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Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

A .308 going the length of the deer and not exiting seems very plausible. A 30-06 hitting the soft flesh of the side of the neck and not exiting is crazy. Not impossible, but very suspect. Congrats on not going with some crazy magnum btw. The .308 and it's family including the 7mm-08 and .243 are amazing whitetail rounds.
Yea, I was torn between a 7mm-08 and 308 and then I found a good deal on a cz 557 that I liked. I'm glad I pulled the trigger on it.
 
Yuck

This is how some of our media talking bout it



US politics live: Left-wing media figure Joy Reid floats wild theory about Vice President J.D. Vance​

Left-wing media figure Joy Reid has been panned for floating a bizarre theory about US Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife Usha.

A left-wing media personality, former MSNBC host Joy Reid, has been panned after floating an outlandish conspiracy theory about Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika.

Speaking to the I’ve Had It podcast, Ms Reid suggested Vice President J.D. Vance’s marriage to Second Lady Usha Vance, who is Hindu, could be a problem when he tries to win the 2028 Republican presidential nomination.


She joked that it would be a MAGA “fairytale” if Mr Vance were to ditch his wife for Mrs Kirk. Who, incidentally, has already laughed off the theory.
 
Yuck

This is how some of our media talking bout it
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ack of religion having nothing to

US politics live: Left-wing media figure Joy Reid floats wild theory about Vice President J.D. Vance​

Left-wing media figure Joy Reid has been panned for floating a bizarre theory about US Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife Usha.

A left-wing media personality, former MSNBC host Joy Reid, has been panned after floating an outlandish conspiracy theory about Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika.

Speaking to the I’ve Had It podcast, Ms Reid suggested Vice President J.D. Vance’s marriage to Second Lady Usha Vance, who is Hindu, could be a problem when he tries to win the 2028 Republican presidential nomination.


She joked that it would be a MAGA “fairytale” if Mr Vance were to ditch his wife for Mrs Kirk. Who, incidentally, has already laughed off the theory.
I grew up very very Christian, husband ridiculously Catholic to the point everyone thought he would become a priest. None of the noise got in our way. Neither of us are religious now.
 
I grew up very very Christian, husband ridiculously Catholic to the point everyone thought he would become a priest. None of the noise got in our way. Neither of us are religious now.
IM not religious but i find it extremly distasteful ( the " fairy tale " )
 
Yuck

This is how some of our media talking bout it



US politics live: Left-wing media figure Joy Reid floats wild theory about Vice President J.D. Vance​

Left-wing media figure Joy Reid has been panned for floating a bizarre theory about US Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife Usha.

A left-wing media personality, former MSNBC host Joy Reid, has been panned after floating an outlandish conspiracy theory about Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika.

Speaking to the I’ve Had It podcast, Ms Reid suggested Vice President J.D. Vance’s marriage to Second Lady Usha Vance, who is Hindu, could be a problem when he tries to win the 2028 Republican presidential nomination.


She joked that it would be a MAGA “fairytale” if Mr Vance were to ditch his wife for Mrs Kirk. Who, incidentally, has already laughed off the theory.



wonder if she would be into him/her/they?

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I mean yeah. If you want, watch the video and tell me precisely why that guy's analysis is off and doesn't make sense.

I'm clearly saying the official bullet narrative doesnt make sense. I don't need to come up with my own theories on what happened. I'll just wait for more info to come out and reassess as it comes.
More info just did come out and you're refusing to believe it though. This begs the question, how exactly could evidence be presented to you that would make sense to you?

I'll gladly take that information in its entirety and make a decision then.
I'm a bit skeptical that you will.

Tethered to reality is the superhero neck of Charlie Kirk and no exit wound.

Like I said, why rush to conclusions. I know it bothers you so much but I'll wait for more info to come out. In the grand scheme of things, this has 0 effect on my life and yours, relax and let's wait for the trial (which hopefully will be televised).
It has enough effect that you posted a lot in this thread questioning the official narrative many times and dropping random Youtube vids pushing conspiracies. As soon as verified information comes out, now you don't care and want to wait for the trial? That doesn't seem like something who was actually sincere about what they've been saying in this thread would say. The projection that I'm "bothered" by this conversation and you saying you're being "attacked" is just further proof of the lack of sincerity.
 
Yuck

This is how some of our media talking bout it



US politics live: Left-wing media figure Joy Reid floats wild theory about Vice President J.D. Vance​

Left-wing media figure Joy Reid has been panned for floating a bizarre theory about US Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife Usha.

A left-wing media personality, former MSNBC host Joy Reid, has been panned after floating an outlandish conspiracy theory about Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika.

Speaking to the I’ve Had It podcast, Ms Reid suggested Vice President J.D. Vance’s marriage to Second Lady Usha Vance, who is Hindu, could be a problem when he tries to win the 2028 Republican presidential nomination.


She joked that it would be a MAGA “fairytale” if Mr Vance were to ditch his wife for Mrs Kirk. Who, incidentally, has already laughed off the theory.
Joy Reid is just an all around horrible person. Right after Kirk's death, some kid posted a video of himself on guitar singing a song about how Kirk was a bad person. Reid posted a video of her watching that kid's video and getting emotional while drinking wine. Not surprised this racist bitch wants to join the chorus of people dunking on Kirk's wife.
 
Joy Reid is just an all around horrible person. Right after Kirk's death, some kid posted a video of himself on guitar singing a song about how Kirk was a bad person. Reid posted a video of her watching that kid's video and getting emotional while drinking wine. Not surprised this racist bitch wants to join the chorus of people dunking on Kirk's wife.


Yeah she's a shameless, putrid woman.
 
More info just did come out and you're refusing to believe it though. This begs the question, how exactly could evidence be presented to you that would make sense to you?

Like literally everyone in that same podcast you linked. A dude on a podcast is not the same as evidence such as a coroner's report or evidence presented in a trial. You're being disingenuous by this comparison. Just because the guy was there and he was head of security doesn't make him a credible character.

It has enough effect that you posted a lot in this thread questioning the official narrative many times and dropping random Youtube vids pushing conspiracies. As soon as verified information comes out, now you don't care and want to wait for the trial?

Again. Verified information corroborated by who exactly? A guy on a podcast. The head of security who takes no accountability for his failures? Why would I take him serious.

That doesn't seem like something who was actually sincere about what they've been saying in this thread would say. The projection that I'm "bothered" by this conversation and you saying you're being "attacked" is just further proof of the lack of sincerity.

It has 0 effect but clearly you're bothered by me posting youtube videos. Furthermore, I just pointed out several times how you're being disingenuous, judgemental, and quite frankly, butthurt that I wont take this podcast you linked as "verified info".

You say I've made up my mind

You're just going to ignore this part where I asked, did I?
 
Crazy a caliber that big could be deflected off of a neck bone

I am baffled and have shot a lot of .30-06, but I am not an expert. I remain skeptical until I see the whole case laid out. I still want to see that roof video 2 minutes prior to the guy running across it and jumping down. We should see the alleged assassin actually taking the shot. That would do a lot to shut everyone up... I wonder why they are withholding it?
 
I haven't seen anybody claim it was deflected. It fragmented on impact by design and the pieces lodged on the bone.
Kirk's head of security was on the Shawn Ryan show and confirmed there was no exit wound. First time I'm hearing confirmation of this from someone who actually is in the know. This guy him discussing it:
 
Like literally everyone in that same podcast you linked. A dude on a podcast is not the same as evidence such as a coroner's report or evidence presented in a trial. You're being disingenuous by this comparison. Just because the guy was there and he was head of security doesn't make him a credible character.
Uh, yeah it actually does. Certainly more than the Youtube experts you've posted who post theories meant to drive in clicks, not factual analysis.

Again. Verified information corroborated by who exactly? A guy on a podcast. The head of security who takes no accountability for his failures? Why would I take him serious.
What corroborations do you need to consider information legitimate?

It has 0 effect but clearly you're bothered by me posting youtube videos. Furthermore, I just pointed out several times how you're being disingenuous, judgemental, and quite frankly, butthurt that I wont take this podcast you linked as "verified info".
Even if you choose not to take it as "verified info", you certainly don't get to lend credence to random Youtube conspiracy theorists as a sourced of info at the same time.

You're just going to ignore this part where I asked, did I?

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I dont trust YouTube randos either to make a definitive, conclusive stance either way. Btw I bet you arent able to actually refute his points therefore you cast him away as another rando crackpot. That's fine though, you've already made up your mind I guess.
 
Uh, yeah it actually does. Certainly more than the Youtube experts you've posted who post theories meant to drive in clicks, not factual analysis.


What corroborations do you need to consider information legitimate?


Even if you choose not to take it as "verified info", you certainly don't get to lend credence to random Youtube conspiracy theorists as a sourced of info at the same time.



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Was I wrong? You have made up your mind about the specific youtube video I posted for you to refute, which you haven't yet. If you actually hadn't made up your mind yet, you might have actually given it a shot and watched it even for a few minutes and refuted one point about his analysis.

I watched your video. And so has everyone else who watched it and made similar comments to mine. We're all just batshit crazy for not taking this head of security's word 100% as legit as we might some evidence that actually presents itself in a trial, right? Since according to your logic it may as well be the same things lol.

It's a podcast dude. Why would I take his word as gospel because he was there and he was in charge (and failed spectacularly). He could still lie, be misinformed, cover his ass, deflect, etc.

At least I watched it to have an opinion, you can say it's a dumb opinion that's cool.

I think we're done here, no point in going back and forth when I gave your link a chance and you're just going to continue trashing my kooky youtube links lol
 
You cant force people to pray.
Here lies the last post of payton

He/she was a super far left basement keyboarder that barely lasted a year and a half on this board. Seeing as her last few posts were in the final Charlie Kirk thread, it's obvious how she got taken out. Her last post proves that she doesn't pray. Which is ironic because none of us prayed for her in her demise either.

See ya down the road missy.

RIP Payton.
Jul 18 2024 - Feb 6 2025
 
Here lies the last post of payton

He/she was a super far left basement keyboarder that barely lasted a year and a half on this board. Seeing as her last few posts were in the final Charlie Kirk thread, it's obvious how she got taken out. Her last post proves that she doesn't pray. Which is ironic because none of us prayed for her in her demise either.

See ya down the road missy.

RIP Payton.
Jul 18 2024 - Feb 6 2025

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Yea, I was torn between a 7mm-08 and 308 and then I found a good deal on a cz 557 that I liked. I'm glad I pulled the trigger on it.
My 7mm-08 is an old Mauser that my father built. The trigger is a two stage. Squeeze then feel it....then pull. The first deer I killed came from my right side I was sitting at the base of a tree. I couldn't shoot right handed so I flipped lefty. He looked at me and stomped. Shot him straight in the breast plate. Clean kill.
 
Uh, yeah it actually does.

Um, no it actually doesn't. He could—and I know this comes as a massive shock to you—be full of shit. That's why things like autopsies and forensics investigations are so important.

Surely both were done, yes?

Anywho! Here's a video of a 30-06 blowing clean through cow neck vertebrae, blowing clean through a cow femur, blowing clean through a cow femur with a huge chunk of meat in front of it, blowing clean through a 1/2" steel plate, blowing clean through a 3/4" steel plate, and almost making it through a 1" steel plate.

 
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