it out to be, Your The Best montages and "Wax On, Wax Off" kind of obscure its actually a very well done drama with Mr Miyagi as a surrogate father.

The West Batman wasnt in the 70's either but the 60's.

 

[I Am Legion]

There is a time and place for Camp. Some of it is budgetary. I prefer camp over woke bullshit. There are some great low budget horror that is all camp and all fun.

 

[Gene Tunney]

I like 1980's Camp.

 

[Plissken]

I think it's less a problem with camp in general and more that serious moments and thoughts aren't allowed. It's the same issue with Whedon humor dialog cutting into serious moments in order to "relieve tension". It's something started by people afraid to feel or afraid of sincerity, afraid to be criticized for sincere works so they never commit.

The Godzilla camp was fine though as they were intentionally going for a more Showa era Godzilla flavor, there's historical precedent there and we got a serious Godzilla film from Japan around the same time.

 

[Spam On Rye]

There's nothing better than the 80s. Trans World Entertainment and Cannon Films put out some of the most entertaining garbage one could ask for.

 

[wh4tttt]

Too much PC and Hollywood got used to people buying up whatever was put out.

Lack of creativity and writing doesn't help either.

You can take any great idea in any genre and when it gets in the hand of WGA's minimum number of writers for a single movie. A case of too many cooks in the kitchen.

 

[moreorless87]

I like 1980's Camp.

To be honest I think people will look back on a lot of genre stuff from the 00's especially and thin it took itself WAY too seriously trying to play to the geek market who demanded it.

 

[Streeter]

The Christopher Reeve Superman movies, at least 1&2 are still the best Superman movies you can watch.

There was nothing cheesy about karate kid.

Batman series started and ended in the 60s.

Bra, dont speak of the 70s, 80s or 90s era. It was too crazy for you to comprehend.

Superman 2 is still a top 3 comic movie ever.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Too much PC and Hollywood got used to people buying up whatever was put out.

Lack of creativity and writing doesn't help either.

You can take any great idea in any genre and when it gets in the hand of WGA's minimum number of writers for a single movie. A case of too many cooks in the kitchen.

I think it's a lot like what happened with pro wrestling.

Competition drives innovation and creativity. All these massive mergers in Hollywood led to most movies being made by a very small group of massive corporations who just exist to milk whatever money they can out of existing IPs with little thought to quality.

Harvey Weinstein was obviously a bad guy, but look at the run of smaller movies he put out over 20 years. Guys like that are gone now and instead you have people like Kathleen Kennedy who think you can just throw money at shit, put a woman in it and make it gay and ride that to victory.

Of course it's easy to blame the studios but it was us stupid consumers who allowed it to get to this point by ignoring anything that wasn't a based on a comic book, star wars or a toy line from the 80s.

We are to blame for Barbie and Transformers and Marvel because it's the only thing we pay to see in theatres.

 

[Natural Order]

The difference is that schlocky shit in those eras was intentional and understood before production began.

The stuff they're calling "camp" today are artistic failures that were shooting for greater heights.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

There's nothing better than the 80s. Trans World Entertainment and Cannon Films put out some of the most entertaining garbage one could ask for.

Hoodlums.