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Chechen rebel leader dead

Is he like dead, or is he like "Bin Laden" dead?



Chechnya?? Grozniy looks like Las Vegas, and Chechens are free to move in and out of Chechnya.

And yes Russians were brutal in Chechnya, but its in no way excuses attacks on civilians in Russia.



Now of course outside of grozniy its looks like shit, but its in not better or worse than russian villages. Chechens are fine now. I Dagestan on the other hand there are lot of explosions that are not shown on the news, but they are done by Islamic groups.


Funny how Zroc says: "people just follow whatever narrative the media spins" and then proceeds to do a similar thing lol, though I do agree with him.
That video does make the place look like Vegas.
 
I saw a video on bestgore where he beheaded a guy, he's beheaded a few guys actually. I hope his death was slow and painful.
 
"Umarov was killed in a security operation, which I wrote about earlier ... Now it is confirmed by the rats themselves," he wrote.
very nice!
 
I saw a video on bestgore where he beheaded a guy, he's beheaded a few guys actually. I hope his death was slow and painful.

If you're talking about the beheading of Russian conscripts that happened in 1999, it wasn't him.
 
If you're talking about the beheading of Russian conscripts that happened in 1999, it wasn't him.

No, it was a more recent video that happened within the last two years. His face was clear as day in the video and it was confirmed to be him in the description.
 
No, it was a more recent video that happened within the last two years. His face was clear as day in the video and it was confirmed to be him in the description.

I'm going to take a look, his ugly face is easily recognizable.
 
I'm going to take a look, his ugly face is easily recognizable.

The video i'm talking about is titled "Two Christians, One of Them Bishop Beheaded by FSA Jihadists in Idlib"

I was wrong in recalling that it was confirmed to be him in the description, But it clearly looks like him in the video.
 
Good. Fuck terrorists.
 
Seems like he did some things that made Allah mad tho.

Well he fought against Russians since the 1994,before the war he had a good job in Russia, money, family, but as the first war started he came back to defend his Homeland, and from just soldier became the president of chechen republic, and even established Caucasian Emirate.
I don't approve some of their ways of war, like attacking civilian targets in revenge for killing chechen civilians by russian forces, but that was their way.He began this war to win or to die on this path, and got what he wanted, at least one of two. I don't think you can understand that psychology.
 
I don't approve some of their ways of war, like attacking civilian targets in revenge for killing chechen civilians by russian forces, but that was their way.He began this war to win or to die on this path, and got what he wanted, at least one of two. I don't think you can understand that psychology.

It is true, we can't comprehend the psychology of the Jihadists. Frankly, they are a different species.

The best way for the West of dealing with Islam is complete separation. Don't invade their countries, and don't allow them into the West--at all. Complete separation is the only way to have peace with them.
 
Well he fought against Russians since the 1994,before the war he had a good job in Russia, money, family, but as the first war started he came back to defend his Homeland, and from just soldier became the president of chechen republic, and even established Caucasian Emirate.
I don't approve some of their ways of war, like attacking civilian targets in revenge for killing chechen civilians by russian forces, but that was their way.He began this war to win or to die on this path, and got what he wanted, at least one of two. I don't think you can understand that psychology.

He did those things by being last man standing tho, yes, after better men like Dudayev were dead?

I was sympathetic to the cause of Chechnya/Ingush originally, but the mass killings of civilians, beheading videos, and black AQ flags (plus them showing up in Afghan/Iraq to fight US soldiers) made me not really give a hoot.
 
Will Chechnya get to hold a referendum for secession now, or is Putin a typical hypocritical Russian kleptocrat?
 
The video i'm talking about is titled "Two Christians, One of Them Bishop Beheaded by FSA Jihadists in Idlib"

I was wrong in recalling that it was confirmed to be him in the description, But it clearly looks like him in the video.

I've seen that one. Horrible stuff.
 
It is true, we can't comprehend the psychology of the Jihadists. Frankly, they are a different species.

The best way for the West of dealing with Islam is complete separation. Don't invade their countries, and don't allow them into the West--at all. Complete separation is the only way to have peace with them.

The best way, is not bombing/invading countries of Muslims, then there will be no problem of "Islamic terrorism". For example Georgia in Caucasus, one of the most religious Christian countries I've have ever been, and people are also very religious, and no terrorism problems, with thousands of chechens living there, some of them veterans of two wars with Russia, living in Pankissi gorge, and still no conflicts, terroristic acts, explosions and hostage takings whatsoever, and you know why? Maybe, just maybe, cuz they don't try to bomb the shit out of every muslim country that doesn't fit their standarts...
 
He did those things by being last man standing tho, yes, after better men like Dudayev were dead?

I was sympathetic to the cause of Chechnya/Ingush originally, but the mass killings of civilians, beheading videos, and black AQ flags (plus them showing up in Afghan/Iraq to fight US soldiers) made me not really give a hoot.

Dzhokhar was really one on a million man, a great man of our age, great leader and a patriot of his Homeland, truly united our people on a way to freedom,and gave his life for it,but that doesn't mean Dokku was some lowlife criminal that have been last man standing, his bravery on the battlefield, was acknowledged in the first war, in the very beginning, and since then he never took a step back in his way of life, and his fight for freedom. He may be accused in radicalization yes, but the ones accusing him, did they try to stop Russia's destruction of Chechnya? When our nation was crying out to the whole world, nobody did shit, and nobody tried to help us(I am speaking of countries and governments), they just sold our fate, for some political games with Russia, and there's no way you can be surprised with that radicalization. When you are left alone, fighting biggest and one of the most powerful countries at the time, with population almost 130-150 times greater than yours, with better weaponry, there's no way you won't become radical.



As for the gaining freedom in 1996, the problem was that nation was not ready for it, we took our home, took our freedom from the Russians with death, blood and sacrifices, but we were not ready to use that freedom right. And many of the Russian special force agents in Chechnya did everything they could to establish a non-human barbaric image of Chechen people in the eyes of the whole world( beheadings of international organization workers and etc), just like they do in Russia right now, making all Ukranians look like nazi-jewish-russianhating-animals)))) same tactics-same lies, the KGB never changes, even if you call it FSB) and that works with militia, now being called police(милиция-полиция), the same stupid shit.
All that radical, extremist and radical things that you didn't like in Chechen resistance, was not fault of Chechnya alone, all we wanted was freedom and independence, and when Russia started answering us with tanks and bombs, we took weapons in our arms and started to fight for it, there was no extremist in the first war, you can find videos of Chechen leaders releasing Russian soldiers to their mothers , just if they swear that they won't ever fight against Chechen people, without any money, or anything. Where did you see something like that? And you can find that video on YouTube if you want. And did anyone help Chechnya and stopped Russia then? Nope, nobody did anything. That's why radicalization came when Chechnya was devastated of the two wars, when we lost 200000 people with almost 40000 of them children killed.
Nobody gave a fuck when schools were bombed in Chechnya, but when Basaevs men took a Beslan school in hostages with only one demand "to stop the war in Chechnya"(actually that was their main demand, also they demanded presidents of Ingushetia and Ossetia to come into that school, which they didn't), but with all that, Chechen president(at the time) Maskhadov made a statement, that he did not know about this operation, and he will come to that school himself and release all the hostages,on the same day that school was stormed by Russian troops, and you know what happened next.
Nobody says a word about such things, because of Russian propaganda machine, and anyone who knows how they describe situation in Ukraine on Russian TV, will understand what I'm saying.

Sorry for my poor English though.
 
Will Chechnya get to hold a referendum for secession now, or is Putin a typical hypocritical Russian kleptocrat?

Until there's Kadyrov's power in Chechnya(more than a 50000 thousand troops, that's 3 times more than Ichkerian forces ever had), there will be no referendum, more than a 150000 Chechens left Chechnya in recent 5-6 years, because of his tyranny, and his men abusing the power they got from Russians, they kill, torture and kidnap anyone they want,but at the first sight, everything is fine, cities flourish with life, new buildings, parks, malls and etc.
Kadyrov is a Putins man, he has money, power, and fear, when Putins reign will show any kind of weakness, Kadyrov will die in that second, because Chechens can delay their vendetta "for a better times", but never forget. And he have a lot of blood on his hands.
 
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