Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

[Blayt7hh]

Well, your "cons" are ridiculous. You're talking as if walking through a metal detector is a full body cavity search. Sorry, but no, I don't see walking through a metal detector as this traumatizing event that you're trying to frame it as. It would not have any effect on me, much like it doesn't anybody else who does it daily. It's not a big deal at all.

I’m not acting like anything. This is a researched and known, accepted fact.

It doesn’t matter what YOU see. You’re the one talking from a personal perspective on this. You are the one trying to tough talk this like what I’m saying is just being soft, but the facts are known and they’re on my side. Feel free to look into it.

As a last note on this I call bullshit on you personally not having a problem with this. Your attitude is not one of doing things for the greater good and I guarantee you would be the absolute first person bitching about it if you had to go through it yourself.

 

[HereticBD]

I’m not acting like anything. This is a researched and known, accepted fact.

Show me.

It doesn’t matter what YOU see. You’re the one talking from a personal perspective on this. You are the one trying to tough talk this like what I’m saying is just being soft, but the facts are known and they’re on my side. Feel free to look into it.

No. Prove what you're saying. What is your source on metal detectors causing people some sort of trauma.

As a last note on this I call bullshit on you personally not having a problem with this. Your attitude is not one of doing things for the greater good and I guarantee you would be the absolute first person bitching about it if you had to go through it yourself.

Dude, I've walked through metal detectors plenty in my life. I have never needed therapy over it, LOL.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

K

60,000 estimated civilian deaths in Gaza. Not counting the bodies unrecovered from the rubble. Kirk’s response?

Not a word about anyone dying. Its a joke about buildings being destroyed

a sarcastic comment that they dont have tall buildings to throw gays from.

You guys suck at this.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Not a word about anyone dying. Its a joke about buildings being destroyed

a sarcastic comment that they dont have tall buildings to throw gays from.

You guys suck at this.

Do you believe those buildings were empty of women and children when they were destoyed?

 

[Blayt7hh]

Show me.

No. Prove what you're saying. What is your source on metal detectors causing people some sort of trauma.

Dude, I've walked through metal detectors plenty in my life. I have never needed therapy over it, LOL.

No fuck you you don’t tell me what to do. I’ve already pointed you in the direction. If you actually care to learn it’s not hard to find.

The thing is I know you don’t care. I’ve had enough interactions with you to know that. Whatever sources I provide you’re going to choose to ignore or find reasons not to believe or count.

 

[HereticBD]

No fuck you you don’t tell me what to do. I’ve already pointed you in the direction. If you actually care to learn it’s not hard to find.

Then prove it. You're making the claim, and now you're sounding like you don't want to post your source, because I'm guessing that you're taking some study about the psychological effects of security measures in prison or some shit, and relating it to metal detectors.

Post your source, or we can all assume that's what you're doing.

The thing is I know you don’t care. I’ve had enough interactions with you to know that. Whatever sources I provide you’re going to choose to ignore or find reasons not to believe or count.

Post them, and we'll find out. Although, given your reluctance and doubt I'll take them seriously, I can only assume they're not the strongest of sources and they're probably not saying what you're saying. Otherwise, you would not be this defensive over proving something you're claiming so absolutely.

 

[Islam Imamate]

No fuck you you don’t tell me what to do. I’ve already pointed you in the direction. If you actually care to learn it’s not hard to find.

The thing is I know you don’t care. I’ve had enough interactions with you to know that. Whatever sources I provide you’re going to choose to ignore or find reasons not to believe or count.

Obviously he doesn't care and probably wouldn't read your sources anyway (these guys don't even read their own sources) but if you're making the claim it's on you to substantiate it. Even if you know he doesn't care it makes your argument stronger to third party observers. If you cited a reputable source I might use that argument myself but otherwise I'm not going to take it for granted.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not a word about anyone dying. Its a joke about buildings being destroyed

a sarcastic comment that they dont have tall buildings to throw gays from.

You guys suck at this.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

there was no official position the prior 1000 years. this view was a common view for many of those 1000 years.

it was a common interpretation for hundreds of years prior. there was no official church view.

Because only depraved Pagans thought it was OK to abort babies the Church didnt need to make an official statement on the matter.

lol. you're quoting the old testament as proof jesus taught life at conception.

Christ is the Word, so Christ is the OT and the New. If I qoute OT that is litterslly the words of Christ.

yet jews don't take the position that life begins at conception. but somehow you've determined that THAT is all the evidence you need. it's comical.

Jewish views on ensoulment have varied. Rabbi David Feldman states that the Talmud discusses the time of ensoulment, but considers the question unanswerable and irrelevant to the abortion question. In recounting a purported conversation in which the rabbi Judah the Prince, who said the soul (neshama) comes into the body when the embryo is already formed, was convinced by Antoninus Pius that it must enter the body at conception, and considered the emperor's view to be supported by Job 10:12

The view of ensoulment at conception harmonizes with general lore among rabbis about conscious activity before birth.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Weird that gun control works pretty well everywhere that they have actually tried it.

Metal detectors in schools are only an American thing, and they don't appear to be working particularly well.

They arent in all schools. They only put them in inner city schools where there are lots of gang related shootings.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Then prove it. You're making the claim, and now you're sounding like you don't want to post your source, because I'm guessing that you're taking some study about the psychological effects of security measures in prison or some shit, and relating it to metal detectors.

Post your source, or we can all assume that's what you're doing.

Post them, and we'll find out. Although, given your reluctance and doubt I'll take them seriously, I can only assume they're not the strongest of sources and they're probably not saying what you're saying. Otherwise, you would not be this defensive over proving something you're claiming so absolutely.

You made the first claim that they work. Where’s your source for that?

 

[HereticBD]

You made the first claim that they work. Where’s your source for that?

The real world where metal detectors are installed to secure areas from guns and other deadly weapons made out of metal. You know, like airports and such. Or are they a big waste of money that's there for decoration?

You're so obviously full of shit, LOL.

 

[UberHere]

You made the first claim that they work. Where’s your source for that?

Maybe the dems can form a committee to do a study and then start another tax funded program , that should help costs.



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Weird how we have no school shootings though. I wonder why that is?

If they don’t work, why do the court houses utilize them? And the state buildings?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

This is just cope, we know that the joke comes at the expense of the immense suffering of the Palestinians. If he was a comedian that'd be one thing but he's not, he's a political operative and thus it was incredibly crass. He had the right to say it and it doesn't in anyway justify what happened to him but it does justify the jokes at his expense.

Ah yes I'm famously indifferent to the Palestinians.

Anyway, now that you see that Kirk was happy to speak ill of the dead you can see why those he spoke ill of are ready to return the favor right?

I didn't hear him speak of ill of the dead. I heard him make light of their infrastructure being destroyed.

 

[kflo]

Because only depraved Pagans thought it was OK to abort babies the Church didnt need to make an official statement on the matter.

oh, really? the concept of when a human becomes a human isn't relevant except for abortion? c'mon.

Christ is the Word, so Christ is the OT and the New. If I qoute OT that is litterslly the words of Christ.

again, the point is it's the OT, and the jews don't agree with your interpretation.

Jewish views on ensoulment have varied. Rabbi David Feldman states that the Talmud discusses the time of ensoulment, but considers the question unanswerable and irrelevant to the abortion question. In recounting a purported conversation in which the rabbi Judah the Prince, who said the soul (neshama) comes into the body when the embryo is already formed, was convinced by Antoninus Pius that it must enter the body at conception, and considered the emperor's view to be supported by Job 10:12

The view of ensoulment at conception harmonizes with general lore among rabbis about conscious activity before birth.

i don't know what you're trying to argue here. jews don't believe in life at conception. you pretending that OT passages prove god teaches life at conception is just not a supportable position. the religious practitioners don't agree with you. the church didn't agree with you. the passage itself implies life BEFORE conception. but that's not what the passage is actually about. lol at "recounting a purported conversation"....

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yes and one of the people he bussed to the riot plead guilty to assaulting a police officer

Kirk is like a caricature of a Soros operative except he actually existed but since he carried out political agitation for the populist right he's canonized as a saint by the kind of people who normally make conspiracies about such folks.

Kirk is responsible for every single person that rode those busses?

Over a hundred people rode those busses, glad you found 1 bad apple.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Do you believe those buildings were empty of women and children when they were destoyed?

I believe that Israeli forces called for the people inside to evacuate before bombing them.

I can't confirm that no low life pos didnt force his wife and kids to stay inside as human shields/martyrs.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I didn't hear him speak of ill of the dead. I heard him make light of their infrastructure being destroyed.

It's common knowledge that civilians were crushed when those buildings came down, are you truly playing dumb about that? Do you think Kirk didn't know that? Are you saying if I make a joke about Kirk's death without using the words "death", "die", or "kill" that would be okay?

Kirk is responsible for every single person that rode those busses?

Over a hundred people rode those busses, glad you found 1 bad apple.

Yes on some level he is responsible for the actions of people whose presence at the Capitol on Jan 6th he materially facilitated, is it really crazy for me to claim that?

I found at least one bad apple in the sense of someone held responsible for their violent crimes that day but really all those people he bussed were scumbags in my view since the Stop the Steal cause itself was a partisan lie which undermined or democracy.

Kirk himself was one of the biggest scumbags of that movement, why should we act like he was some honorable public figure instead of the propagandist and agitator that he was?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

oh, really? the concept of when a human becomes a human isn't relevant except for abortion? c'mon.

again, the point is it's the OT, and the jews don't agree with your interpretation.


i don't know what you're trying to argue here. jews don't believe in life at conception. you pretending that OT passages prove god teaches life at conception is just not a supportable position. the religious practitioners don't agree with you. the church didn't agree with you. the passage itself implies life BEFORE conception. but that's not what the passage is actually about. lol at "recounting a purported conversation"....

I posted the passage from Judah the Prince who lived 2000 years ago claiming a soul happens at conception and he used the OT as the source.

Dont tell me what Jews believed. Even citing their belief today you would have to separate Talmudic Judism and Kariate Judiaism.

 

[kflo]

I posted the passage from Judah the Prince who lived 2000 years ago claiming a soul happens at conception and he used the OT as the source.

Dont tell me what Jews believed. Even citing their belief today you would have to separate Talmudic Judism and Kariate Judiaism.

again, the idea that the bible is clear that life begins at conception is a joke. if it was so clear, you wouldn't have jews believing the opposite. you wouldn't have had a church take the opposite position for hundreds of years. lol at "don't tell you what jews believed". im telling you what jews believe. you don't have to like it. but you can't deny the facts.

it's weird to argue something so aggressively that's so easily disproven. it's fine to argue your own belief. it's not fine to insist there's only one way to interpret the teachings when it's been interpreted differently for thousands of years.

do you think life begins BEFORE conception? because that's what the passage actually implies. if you want to try to apply it that way.