Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

[kflo]

Well it "technically" isnt mentioned, so it's fine to conclude the teachings of Christianity dont actually condemn it. I guess? Just like child porn on the internet. Jesus never actually mentioned the internet or child porn, so it’s tough to say if his teachings would call it immoral.

Jesus never even mentioned age of consent.

 

[kflo]

I was referring to this stupid attempt to try to imply thay since it isnt specifically mentioned, somehow it can be argued that its not against the teachings. Its a dumb argument that doesnt need to happen because I know you arent stupid.

Besides I answered in the quote you responded to.

Murder = Bad
Baby Murder = Therefore bad.

And embryos?

Yeah, that’s kinda where you get stuck.

You can rage about it all you want but you are still stuck. Even doc @UberHere calls it a clump of cells.

 

[Bob Gray]

Jesus never even mentioned age of consent.

He didn't mention napalm or missiles either. So I guess we cant say whether or not hed be against using them indiscriminately.

 

[kflo]

Reddit atheist bros to the rescue! I had no idea Jesus would be good with abortions.

Ooh the Reddit drop. How effective!

 

[kflo]

He didn't mention napalm or missiles either. So I guess we cant say whether or not hed be against using them indiscriminately.

Well napalm and missiles didn’t exist in his day and I wouldn’t expect him to be able to see the future of course…….

But kids certainly existed back then, no?

 

[Mr Holmes]

Ooh the Reddit drop. How effective!

More effective than your gotchas.

 

[Andy Capp]

Its funny that seemingly non-religious people always bring up the Bible to score points in this forum.

This thread started about a murder - Thou shalt not murder; and quickly devolved into Kirk deserved it and claiming he was a false Christian.

But thanks for reminding Christians of their shortcomings.

Who ITT said he deserved it?

 

[Bob Gray]

Well napalm and missiles didn’t exist in his day and I wouldn’t expect him to be able to see the future of course…….

But kids certainly existed back then, no?

If you read the Bible, you'll soon find out that it doesnt actually mention everything and every concept that ever existed.

 

[UberHere]

And embryos?

Yeah, that’s kinda where you get stuck.

You can rage about it all you want but you are still stuck. Even doc @UberHere calls it a clump of cells.

Honestly, you sound like a child who got busted knowing you did something wrong, then say “but you never said I couldn’t do that!”

 

[kflo]

More effective than your gotchas.

Nah.

I’m asking questions you can’t or don’t want to answer so you instead default to “Reddit hurr durr”.

 

[kflo]

Honestly, you sound like a child who got busted knowing you did something wrong, then say “but you never said I couldn’t do that!”

Actually you are the child. You can’t answer questions so you instead whine and kick and scream to insist you’re right anyway.

 

[kflo]

If you read the Bible, you'll soon find out that it doesnt actually mention everything and every concept that ever existed.

No shit.

Yet you still have concluded aborting an embryo is unequivocally murder according to Jesus despite there being no mention of it or even a direct line to that position.

You all appeal to emotion instead of the actual text because the text doesn’t confirm your position.

 

[UberHere]

Actually you are the child. You can’t answer questions so you instead whine and kick and scream to insist you’re right anyway.

I’ll buy I argue like a child in most ways except logic. Your logic on the other hand is childish, at least in this current discussion. I keep coming back to the WR cause I like the funny insults and childishness.

 

[kflo]

I’ll buy I argue like a child in most ways except logic. Your logic on the other hand is childish, at least in this current discussion. I keep coming back to the WR cause I like the funny insults and childishness.

Except it’s not. I asked you relevant, direct questions that you couldn’t answer. And it made you solely appeal to emotion instead.

You started with “heartbeat = murder” and then immediately had to pivot (after calling me a pussy, lol).

 

[UberHere]

Except it’s not. I asked you relevant, direct questions that you couldn’t answer. And it made you solely appeal to emotion instead.

You started with “heartbeat = murder” and then immediately had to pivot (after calling me a pussy, lol).

You think a God who struck a man dead for wasting his seed masturbating is ok with abortion? It’s been answered and you’re just moving goal posts now.

“Go ahead and kill your babies, but don’t dare masturbate!”

 

[kflo]

You think a God who struck a man dead for wasting his seed masturbating is ok with abortion? It’s been answered and you’re just moving goal posts now.

“Go ahead and kill your babies, but don’t dare masturbate!”

“However, most biblical scholars note this was about Onan’s refusal to fulfill his family duty (levirate marriage), not about the physical act itself.”

Again, it’s you moving goal posts. You answered nothing. You claim the above is the proof that Jesus believed abortion = murder yet your own interpretation of gods view of masturbation is contested.

 

[Bob Gray]

No shit.

Yet you still have concluded aborting an embryo is unequivocally murder according to Jesus despite there being no mention of it or even a direct line to that position.

You all appeal to emotion instead of the actual text because the text doesn’t confirm your position.

I didnt conclude anything. Im pro choice. But the argument that was brought up was christian beliefs.

The church made the conclusion. Not me. The passages they generally use are about God saying stuff about life in the womb. Or personhood. Its been awhile since my christian school years and I dont have the passages off hand.

If youre generally curious, which I don't think you are, you can spend some time researching it, which I dont think you'll do. And even if you did youd just come back with "Well, this is why my interpretation of the book I haven't read abut the religion I dont prescribe to is more accurate than that of the people who read it every day and devote their lives to it"

Like it or not, its the postion of the church and the majority of christian interpretation that life begins in the womb. Youre free to disagree with that notion for whatever reasons you wish. But in a conversation about what christians believe and why, youd probably refer to christian authorities as opposed to your own internal opinion.

 

[UberHere]

“However, most biblical scholars note this was about Onan’s refusal to fulfill his family duty (levirate marriage), not about the physical act itself.”

Again, it’s you moving goal posts. You answered nothing. You claim the above is the proof that Jesus believed abortion = murder yet your own interpretation of gods view of masturbation is contested.

You said it yourself. Failing to fulfill family duty! Are you a retard? Serious fucking question.

So if masturbating is bad how is abortion any better? You’re failing to be fruitful and multiply.

 

[kflo]

You said it yourself. Failing to fulfill family duty! Are you a retard? Serious fucking question.

“Not the act itself”.

You don’t even understand what you’re referencing. Lol. He had a specific obligation he chose not to fulfill.

 

[kflo]

I didnt conclude anything. Im pro choice. But the argument that was brought up was christian beliefs.

The church made the conclusion. Not me. The passages they generally use are about God saying stuff about life in the womb. Or personhood. Its been awhile since my christian school years and I dont have the passages off hand.

If youre generally curious, which I don't think you are, you can spend some time researching it, which I dont think you'll do. And even if you did youd just come back with "Well, this is why my interpretation of the book I haven't read abut the religion I dont prescribe to is more accurate than that of the people who read it every day and devote their lives to it"

Like it or not, it’s the postion of the church and the majority of christian interpretation that life begins in the womb. Youre free to disagree with that notion for whatever reasons you wish. But in a conversation about what christians believe and why, youd probably refer to christian authorities as opposed to your own internal opinion.

The current position of the Catholic Church…..you’re aware it’s changed over time?

lol at pivoting to “life begins in the womb”. Derp.