Chappie

[mozfonky]

Didn't know much about Chappie prior to watching this vid. Did not know how he could possibly teach Joe Louis anything when the fighters of his era didn't fight anything like Joe. All mystery, but with a little bit of the dark areas illuminated. No fighter ever fought like Joe before or since and I've never seen anyone punch like him though I'm sure someone did.

Amazingly, Chappie was 133 pounds in his prime, beat many larger men which is a feat in any era but most incredibly, apparently took on Jack Johnson in sparring and totally decimated him. Beating guys more than a couple divisions above a natural weight is honestly rare at the elite level if the opponent is truly elite, this guys fighting a heavyweight who outweighed him by at least 70 pounds, simply boggles the mind and is up in the realm of Bruce Lee Myth shit.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Going to watch this video. It's only a little over 20 minutes long so might as well.

 

[Mujeriego]

We should have a Sparring Wars thread for all of these so called ass beatings that happened through out history behind closed doors.

 

[mozfonky]

We should have a Sparring Wars thread for all of these so called ass beatings that happened through out history behind closed doors.

sure seem to be a lot of them. It's sparring so it doesn't count and may or may not tell us much depending on the fighters. But a 133 pound man witnessed by many people embarrrassing a 202 pound champion? That is really something if true. That big a span isn't even generally allowed for sparring and if it is, it's the heavyweight who has to hold back everything, not the heavyweight taking a beating. If you've ever seen guys even a few divisions different sparring, you'll see that the smaller guy can get knocked around just from the mass of the bigger man.

 

[mozfonky]

Going to watch this video. It's only a little over 20 minutes long so might as well.

rich has the best boxing channel on youtube. Probably should cite where he gets info a bit more as I've caught him taking quotes out of books I've read, which is fine but I'd like to know where some of his info is coming from just for legitimacy.

Chappie was an interesting figure, very close with Joe, often on the wrong side of the law and apparently quite capable in the ring as he commonly fought and beat bigger men, avoided by his eras best fighters. I just don't get how he could teach Joe to fight the way he did when no one in his era fought remotely like fighters did in Joe's era. Whenever i see the oldtimers, Jack Dempsey, Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney and before, they look all wrong to me, fighters only start looking right to me by the Henry Armstrong era, before that I just don't get how these great fighters fought the way I see them. Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, these reputed guys who might not have little if any fight footage but training footage they look awful in are in that former category too. I mean some of these guys have awesome records so they had to have been doing something right but they look like a beginner would in some of their training footage, just awful. The dempsey's, leonards and johnsons look about as bad in much of their fight footage.