Charles Oliveira vs. Arman Tsarukyan - Who wins if they fought?

[mjfan23]

Charles. He aint going to be looking at the damn floor with his guard open like Beneil was when he was getting kneed. Many fighters have knocked out Beneil in the first round, Charles included. I still remember Gamrot of all people tagging Arman in the boxing.

Do you also remember Charles getting subbed Multiple times by strikers?

 

[Rektkid]

I think Arman.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

I think Arman wins for sure

 

[nostradumbass]

I'd pick Charles. Better finisher, better reach. Wouldn't be surprised if Arman won though.

 

[aogiri]

Do you also remember Charles getting subbed Multiple times by strikers?

Apart from Islam he hasn't been subbed in over five years. Islam was able to scramble Charles brains before subbing him because his counter striking is elite. Islam is out striking Volk, not struggling in the boxing with Gamrot and Joaquim Silva. How will Arman deal with Charles in his face? Because you know Charles will be pressuring him from the get go and from what I've seen Arman is way sloppier in the boxing than Islam.

 

[JKS]

Charles finishes him.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

And so the hype begins.

I'll go with Charles but would not be surprised if he got caught - he fights aggressive and to win via stoppage as opposed to playing it safe and going for points and a decision.

It puts in him danger but he has also shown that he has the fire power to put people away, ultra durable people to boot (justin, dustin, chandler).

Arman should fight that French guy Saint Denis next to weed out the next up and comer.

 

[flektarn]

Oliveira.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

It was good seeing you and Luthien at my $600 million mansion today watching the fights!
One of our neighbours called the police to file a complaint though because they could hear you picking up and slamming the 3000lb weights while deadlifting. Its fine though i told him it won't happen again

Hope you enjoyed our finest Italian steak with golden encrusted popcorn

It was amazing!!! the steak and popcorn were delicious.

I admit that I can't ever go back to watching fights at my house or how the poor unfortunates watch. At your mansion the fights are different.

My favorite part of the night was when Anthony Perosh and Elvis Sinosic came over (during the Clay Guida fight).. and it was funny when they was saying that Brazilian dude was doing the guillotine choke wrong, and then you asked them to put it on you, and they did and you just picked them up easily and slammed them, both were out cold. I was worried that could happen because of how strong you are.. those MMA fighters are not very strong physically, they just have good endurance and heart and will, but not a lot of strength on the bones unfortunately.

 

[mjfan23]

Apart from Islam he hasn't been subbed in over five years. Islam was able to scramble Charles brains before subbing him because his counter striking is elite. Islam is out striking Volk, not struggling in the boxing with Gamrot and Joaquim Silva. How will Arman deal with Charles in his face? Because you know Charles will be pressuring him from the get go and from what I've seen Arman is way sloppier in the boxing than Islam.

This fight might look a lot like Charles vs Islam.

Arman has superior wrestling and heavy hands. You can’t say a young Arman getting tagged here and there without acknowledging a young Charles was getting subbed by the lamas and pettis types. While all you can point to for Arman are competitive defeats, Charles has been spanked and finished way too many times.

Would I favor Charles? Yes, but their past performances especially the nights they looked a bit off don’t factor into it much, what factors more heavily in my opinion: is them them today, the momentum they carry at the moment and how Charles is more diverse fighter.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

It was amazing!!! the steak and popcorn were delicious.

I admit that I can't ever go back to watching fights at my house or how the poor unfortunates watch. At your mansion the fights are different.

My favorite part of the night was when Anthony Perosh and Elvis Sinosic came over (during the Clay Guida fight).. and it was funny when they was saying that Brazilian dude was doing the guillotine choke wrong, and then you asked them to put it on you, and they did and you just picked them up easily and slammed them, both were out cold. I was worried that could happen because of how strong you are.. those MMA fighters are not very strong physically, they just have good endurance and heart and will, but not a lot of strength on the bones unfortunately.

Hahahah that was a great moment indeed
My personal favorite moment was when we brought in Jordan Burroughs to hang out with and so he could teach us his Freestyle wrestling techniques, and when he tried to shoot for a double takedown, you accidentally kneed him across and he flew across the room, shattering my $150 million Leonardo Da Vinci painting (only 3 in the world). That tiny manlet stood no chance

 

[Travis Alexander]

Oliveira finishes him in a JBG offering.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

A 22 year old Arman took Makhachev the distance.

A prime Oliveira folded and quit to Makhachev in 1.3 rounds.

I think a prime Arman steamrolls a (now-fading) Charles.

 

[svmr_db]

Charles finishes him.

Arman: Never finished in the UFC
Charles: Finished 10 times in the UFC

Arman: Super competitive with Islam in his UFC debut at 22 years old
Charles: Not competitive with Islam 10+ years into his UFC run

But sure, Charles finishes Arman no doubt lol.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Been saying for years Arman is the next big thing. For some reason people thinking he lost to Gamrot in a decision most people thought was wrong was justification to say he' just a middle of the road guy.

He is young and thus all the fights before were pre-prime...he probably will beat Charles sooner than later just based on that.

 

[Marko Polo]

Arman. He is the truth. He's also gonna beat Islam.

And the one to finally break the 3 title defense record in 155 championship reign.

Yeah I can see him beating Islam. He’s too robotic. It’s like he’s braindead

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

The votes are very close. Nice.

 

[svmr_db]

Charles. He aint going to be looking at the damn floor with his guard open like Beneil was when he was getting kneed. Many fighters have knocked out Beneil in the first round, Charles included. I still remember Gamrot of all people tagging Arman in the boxing.

It's certainly amusing how people leaning Charles point to "tagged by Gamrot" or "wobbled by Silva" for their case & ignore the 40 times we've seen Charles in trouble over the years lol.

 

[aogiri]

It's certainly amusing how people leaning Charles point to "tagged by Gamrot" or "wobbled by Silva" for their case & ignore the 40 times we've seen Charles in trouble over the years lol.

Wobbled against Gaethje, Chandler and Dustin? Its not even comparable how much better they are than Gamrot in the striking. Yeah Charles defence isnt great due to his head movement but at least he keeps his hands up unlike whatever the fuck Dariush was doing when he got kneed. Arman was winning the striking against Gamrot with his kicks and that spinning elbow he landed, not his boxing which Gamrot was arguably getting the better of. Charles has good kicking defence. Its his boxing defence that is lacking and he wont have to worry about that against Arman nearly as much as he did against the people he got rocked against.

Maybe in round 1 but Charles hates decisions and always goes for the kill so I say his chances of winning go down 10% for each round that passes lol.

You call it amusing that I ignore the "40 times" Charles has been in trouble yet you make this claim about his chances going down each round? Are you forgetting that he fought Dustin in a very high paced for three rounds and didn't slow down once? Arman was the one who was slowing down against Gamrot.

 

[MMAProfessional]

One of the two has to fight Makhachev
The other should fight Gaethje for number 1 contender

I saw f it and give Gaethje the shot. Never understood why Oliveira got another shot so quick anyway. Islam needs to have some variety. Fighting the same people over and over takes away from his defenses IMO.