Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

[StewDogg11]

It is like my golf course rule. Every chick goes up 2 points on the 10 scale on the golf course.

That’s probably because you play goat track munis where actual attractive women don’t play.

 

[44nutman]

That’s probably because you play goat track munis where actual attractive women don’t play.

Yeah but the Goats are hot.
Played 2 rounds at Oakmont, which is probably the best course I have played. After playing it, Johnny Miller shooting a 63 with 1973 golf equipment is a fucking bonkers score. I need to find that round on Youtube instead of reading about it, problem is at that time, I dont think TV televised every hole.

 

[Seano]

That’s probably because you play goat track munis where actual attractive women don’t play.

Its over @44nutman . Surrender.

 

[Confucamus]

Fresh out the oven

"Official story is so unbelievable it has to be insulting"

Prove his evidence wrong

Kirk's head of security was on the Shawn Ryan show and confirmed there was no exit wound. First time I'm hearing confirmation of this from someone who actually is in the know. This guy was first to get to Kirk and put his fingers in the neck wound in an attempt to stop the bleeding. According to him, the bullet entered Kirk's neck, deflected off his spine, and fragmented downward into his body.

Here's him discussing it:


Whole interview is here, but it's very long.


@BudKing8806 I know you were asking about this a lot too.

 

[Loiosh]

Like I've said before, keep all this in mind whenever you see these lowlifes pretending to have a moral center in any other thread.

This is a perfect illustration of the only thing Charlie Kirk has ever been or will ever be to you:

A political lever. A blunt instrument.

Were you ever human?

 

[HereticBD]

This is a perfect illustration of the only thing Charlie Kirk has ever been or will ever be to you:

No, it's a perfect illustration of the Left's hypocrisy, which has gotten you annoyed to the point that you question someone's humanity over it.

Sanctimonious dork.

 

[MrShady]

Kirk's head of security was on the Shawn Ryan show and confirmed there was no exit wound. First time I'm hearing confirmation of this from someone who actually is in the know. This guy was first to get to Kirk and put his fingers in the neck wound in an attempt to stop the bleeding. According to him, the bullet entered Kirk's neck, deflected off his spine, and fragmented downward into his body.

Here's him discussing it:


Whole interview is here, but it's very long.


@BudKing8806 I know you were asking about this a lot too.

Am I allowed to say I don't trust this guy and he's not someone I would use as a credible source for conclusive answers.

Or does that make me a conspiratard

No exit wound on a 30-06 is still nuts imo.

 

[Volador]

Or does that make me a conspiratard

Yes, it absolutely does.

 

[MrShady]

Yes, it absolutely does.

So you watched this podcast and this dude is 100% credible to you? Cus he was there and he was head of security, that makes him a source for conclusive answers eh?

Perfect. And you can also believe the official narrative that epstein killed himself or the official narrative that epstein and maxwell didnt traffic any girls to third party individuals.

 

[Confucamus]

So you watched this podcast and this dude is 100% credible to you? Cus he was there and he was head of security, that makes him a source for conclusive answers eh?

Yeah, actually it does. If you doubt his story, you'd better have a good reason why. You've been dropping random conspiracy theory Youtube vids in here, so I'm hoping you can explain why you trust Youtube randos over someone who was there and gave aid to Kirk after he was shot. "Just because" is not going to be a sufficient answer either.

 

[Seano]

This is a perfect illustration of the only thing Charlie Kirk has ever been or will ever be to you:

A political lever. A blunt instrument.

Were you ever human?

Just because you see this in yourself doesn't mean its true of everyone else.

 

[MrShady]

Yeah, actually it does. If you doubt his story, you'd better have a good reason why. You've been dropping random conspiracy theory Youtube vids in here, so I'm hoping you can explain why you trust Youtube randos over someone who was there and gave aid to Kirk after he was shot. "Just because" is not going to be a sufficient answer either.

I dont trust YouTube randos either to make a definitive, conclusive stance either way. Btw I bet you arent able to actually refute his points therefore you cast him away as another rando crackpot. That's fine though, you've already made up your mind I guess.

Sorry if it upsets you but his answer of no exit wound from a 30 06 is still hard to grasp. While it may be plausible, that's one heck of a magic bullet if you ask me.

Not to mention this dude's failure was of epic proportions (considering his principle died) and all throughout the podcast hes talking about being proud of how his team and he operated....this guy is a fucking moron. Zero accountability, everything was the fault of other parties. Head of security ladies and gentlemen.

So many more questions that the interviewer had zero pushback on. No drones. No "trust but verify" as head of security he just trusts the text of the police saying they got the roof covered. What are we doing here folks.

 

[BudKing8806]

Kirk's head of security was on the Shawn Ryan show and confirmed there was no exit wound. First time I'm hearing confirmation of this from someone who actually is in the know. This guy was first to get to Kirk and put his fingers in the neck wound in an attempt to stop the bleeding. According to him, the bullet entered Kirk's neck, deflected off his spine, and fragmented downward into his body.

Here's him discussing it:


Whole interview is here, but it's very long.


@BudKing8806 I know you were asking about this a lot too.

Yea, I still have a hard time believing it wouldn't have caused an exit on a human neck. However, for the first time in a couple of decades, I shot a deer with my new .308 last week and it didn't completely exit. The bullet was lodged just beneath the skin on a hind quarter. Now, with that said, the shot I made wasn't perfect so it entered on the front shoulder(it hit the shoulder blade) and then deflected around inside after turning that shoulder into a mixture of bone and meat jelly. So it traveled a good 2 feet or so inside the deer before it stopped at the hind quarter and that's after dropping most of its energy when it shattered the bone. I also take into consideration that the 308 isn't as powerful as a .30-06. I've still yet to have that caliber not create an exit wound.

Anyway, I'm aware my story doesn't prove anything, just thought I'd share. I'm not that heavily invested in Kirk's assassination so I haven't really been following any of the latest news on the case. It would be interesting to see an autopsy at some point. Unless new info is presented, I'm just taking it as were told and that it was a .30-06 that didn't exit, even though it doesn't really line up with my personal experiences. I appreciate you sharing the info.

 

[Confucamus]

I dont trust YouTube randos either to make a definitive, conclusive stance either way. Btw I bet you arent able to actually refute his points therefore you cast him away as another rando crackpot. That's fine though, you've already made up your mind I guess.

You trust them enough to post them here because you believe they have merit. They don't have anywhere near the credibility as the actual guys working Kirk's security detail and were standing right next to him when he was shot.

Sorry if it upsets you but his answer of no exit wound from a 30 06 is still hard to grasp. While it may be plausible, that's one heck of a magic bullet if you ask me.

It doesn't upset me. It doesn't matter what you find hard to believe. It's what happened. Life isn't a movie where everything is predictable.

Not to mention this dude's failure was of epic proportions (considering his principle died) and all throughout the podcast hes talking about being proud of how his team and he operated....this guy is a fucking moron. Zero accountability, everything was the fault of other parties. Head of security ladies and gentlemen.

So many more questions that the interviewer had zero pushback on. No drones. No "trust but verify" as head of security he just trusts the text of the police saying they got the roof covered. What are we doing here folks.

I don't think you really understand how difficult and prohibitively expensive it can be for security to cover EVERY possible scenario. They do their best, but even a lone sniper can get through Presidential level protection as we've seen. Kirk had credible death threats which resulted in heavy security. He spoke at hundreds of college campuses throughout the years. The cost would be astronomical to have secret service level protection at every event. That's pretty shitty that you want to dunk on this guy for Kirk dying on his watch. He probably carries that guilt already.

 

[MrShady]

You trust them enough to post them here because you believe they have merit. They don't have anywhere near the credibility as the actual guys working Kirk's security detail and were standing right next to him when he was shot.

I post them because I want someone to refute it so I can say "well yeah that makes sense thanks bro". If you cant refute it and just solely trash it because "it's a youtube video" then that's on you

It doesn't upset me. It doesn't matter what you find hard to believe. It's what happened. Life isn't a movie where everything is predictable.

Yeah I think you'd find a lot of people that would be hard pressed to believe the 30-06 and no exit wound official narrative. Surely there's some space between "sorry this official charlie kirk narrative is not lining up" and "yeah I believe in the flat earth and lizards" . Ie. You can believe the official Thomas Crooks narrative. A lot of people don't and are still waiting for transparency there.

I don't think you really understand how difficult and prohibitively expensive it can be for security to cover EVERY possible scenario. They do their best, but even a lone sniper can get through Presidential level protection as we've seen. Kirk had credible death threats which resulted in heavy security. He spoke at hundreds of college campuses throughout the years. The cost would be astronomical to have secret service level protection at every event. That's pretty shitty that you want to dunk on this guy for Kirk dying on his watch. He probably carries that guilt already.

Good job making excuses for the head of security. Have you seen the entire podcast? Not once did he own up to his failures, as he should have. You know what he did do though? Blame literally everyone except himself, as head of security.

Thanks for the link. I watched it in its entirety and unfortunately nothings changed for me, hes not credible in my eyes just because he was there.

 

[Confucamus]

I post them because I want someone to refute it so I can say "well yeah that makes sense thanks bro". If you cant refute it and just solely trash it because "it's a youtube video" then that's on you

So how exactly do you expect it to be refuted? You want random people on Sherdog to refute it instead of listening to someone who was actually there and took Kirk to the hospital?

Yeah I think you'd find a lot of people that would be hard pressed to believe the 30-06 and no exit wound official narrative. Surely there's some space between "sorry this official charlie kirk narrative is not lining up" and "yeah I believe in the flat earth and lizards" . Ie. You can believe the official Thomas Crooks narrative. A lot of people don't and are still waiting for transparency there.

So what exactly are you saying? That it was a different type of bullet? That it wasn't a bullet at all? You've been pursuing the issue of the bullet pretty heavily so you can't really skate with the "I'm just asking questions, bro" narrative. Tell us how YOU are able to refute the official story.

Good job making excuses for the head of security. Have you seen the entire podcast? Not once did he own up to his failures, as he should have. You know what he did do though? Blame literally everyone except himself, as head of security.

Thanks for the link. I watched it in its entirety and unfortunately nothings changed for me, hes not credible in my eyes just because he was there.

I don't need to make excuses for Kirk's head of security for people who have unrealistic expectations when it comes to executive protection. He's more credible than you or anybody else whose opinion you would try bringing into the conversation. There's not really an argument there. You say I've made up my mind, but you are the one refusing to believe any of the people actually in the know. Are you not going to believe the Coroner's report when that is released either? Will you not believe any of the evidence that is presented at the murderer's trial either? I don't mind skepticism of official stories, so long as they are tethered in reality. In this case, yours are not.

 

[MrShady]

So how exactly do you expect it to be refuted? You want random people on Sherdog to refute it instead of listening to someone who was actually there and took Kirk to the hospital?

I mean yeah. If you want, watch the video and tell me precisely why that guy's analysis is off and doesn't make sense.

So what exactly are you saying? That it was a different type of bullet? That it wasn't a bullet at all? You've been pursuing the issue of the bullet pretty heavily so you can't really skate with the "I'm just asking questions, bro" narrative. Tell us how YOU are able to refute the official story.

I'm clearly saying the official bullet narrative doesnt make sense. I don't need to come up with my own theories on what happened. I'll just wait for more info to come out and reassess as it comes.

I don't need to make excuses for Kirk's head of security for people who have unrealistic expectations when it comes to executive protection. He's more credible than you or anybody else whose opinion you would try bringing into the conversation. There's not really an argument there.

Not really. Not every head of security will 100% keep their principle alive. But if a head of security doesn't take accountability for their mistakes and their failures, it's hard to take him serious. He actually said "I'm proud of how my team operated". Lol.

You say I've made up my mind,

Did I?

but you are the one refusing to believe any of the people actually in the know. Are you not going to believe the Coroner's report when that is released either? Will you not believe any of the evidence that is presented at the murderer's trial either?

I'll gladly take that information in its entirety and make a decision then.

I don't mind skepticism of official stories, so long as they are tethered in reality. In this case, yours are not.

Tethered to reality is the superhero neck of Charlie Kirk and no exit wound.

Like I said, why rush to conclusions. I know it bothers you so much but I'll wait for more info to come out. In the grand scheme of things, this has 0 effect on my life and yours, relax and let's wait for the trial (which hopefully will be televised).

 

[MrShady]

What I find amusing is the podcast you linked, literally every comment is being critical toward this guy, in some way or another, or the interviewer on not pushing back on some answers given....yet you're attacking me because I didn't like this guy's responses and his lack of accountability on the matter. Yeah he was there, so what. Obviously he's going to have a huge bias in what he's allowed to say and what he shouldn't say, as it's still an active and pending investigation and trial.

I'm sure every comment on youtube is just bots and not tethered to reality lol

 

[Crazy Source]

Yea, I still have a hard time believing it wouldn't have caused an exit on a human neck. However, for the first time in a couple of decades, I shot a deer with my new .308 last week and it didn't completely exit. The bullet was lodged just beneath the skin on a hind quarter. Now, with that said, the shot I made wasn't perfect so it entered on the front shoulder(it hit the shoulder blade) and then deflected around inside after turning that shoulder into a mixture of bone and meat jelly. So it traveled a good 2 feet or so inside the deer before it stopped at the hind quarter and that's after dropping most of its energy when it shattered the bone. I also take into consideration that the 308 isn't as powerful as a .30-06. I've still yet to have that caliber not create an exit wound.

Anyway, I'm aware my story doesn't prove anything, just thought I'd share. I'm not that heavily invested in Kirk's assassination so I haven't really been following any of the latest news on the case. It would be interesting to see an autopsy at some point. Unless new info is presented, I'm just taking it as were told and that it was a .30-06 that didn't exit, even though it doesn't really line up with my personal experiences. I appreciate you sharing the info.

A .308 going the length of the deer and not exiting seems very plausible. A 30-06 hitting the soft flesh of the side of the neck and not exiting is crazy. Not impossible, but very suspect. Congrats on not going with some crazy magnum btw. The .308 and it's family including the 7mm-08 and .243 are amazing whitetail rounds.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Kirk's head of security was on the Shawn Ryan show and confirmed there was no exit wound. First time I'm hearing confirmation of this from someone who actually is in the know. This guy was first to get to Kirk and put his fingers in the neck wound in an attempt to stop the bleeding. According to him, the bullet entered Kirk's neck, deflected off his spine, and fragmented downward into his body.

Here's him discussing it:


Whole interview is here, but it's very long.


@BudKing8806 I know you were asking about this a lot too.

Crazy a caliber that big could be deflected off of a neck bone