Chess - Path towards World Chess Championship (Gukesh Dommaraju vs Ding Liren)

[idrankyourbeer]

I was going to comment on nf6 but I was in awe of the whole thing and didn't want to nitpick.

Your rating is increasing. You're on your way to becoming Sherdog's first GM.

i was at 430 the other day but then i got drunk and it all went sideways after that.

i'd prefer to stay in the 300's, in the 400's i was starting to get matched against decent players and legit actual cheaters. i want to get matched against people who have no idea what the hell they are doing, just like me.

there's absolutely no way in hell i am ever going to be able to destroy somebody just by moving my king if i get matched up against anybody who is competent. keep me in the noob lobby please and thank you.

actually now that i think of it, i kind of actually want to see just how far i can get, but in order for me to be able to get into any higher ranks i would have to play seriously, and that goes against my very principles of chess. i solely exist in the chess world just to piss people off.

i guess i could play legit and still piss people off. just force them into trading queens with me straight out of the gate, and then start trading piece for piece until we're only left with pawns and our king. i am more versed for those kind of situations and i will gladly secure a win just by running the clock out on my opponent as he chases my king around the board. and if i am ever in way over my head, there is always a chance that i can force a draw:

 

[Sweater of AV]

i was at 430 the other day but then i got drunk and it all went sideways after that.

i'd prefer to stay in the 300's, in the 400's i was starting to get matched against decent players and legit actual cheaters. i want to get matched against people who have no idea what the hell they are doing, just like me.

there's absolutely no way in hell i am ever going to be able to destroy somebody just by moving my king if i get matched up against anybody who is competent. keep me in the noob lobby please and thank you.

actually now that i think of it, i kind of actually want to see just how far i can get, but in order for me to be able to get into any higher ranks i would have to play seriously, and that goes against my very principles of chess. i solely exist in the chess world just to piss people off.

i guess i could play legit and still piss people off. just force them into trading queens with me straight out of the gate, and then start trading piece for piece until we're only left with pawns and our king. i am more versed for those kind of situations and i will gladly secure a win just by running the clock out on my opponent as he chases my king around the board. and if i am ever in way over my head, there is always a chance that i can force a draw:

Lol at not just playing ra8, qa5 etc. My man Abu needs a hard lesson in cutting off the board.

I can see why you might want to stay where you are. Enjoy being a GM of trolls.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Lol at not just playing ra8, qa5 etc. My man Abu needs a hard lesson in cutting off the board.

I can see why you might want to stay where you are. Enjoy being a GM of trolls.

i was feeling no pressure. just taking things one square at a time.

would have been even more hilarious had he promoted his 2 other pawns first before making the grave mistake of trying to finish me. guaranteed he would never ever consider moving his knights anywhere on the board again. that is the kind of fear that i strike in my opponents.

poor abu. i hope that he is doing well.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

god damn. like one of the comments says, this dude expends more energy walking than beating 8 chess players all at the same time.

 

[Sweater of AV]

god damn. like one of the comments says, this dude expends more energy walking than beating 8 chess players all at the same time.

The guys at the highest levels can do incredible things. Magnus has played against 10 people simultaneously while being blindfolded and easily wins every game. I don't remember the ratings of the opponents but I'm sure he would have had no problem doing it against players with relatively high ratings.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

at first i laughed my ass off thinking the analysis is just mocking the player for giving up his knight for what appears to be for nothing. then i realise that it really isn't trolling and it is a pretty good move.

i mean if it was me i wouldn't think twice about capturing that knight and then the promoted queen because fuck you that's why. and then i'd be like oh no!

 

[Sweater of AV]

at first i laughed my ass off thinking the analysis is just mocking the player for giving up his knight for what appears to be for nothing. then i realise that it really isn't trolling and it is a pretty good move.

i mean if it was me i wouldn't think twice about capturing that knight and then the promoted queen because fuck you that's why. and then i'd be like oh no!

Yeah, their only option was to move the knight and wherever they moved it left it open for capture though so her statement is a little pointless lol. d6 (or e7) guarantees promotion (and possibly a stalemate if black doesn't see the king is cornered). Ideally, she would have said "You sacrificed your knight for promotion."

What happened after bishop took on d6 and promotion? Stalemate?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Yeah, their only option was to move the knight and wherever they moved it left it open for capture though so her statement is a little pointless lol. d6 (or e7) guarantees promotion (and possibly a stalemate if black doesn't see the king is cornered). Ideally, she would have said "You sacrificed your knight for promotion."

What happened after bishop took on d6? Stalemate?

nothing yet but it would guarantee a promotion of the pawn and if it took right there and then it would be a stalemate. it would have to move out of the way otherwise it's going to be taken by the promoted queen right after, and after it moves out of the way the queen is going to start laying waste to blacks other pieces and flip the game around.

the bishop to e7 would have been a checkmate but the knight blocked it off. it's going to be a promotion no matter what, and the only option black has is to either force a stalemate or ignore the knight and start retreating its pieces, even though it's still going to be losing at least a knight or a bishop immediately after the pawn gets promoted, depending on whether or not black moves the king out of the way first, but it's going to have to move that king back one way or another after the promotion forces a check.

either way that was a filthy move and black is gonna be in a pretty nasty position. i guess black may as well just take the knight to save its advancing pawn because there's really nowhere else to put that bishop and that king will be moving and the other bishop will be getting taken either way. but it's going to be losing some pieces no matter what happens, unless white blunders the queen somehow. if the bishop moves to protect the black knight, the king is moving and it's losing the pawn and the other bishop first. if it doesnt take the white knight it's losing the pawn, the other bishop and then the knight. and if it doesnt move anywhere off of the isle then the queen is capturing it too.

 

[Sweater of AV]

nothing yet but it would guarantee a promotion of the pawn and if it took right there and then it would be a stalemate. it would have to move out of the way otherwise it's going to be taken by the promoted queen right after, and after it moves out of the way the queen is going to start laying waste to blacks other pieces and flip the game around.

the bishop to e7 would have been a checkmate but the knight blocked it off. it's going to be a promotion no matter what, and the only option black has is to either force a stalemate or ignore the knight and start retreating its pieces, even though it's still going to be losing at least a knight or a bishop immediately after the pawn gets promoted, depending on whether or not black moves the king out of the way first, but it's going to have to move that king back one way or another after the promotion forces a check.

I agree but I was curious if the game actually got played out after promotion. Or was that just a puzzle or something?

I'd be curious to see how the rest of the game went if they didn't stalemate.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I agree but I was curious if the game actually got played out after promotion. Or was that just a puzzle or something?

I'd be curious to see how the rest of the game went if they didn't stalemate.

i'm not sure either. but if this was a real game then it ended in either a stalemate, or white's queen untimately would have ended up laying waste to blacks pieces unless it blundered badly, and either they would have ran out of time or moves trying to checkmate each other, or white would have eventually pinned the king with its queen and king and then won. or at the very least end in a draw or stalemate.

but without a blunder with the promoted queen it would be hard for black to have been able to get back into the game after that move with the knight when it was otherwise in a dominant position and one move away from the mate.

in theory i probably would have taken the knight and pawns and gone for the stalemate either way, regardless if i'm unaware of the stalemate, or if i know that if i do then i'm gonna get fucked up and probably lose the game.

it was a genius sacrifice lol. any other move and it was game over for white.

 

[Sweater of AV]

i'm not sure either. but ended in either a stalemate, or white's queen untimately would have ended up laying waste to blacks pieces unless it blundered badly.

Ok, no worries. Yeah, I don't know. A queen vs two bishops, a knight, and a pawn seems like a pretty complicated end game imho. I might favor the latter actually but will probably depend on positions. Would be interesting to see it played out.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Ok, no worries. Yeah, I don't know. A queen vs two bishops, a knight, and a pawn seems like a pretty complicated end game imho. I might favor the latter actually but will probably depend on positions.

one of the two bishops and either the knight or the pawn is going off the board right afterwards. it just depends how black responds but ultimately it's going to come down to a king and a queen vs a king and a bishop.

it's a pretty nasty looking situation for black, i don't see how it recovers. it could still very well end up playing out to a draw or a stalemate. but white will be in a much stronger position in just a few moves after, regardless of how black responds.

 

[Sweater of AV]

one of the two bishops and either the knight or the pawn is going off the board immediately afterwards. all three will be gone in one fell swoop if the bishop chooses to take the white knight instead of moving it back to protect its own knight. it's going to have to move its king after the pawn promotes and that's where the fun begins. the moment it promotes either black takes for the stalemate, or it gives up one of its bishops the very next move, and then the knight on the following move. the king will have to move regardless and that pawn will ultimately be next regardless of whether or not black took the knight.

Oh yeah, in this instance the bishop comes off immediately. I'm not sure I agree with afterwards but regardless it's pretty lost for black.

 

[Sweater of AV]

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Oh yeah, in this instance the bishop comes off immediately. I'm not sure I agree with afterwards but regardless it's pretty lost for black.

black is kinda fucked either way. a stalemate might actually be in blacks best interest at that point, because things are going south for black real quick after that pawn gets promoted, in what was otherwise a game that would have been over in one more move.

a bunch of times i've had my king pinned and my opponents werent aware of it, but i was because i could no longer move my king, so i move another piece but then they see me move another piece so they shift their focus to that piece and smack that around too. and the next thing you know it ends in a stalemate.

i gotta be more aware of that and use it to my advantage. my opponent would be pissed. as soon as i get boxed in with nowhere to move my king and i only got like a pawn and a knight left on the board or whatever, i'm just gonna start throwing those pieces in front of my opponent and make an innocent looking run to promote the pawn hoping that they'll take that too instead of proceeding with their original attack. fuck yeah, stalemate FTW!

i also gotta look out for that as well and make sure when i have pinned my opponents king that they've still got an extra square to move back and forth between before i start picking off the last of their pieces. i've screwed that up a few times myself.

i'm still not that good at chess but i think i've pretty much figured it all out. i even learned about that sneaky little french move with the pawns, the en croissant or something like that. the one where a pawn can capture another one that passes them, even though it's not really in a position to capture them. that was a little bit of a mindfuck. i played a bit of chess even when i was 7 or 8 years old but i don't remember ever hearing about that one.

 

[Sweater of AV]

black is kinda fucked either way. a stalemate might actually be in blacks best interest at that point, because things are going south for black real quick after that pawn gets promoted, in what was otherwise a game that would have been over in one more move.

a bunch of times i've had my king pinned and my opponents werent aware of it, but i was because i could no longer move my king, so i move another piece but then they see me move another piece so they shift their focus to that piece and smack that around too. and the next thing you know it ends in a stalemate.

i gotta be more aware of that and use it to my advantage. my opponent would be pissed. as soon as i get boxed in with nowhere to move my king and i only got like a pawn and a knight left on the board or whatever, i'm just gonna start throwing those pieces in front of my opponent and make an innocent looking run to promote the pawn hoping that they'll take that too instead of proceeding with their original attack. fuck yeah, stalemate FTW!

i also gotta look out for that as well and make sure when i have pinned my opponents king that they've still got an extra square to move back and forth between before i start picking off the last of their pieces. i've screwed that up a few times myself.

i'm still not that good at chess but i think i've pretty much figured it all out. i even learned about that sneaky little french move with the pawns, the en croissant or something like that. the one where a pawn can capture another one that passes them, even though it's not really in a position to capture them. that was a little bit of a mindfuck. i played a bit of chess even when i was 7 or 8 years old but i don't remember ever hearing about that one.

Lol yeah it's en passant. It's actually surprising how few people know about it.

I expect you to publish a book on the theory of the stalemate in a few months.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Lol yeah it's en passant. It's actually surprising how few people know about it.

I expect you to publish a book on the theory of the stalemate in a few months.

i will call it "the art of the draw."

hows this for one?

Chess: Sujith61 vs idyb2025

Sujith61 (343) vs idyb2025 (356). Game drawn by stalemate in 50 moves. Click to review the game, move by move.

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i made so many stupid mistakes that i deserved to get bitch slapped out of the game. but i kept my cool and didn't let sujith get into my head. i simply just played my own game, taking things one square at a time.

in the end i walked away with my head up high and totally not defeated. but our good friend sujith from india? not so much. he probably got so pissed off that he said to hell with everything i stand for and then he started sucking back a few baconators.

 

[Sweater of AV]

i will call it "the art of the draw."

hows this for one?

Chess: Sujith61 vs idyb2025

Sujith61 (343) vs idyb2025 (356). Game drawn by stalemate in 50 moves. Click to review the game, move by move.

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i made so many stupid mistakes that i deserved to get bitch slapped out of the game. but i kept my cool and didn't let sujith get into my head. i simply just played my own game, taking things one square at a time.

in the end i walked away with my head up high and totally not defeated. but our good friend sujith from india? not so much. he probably got so pissed off that he said to hell with everything i stand for and then he started sucking back a few baconators.

I'll buy ten copies of The Art of the Draw.

Things really turned after move 16 lol. Nice save but man these guys really need to learn how to cut the board off. Lesson learned for our boy Sujith.

These games are emotional rollercoasters as a spectator.

 

[helax]

Chess is so fun at that level. Feel like starting a separate account now and messing around

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I'll buy ten copies of The Art of the Draw.

Things really turned after move 16 lol. Nice save but man these guys really need to learn how to cut the board off. Lesson learned for our boy Sujith.

These games are emotional rollercoasters as a spectator.

i did it again!