Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

[Siver!]

But doesnt this quote prove your assertion wrong?

“We protect our banks, airports, and sports stadiums with people carrying guns, but not our schools.

You can’t get into Dodger Stadium without passing 50 cop cars. You can’t go to LAX without going through security like a demilitarized zone.

But you can walk into a local elementary school with no one there to protect the kids.

We protect our money. We protect our airplanes. We protect our sports teams.

But not our children.

If we care about protecting kids, we should lock down schools and put trained, armed security there, just like we do everywhere else that matters.”

Your country is so sick with gun fever, even I now accept you should absolutely stack schools with defences.

They're obviously targets for nutjob Americans who have such easy access to guns that I don't really see how any place of gathering isn't fortified.

The choice of 'Murica is clearly turrets/guards over gun control, so deal with it.

 

[HereticBD]

Then post one.

@Darkballs...backing up his bullshit?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

At some point. Sure. That’s why there was actually rules about when that actually occurs. By the church.

After 1000 years of the church's existence

I’ll ask you. Why was tertullian relevant historically on the topic? If life at conception was so dominant and obvious why did it take a lawyer to influence the idea almost 200 years after Jesus death?

It didn't. It took philosophers 1200 years to influence a pope to say life doesn't begin at conception.

And again, if it was so clear the teachings of Jesus why did the church have an official view that was different for hundreds of years?

Because its obvious from reading the Bible itself. Something the church actually frowned on, btw.

I never said Jesus was “cool with abortion”. He said nothing about it, or when an embryo is a child. Hence the debate that occurred within the church. For over 1000 years. With a different view (of when human life began) being the official view of the church for hundreds of years.

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;

^^ Is that not the word of God? That would answer what Jesus taught/thought.

 

[deviake]

But he said the Pelosi attack was "awful".

And oh my, he bused people to a political rally - the horror. Good thing he wasn't posting bail for people rioting - that would qualify him to run for potus in the democrat party.



You guys have yet to post these calls for political violence from Kirk.



I dont see a problem with either of those statements. BTW, I believe he actually explained that there was no reason to punish the unborn child.

I'm not doing the repeating myself merry-go-round and call for =/= condone. That "political rally" was a dog whistle for violence with people calling for the hanging of Mike Pence and you know what transpired. Maybe he expressed regret for doing so, I dunno. I suspect not. I know enough about him, regardless.

I typed this

did charlie kirk call for political violence

into my browser. Here's what it came back with:

Charlie Kirk made statements that have been interpreted as endorsing or legitimizing political violence, though he did not explicitly commit violent acts himself. He called for using whips against migrants, stating, “Of course you should be able to use whips against foreigners that are coming into your country. Why is that controversial?”. In August 2025, he advocated for “federalizing” Washington, D.C., saying, “Roll in the tanks, bring in the military”. He also supported invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807 to suppress immigration protests.

Additionally, Kirk promoted a book co-authored by his podcast host that called for the mass murder of liberals and endorsed the idea of a “right-wing revolution”. During a podcast, he discussed emphasizing the part about “how to crush them,” referring to the liberal-left, and expressed a desire to stop being “nice” in politics. He also endorsed Unhumans, a reactionary manifesto that explicitly encourages violence against the American left.

However, in a podcast episode discussing strategies for political change, Kirk stated, “we did not respond with violence,” and affirmed that it was possible to “win this” through nonviolent political and cultural means. A spokesperson for Turning Point USA also denied that Kirk advocated for violence, saying he wanted to “save America with words, persuasion, courage and common sense”.

Despite these denials, critics argue that his rhetoric contributed to a climate conducive to violence, particularly given his influence and close relationship with top political figures. His statements often blurred the line between performative speech and incitement, with some viewing his words as performative acts designed to energize supporters rather than direct calls to violence.

That's all you have to do. I don't feel like tracking down every statement or trying to remember every video but there's probably compilations of all the shitty things he said but it won't matter to you. He minimum flirted with it, regardless. Nothing will matter though. Your mind is made up.

Edited to soften the rough edges: I find that anti-abortion take reprehensible, absolutely vile, it disgusts me on a visceral level. I cannot fundamentally respect someone who believes that. You are also the same guy who doesn't understand a woman's body/pregnancy/fetuses and you were embarrassed badly, as is often the case with anti-abortion people. I'm too lazy to find the thread to post it, so feel free to lie and deny again.

Adios.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I'm not doing the repeating myself merry-go-round and call for =/= condone. That "political rally" was a dog whistle for violence with people calling for the hanging of Mike Pence and you know what transpired. Maybe he expressed regret for doing, I dunno. I suspect not. I know enough about him, regardless.

I typed this

did charlie kirk call for political violence

into my browser. Here's what it came back with:

Charlie Kirk made statements that have been interpreted as endorsing or legitimizing political violence, though he did not explicitly commit violent acts himself. He called for using whips against migrants, stating, “Of course you should be able to use whips against foreigners that are coming into your country. Why is that controversial?”. In August 2025, he advocated for “federalizing” Washington, D.C., saying, “Roll in the tanks, bring in the military”. He also supported invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807 to suppress immigration protests.

Da fuk are you on about?

They didnt go there to call for Pence to be hung. He sent a bus for a rally. People at the rally started calling for Pence to be hung.

Additionally, Kirk promoted a book co-authored by his podcast host that called for the mass murder of liberals and endorsed the idea of a “right-wing revolution”. During a podcast, he discussed emphasizing the part about “how to crush them,” referring to the liberal-left, and expressed a desire to stop being “nice” in politics. He also endorsed Unhumans, a reactionary manifesto that explicitly encourages violence against the American left.

However, in a podcast episode discussing strategies for political change, Kirk stated, “we did not respond with violence,” and affirmed that it was possible to “win this” through nonviolent political and cultural means. A spokesperson for Turning Point USA also denied that Kirk advocated for violence, saying he wanted to “save America with words, persuasion, courage and common sense”.

Congrats to @JackPosobiec and @JoshuaLisec on breaking into the NYT bestseller list! I know for a fact their book outsold many others on the list for the last few weeks but the Times gatekeepers denied it because they don't like Jack's politics. Ultimately they had no choice. The book is a runaway success!Everyone check out "Unhumans" on the histories of communist revolutions and their terrifying parallels to America today.
and your own blurb says:
“save America with words, persuasion, courage and common sense”.

Despite these denials, critics argue that his rhetoric contributed to a climate conducive to violence, particularly given his influence and close relationship with top political figures. His statements often blurred the line between performative speech and incitement, with some viewing his words as performative acts designed to energize supporters rather than direct calls to violence.

That's all you have to do. I don't feel like tracking down every statement or trying to remember every video but there's probably compilations of all the shitty things he said but it won't matter to you. Nothing will. Your mind is made up.

 So his critics told you what he really meant. Got it

If you believe she should have to carry to term you are a reprehensible piece of fuck ridden disgusting filth and I've no reason to continue speaking to you. I don't respect you on a fundamental level.

Your opinion of me means jack all.

No one is forcing 10 yr old to cary babies. If a girl can safely deliver through C-section then she should carry the child and give it up for adoption. That's my personal view on the sanctity of life.

You are also the same guy who doesn't understand a woman's body and you were embarrassed badly, as is often the case with anti-abortion people. I'm too lazy to find the thread to post it, so feel free to lie and deny again.

Adios.

More lies from the left.

You're one of the morons that didnt know a typical cycle lasts 28 days and that day 29 is the first day of the next cycle. Lol

You didnt know that a woman is only fertilie for roughly 72 hours - day 10 to 13. And that if a women gets pregnant then she typically misses her period 16 days after having sex.

Read a biology book or come up out of the basement and ask your mom. Lol

 

[Darkballs]

Then post one.

Already did. You guys dismissed it as either he's just joking, or some other flippant reason. If you guys want to pretend the way he casual dismissed any attempt to address school shootings as "not worth it," as some brilliant legal argument, you are free to do so.

Those of us with an understanding of the english language and are willing to consider the actual context of Kirks words, will tell you he clearly mocks kids getting killed. And considering the criticism I'm getting is from the same crowd that feels quite comfortable accusing all of us of secretly wanting Kirk killed, I'm not bothered in the least by your lots dishonest take on the man's character.

 

[Absolut]

So it's ok to mock someone getting their skull fractured, and then have your supporters cry when people make fun of you getting shot? Interesting morals. Doesn't really work here though since those school kids definitely did die.

Point still stands: You nerds can dish it out, but you just can't take it.

Comedian bylaw 127.34(j) thou shall not mock murder, but thou may mockest attempted murder that doth not result in death.

Fn. OJ is an exception. Mocketh away.

 

[Darkballs]

Comedian bylaw 127.34(j) thou shall not mock murder, but thou may mockest attempted murder that doth not result in death.

Fn. OJ is an exception. Mocketh away.

And has already been posted in this thread, numerous times, has been that none of these posters whining about offensive language had any problem with the Paul Pelosi thread. Nor did they have a problem with Kirk himself having a laugh at that one. When you point this out they either go silent, or make some dumb excuse like it's ok because Pelosi didn't die.

I don't take any of them seriously. At this point, it's only interesting to wonder which posters know their full of shit, and which ones genuinely suffer from a permanent case of victimhood.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Already did. You guys dismissed it as either he's just joking, or some other flippant reason. If you guys want to pretend the way he casual dismissed any attempt to address school shootings as "not worth it," as some brilliant legal argument, you are free to do so.

Those of us with an understanding of the english language and are willing to consider the actual context of Kirks words, will tell you he clearly mocks kids getting killed. And considering the criticism I'm getting is from the same crowd that feels quite comfortable accusing all of us of secretly wanting Kirk killed, I'm not bothered in the least by your lots dishonest take on the man's character.

Where is it at. I'll give it a fair look.

 

[Blayt7hh]

The obvious solution is metal detectors to enter schools. All the schools have them here cause we have gangs. Start putting them in all schools and there won’t be anymore school shootings.

People who can’t come up with anything but gun control are just a waste of oxygen cause it’s not gonna happen. There’s this thing called the constitution

Metal detectors are not a good solution. They come with a lot of negatives for the staff and the school. They also likely will prevent individual shootings, but not do much to deter a Columbine style shooting.

 

[HereticBD]

Metal detectors are not a good solution. They come with a lot of negatives for the staff and the school. They also likely will prevent individual shootings, but not do much to deter a Columbine style shooting.

How so? Are Uzi's somehow not detected by metal detectors?

Of course an area can only be secured so much by traditional means, but "negatives to staff" isn't a reason not to try it(what are those "negatives", BTW?). I mean, in a nation of a billion guns, it's the most viable solution.

 

[Darkballs]

How so? Are Uzi's somehow not detected by metal detectors?

Of course an area can only be secured so much by traditional means, but "negatives to staff" isn't a reason not to try it(what are those "negatives", BTW?). I mean, in a nation of a billion guns, it's the most viable solution.

This is where you being canadian holds you back.

Do you have any understanding of how underfunded American schools are? Especially red states that voted for trump? My home state of Louisiana, totally down for trump, can barely afford lunches for kids, and have some of a poorest literacy rates in the nation. Not to mention that current republican budget had massive cuts to education, I'm not sure how you expect anyone to pay for this.

The complete lack of seriousness in your answer, shows just how little you know about the people you follow like a lemming.

 

[DoctorTaco]

How so? Are Uzi's somehow not detected by metal detectors?

Of course an area can only be secured so much by traditional means, but "negatives to staff" isn't a reason not to try it(what are those "negatives", BTW?). I mean, in a nation of a billion guns, it's the most viable solution.

If someone wants to go shoot up a school with a military style weapon and homemade bombs, what’s a metal detector going to do?

 

[Blayt7hh]

How so? Are Uzi's somehow not detected by metal detectors?

Of course an area can only be secured so much by traditional means, but "negatives to staff" isn't a reason not to try it(what are those "negatives", BTW?). I mean, in a nation of a billion guns, it's the most viable solution.

The problem is that in a Columbine shooting the shooter doesn’t care about being detected… they’ve already resolved to die and take as many with them as they can. In this scenario, metal detectors are creating long wait lines as a whole school tried to file in in the morning and in a twist of irony creates the best possible scenario for the shooter to do the maximum amount of damage. This style of school shooting has happened btw where the shooter just walked right through it blasting.

The negative to staff and students is they’re now going through lines being treated like potential criminals. It creates a very negative atmosphere. They’re now tacking on time to their day to do this. Then of course schools are already criminally underfunded and hemorrhaging quality teachers as it is.


Ask yourself if you personally would have wanted to be treated this way when you were 14. I’m sure you can see the negative then.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Then post one.

K

60,000 estimated civilian deaths in Gaza. Not counting the bodies unrecovered from the rubble. Kirk’s response?

 

[italiamusica]

How so? Are Uzi's somehow not detected by metal detectors?

Of course an area can only be secured so much by traditional means, but "negatives to staff" isn't a reason not to try it(what are those "negatives", BTW?). I mean, in a nation of a billion guns, it's the most viable solution.

Teachers and schools are so underfunded that the people working there barely care about their jobs, no one is going to enforce metal detectors or more "advanced" security measures if no one is going to help out with it, fund it, and give it personnel to work it. Metal water bottles, metal everything, it would constantly be going off unless every student went through airport style scanning, emptying the pockets, every single day, and in big schools that would take hours. School shootings used to never happen and there weren't any metal detectors around.

Also like what was already said, someone coming to kill people isn't going to care about being detected.

 

[italiamusica]

K

60,000 estimated civilian deaths in Gaza. Not counting the bodies unrecovered from the rubble. Kirk’s response?

It's crazy that 1,000 pages into this, people are still defending this guy and his insanely bigoted and hateful views on humans and the world, acting like he is the Saint of all Saints.

 

[DoctorTaco]

It's crazy that 1,000 pages into this, people are still defending this guy and his insanely bigoted and hateful views on humans and the world, acting like he is the Saint of all Saints.

he was a prick who died for what he believed.

 

[KaNesDeath]

It's crazy that 1,000 pages into this, people are still defending this guy and his insanely bigoted and hateful views on humans and the world, acting like he is the Saint of all Saints.

MAGA tried after his death. Most Americans saw Kirk for who he was. Just a online political commentator dealing in clickbait content.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

Just dropping in to check on everyone, I brought waters
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I see we're still comfortably in the "What would you suggest?" cul-de-sac of bait & bad faith.

We always end up here, every time without fail. 80% of the posters in this thread are repeating themselves for the umpteenth time, knowing exactly what everyone else is gonna say..

This is some "time's a flat circle" shit, nothings getting fixed, it's been this way since forever
I think it's just the unfortunate cost of doing business here now.

That said, Happy new year y'all, be safe out there