Social Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed

[D 1 Wrestler]

I’ll reiterate this since everyone seems to love bringing up the gun comments. How do you feel about automobiles? They kill 40,000 - 50,000 people a year. Necessary evil?

What are automobiles designed to do? What are guns designed to do? How many automobile deaths are accidents vs intentional and then same for guns? Silly argument

 

[White Whale]

He has posted pretty solid things and reached out to Charlie Kirk's wife.

 

[StewDogg11]

no, car collision deaths aren't a necessary evil, which is why heavy regulation on car safety has reduced the number of deaths. you need to register a car, you need a licence to operate it, it needs to be built according to safety regulations, and there's lots of laws limiting your use of cars.

there are literally zero parallels with guns, whose sole purpose is to injure and kill.

as for dealing with illegal guns, oddly the issue doesn't exist in countries where you can't buy a shotgun in the same store you buy your beer. so i don't know, maybe look abroad.

There’s lots of laws and regulations aimed to prevent people from killing people with guns too like in Illinois but it doesn’t seem to help much.

Not being reduced that much, trending up actually:

Motor vehicle fatality rate in U.S. by year - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[KnightTemplar]

FBI to hold a press conference shortly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15085851/Charlie-Kirk-shot-uvu-shooting-Utah-campus-1-1.html

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Also not a christian.

He was. I believe you're likely mixing up details. He was Christian and even gave sermons in Africa.

 

[Portland8242]

I usually stay out of debates like this but you literally have far leftists proclaiming directly who should live and die based on political opinions.

Gosh I wonder what the roots of every tyrannical dictatorship are?

 

[Confucamus]

I don't recall anything but distaste at that particular event. I honestly don't recall one conservative saying it was justified or subject of mockery.

It's just whataboutism. The only things they know about Kirk and what he's said is what Reddit tells them. There are hundreds of hours of Kirk explaining his views that they are either too lazy to look into, or just flat out don't care.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Not everything is about you specifically. Did I call you out or tag you? Did I mention this forum in particular?

What does that have to do with you not being able to name one person in here celebrating his death. A strawman you literally created to divide when decent folks should be uniting on 2 common sense humane points.
- This type of violence is not acceptable in a free first world country towards somebody like Kirk
- Its time to turn down the temperature & rhetoric from social media influencers and pundits in a country with a mental health crisis

Now you ignore his own quote that 100% spoke on this topic to throw stones at the left fishing for them to say what Charlie already said himself.

 

[OldFashion]

^ This is the viewpoint of a majority of Republicans currently, without having a single clue on who the shooter is BTW. This is resentment they have apparently held in forever and can't seem to hold it in anymore, and want the Country plunged into civil war at all cost it seems.

Those Gun-Toting lunatics have been waiting for a moment like this. They can't wait to mobilize their red neck militias and go hunting themselves some libtards

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I don't recall anything but distaste at that particular event. I honestly don't recall one conservative saying it was justified or subject of mockery.

There were a lot that did...unsurprisingly, people feel justified when it's not their own people.

 

[Seano]

charlie kirk celebrated the fucking political attack on the 80 year old.

so yeah, going from "the right doesn't mock political attacks" to "he's still walking around" is in fact a moved goal post. congrats.

eh, nice try.

I'll be honest and say I don't really remember this all that well but I seem to recall pretty much everyone asking what was up with that situation and not a lot of answers coming out.

 

[randomg1t]

This issue with the guns is that once you give up your constitutional right to carry, your other rights will fall like dominoes. In a few years, we'll end up like England, with literal meme police showing up at your door.

yup. i mean all over europe and australia you have masked government agents driving up in unmarked vehicles, arresting people who don't have their papers on them and driving them to undisclosed locations.

if only they had the 2nd amendment, that could never happen there.

 

[AZ103]

Wow ... Room temperature IQ thinking here.

Charlie Kirk, like all podcasters and political commentators, talk for dozens of hours on camera every month about dozens of subjects including the complicated Israel/Hamas conflict.

Only gullible fools who already think Jews rule the world would believe this is a convincing argument that Jews had him assassinated.

This is the same type of bullshit like 'Trump's attempted assassin's were registered Republican!' as a means to deflect from an obvious truth.

'Charlie was assassinated by Jews although he supported Israel he said some bad things about him!'

Yeah? And Matt Walsh said we should cancel all foreign aid, including to Israel. You got those clips ready for when he gets assassinated in front of his wife and six kids?

The history of zionism is littered with assasinations of anyone who got in there way. I wouldnt dismiss it. I wouldnt claim it strongly either. But i wouldnt dismiss anything until we have some information.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Speaking of rolling stone... because we talk about them far more than they deserve to... Just look at the headline and photo posted for Charlie's obituary.

Charlie Kirk, Right-Wing Activist and Trump Ally, Dead at 31

Charlie Kirk, the right-wing activist and Turning Point USA founder, was a key Trump ally and influencer in the MAGA movement.

www.rollingstone.com

Marxist Journalists love dancing on the dead bodies of their enemies while their families are still weeping.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Live coverage of the FBI press conference.

Charlie Kirk's widow gives tearful address after shooting: 'I will never let your legacy die'

Erika Kirk thanks first responders and President Donald Trump for his support, after her husband's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Cajun]

no, car collision deaths aren't a necessary evil, which is why heavy regulation on car safety has reduced the number of deaths. you need to register a car, you need a licence to operate it, it needs to be built according to safety regulations, and there's lots of laws limiting your use of cars.

there are literally zero parallels with guns, whose sole purpose is to injure and kill.

as for dealing with illegal guns, oddly the issue doesn't exist in countries where you can't buy a shotgun in the same store you buy your beer. so i don't know, maybe look abroad.

Guns have manufacturing standards and checks now too no? Though its not about guns vs cars. Of course cars are a necessary hazard unless we go back to horses and trains. Charlie was at heart a constitutionalist. There are peeps on the left that are as well that hold the constitution an integral part of this country. Obviously the importance of our constitution is evident and there are many many Americans that have died to ensure it remains a part of us and our freedoms intact. We can talk about the slippery slopes of gun control laws which is the entire fear for most. But there are people on the left and the right that believe in the 2nd amendment.

 

[GtehMVP]

And that's a problem.

If you met me in the real world you'd probably never know my political leaning unless you asked me, and even then I'd keep most of my opinions to myself. I know there is very little changing hearts and minds and that even trying can cause conflict where none is necessary. People have their core beliefs and are entitled to express them quietly and privately at the ballot box. It has never been for me to meddle with that.

There are conservatives here I've really liked for years on a personal level, but the five years I've spent here in the War Room has completely destroyed that in both directions. There are posters who really liked me for more than a decade based on my television threads in the Mayberry who now see me as less than a person because of my progressive beliefs.

Not sure what the problem is.

We're all anonymous, so we're going to conjure an image of each other.

You and I have very different political beliefs, but I've never seen you advocate for senseless violence, or be pleased/indifferent when it happens to someone who doesn't share your views. Those douchebags in the video I quoted look near exactly how I imagine the far leftists in here would. I wouldn't put you anywhere near that camp.

In fact, I still just picture you as Lester, fiddling with some dollhouse miniatures lol. Shouldn't have changed your av

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The history of zionism is littered with assasinations of anyone who got in there way. I wouldnt dismiss it. I wouldnt claim it strongly either. But i wouldnt dismiss anything until we have some information.

"Someone important was assassinated! It must have been the Jews!"

How many times has that been said of 'Zion history?'

 

[Seano]

What does that have to do with you not being able to name one person in here celebrating his death. A strawman you literally created to divide when decent folks should be uniting on 2 common sense humane points.
- This type of violence is not acceptable in a free first world country towards somebody like Kirk
- Its time to turn down the temperature & rhetoric from social media influencers and pundits in a country with a mental health crisis

Now you ignore his own quote that 100% spoke on this topic to throw stones at the left fishing for them to say what Charlie already said himself.

Because you mentioned this forum specifically. You literally said "who in here".

You're really trying to tell me you haven't seen people finding joy in what happened to Kirk? You'd have to be trying not to see it.

 

[Cajun]

He was. I believe you're likely mixing up details. He was Christian and even gave sermons in Africa.

They're also people that go to church on Sunday that cheat on their wives or beat their wives come Monday. There are KKK/radical black nationalist members that attend church. Even some pastors who sleep with their parishioners. Christianity is just a name if you are not living it and it's meaningless in your life.