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[Trabaho]

Lol I had this CD when I was 14. We used to listen to whole albums, no spotify or youtube.

 

[maximus__]

Mirko wasn´t banned at all. They revoked it. He said his knee was broken again and he used it to recover. Man´s had +10 surgeries. He retired after passig out from some artery in his neck, I think brain stroke. Doctor forbid him to ever spar again. Mirko is a legend.

Yes he was. He was suspended 2 years by USADA for admitting to PED use.
He competed in other organisations during that time. He was a legend, but he also cheated, was suspended and then ignored that suspension.

Mirko Cro Cop didn't sit out during his two-year USADA suspension, so is he eligible to fight in Bellator?

Instead of sitting out a full ban, Mirko Cro Cop fought in Japan. Now he returns with Bellator, which could present some tricky questions.

mmajunkie.usatoday.com

 

[Trabaho]

Yes he was. He was suspended 2 years by USADA for admitting to PED use.
He competed in other organisations during that time. He was a legend, but he also cheated, was suspended and then ignored that suspension.

Mirko Cro Cop didn't sit out during his two-year USADA suspension, so is he eligible to fight in Bellator?

Instead of sitting out a full ban, Mirko Cro Cop fought in Japan. Now he returns with Bellator, which could present some tricky questions.

mmajunkie.usatoday.com

He admited to Hgh to cure a injury. Test came back negative.

However I must've read some fake news 10 years ago about how USADa revoked any punishment. It's still vivid in my mind.

 

[Trabaho]

Yes he was. He was suspended 2 years by USADA for admitting to PED use.
He competed in other organisations during that time. He was a legend, but he also cheated, was suspended and then ignored that suspension.

Mirko Cro Cop didn't sit out during his two-year USADA suspension, so is he eligible to fight in Bellator?

Instead of sitting out a full ban, Mirko Cro Cop fought in Japan. Now he returns with Bellator, which could present some tricky questions.

mmajunkie.usatoday.com

How many % of pro fight athletes use steroids ? If 50% or more use, is it still cheating ?

Are Canelo, Randy Couture, Hendo, Sean O Miley, Anderson Silva, Royce Gracie cheaters ?

 

[maximus__]

How many % of pro fight athletes use steroids ? If 50% or more use, is it still cheating ?

Are Canelo, Randy Couture, Hendo, Sean O Miley, Anderson Silva, Royce Gracie cheaters ?

If you compete in an org that requires testing and choose to use, then yes it's cheating.
It's no different to any other sport. We don't glorify Olympic athletes that cheat, we ban them from competing and revoke their wins.

If you want to use PEDs fight outside the UFC in an org that allows it. 50% of UFC athletes barely earn minimum wage.
Those guys aren't using a high level PED cycle that can avoid testing. It's overblown in the UFC. The money isn't enough to make it worthwhile. That's why people usually start to pop as they are on their way out and they usually pop for random stuff that reads more like a bodybuilder stack. The struggling fighters get some random stuff off a bodybuilder and then pop for it.

 

[Trabaho]

If you compete in an org that requires testing and choose to use, then yes it's cheating.
It's no different to any other sport. We don't glorify Olympic athletes that cheat, we ban them from competing and revoke their wins.

If you want to use PEDs fight outside the UFC in an org that allows it. 50% of UFC athletes barely earn minimum wage.
Those guys aren't using a high level PED cycle that can avoid testing. It's overblown in the UFC. The money isn't enough to make it worthwhile. That's why people usually start to pop as they are on their way out and they usually pop for random stuff that reads more like a bodybuilder stack. The struggling fighters get some random stuff off a bodybuilder and then pop for it.

Interesting points about finances. I never considered it as I don't think about steroid costs. My brother said he bought hgh and other roid stuff for our bodybuilder juice head napoleon friend at the drug store. Drug store means Apotheke / Apoteka ? Like pharmacy med store ? Basicaly they just sold some roids over the counter for pregnant women or something. Is it expensive if our buddy can afford it ? He is from Croatia and only comes to visit family in Herzegovina. I didn't see him in forever. But he is a total roid head. How can he afford it with his average Croatian salary and UFC fighters can't ?

Nah actually you said stuff that doesn't get caught. So designer steroids ? What is a protocol that doesn't get caught ?
Can they not just get regular roids like gym bros and hide it somehow ?

Can they not just buy test creme and use enough to be slightly under the max limit daily ?

 

[1rawdog]

Here's a challenge. This is a concentration curl, link with vid and picture in case the link doesn't work. I once heard someone claim that they can do this easily for strict reps with 90lbs. I challenge you or any nameless individual who has ever made such a claim here to post a video of said feat with verified weight. It certainly is possible. Upon proof with good uncut video I will anonymously donate a whole whopping 20 dollars to the charity of your choice in your name. Obviously money is not the point.
As shown, full ROM, strict reps, no momentum or other cheating. Note the elbow position relative to the thigh.

And @Trabaho there is no way we can prove it unfortunately but I'm pretty well connected with some people in both the MMA and AAS community, I assure you that the consensus is that the large majority of pros in and out of the ufc are still using various PED's including AAS and were during Usada days. Reduced dosages (compared to pre Usada ) of Testosterone, around 300mg/week is rampant and can easily get past Usada's flawed testing. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

ExRx.net : Dumbbell Concentration Curl

exrx.net

 

[maximus__]

Interesting points about finances. I never considered it as I don't think about steroid costs. My brother said he bought hgh and other roid stuff for our bodybuilder juice head napoleon friend at the drug store. Drug store means Apotheke / Apoteka ? Like pharmacy med store ? Basicaly they just sold some roids over the counter for pregnant women or something. Is it expensive if our buddy can afford it ? He is from Croatia and only comes to visit family in Herzegovina. I didn't see him in forever. But he is a total roid head. How can he afford it with his average Croatian salary and UFC fighters can't ?

Nah actually you said stuff that doesn't get caught. So designer steroids ? What is a protocol that doesn't get caught ?
Can they not just get regular roids like gym bros and hide it somehow ?

Can they not just buy test creme and use enough to be slightly under the max limit daily ?

No they can't. The previous USADA list includes most common PEDs, masking agents and diuretics used to flush the system quickly. You also previously could use IVs to do this.

Jon Jones for example was alternating positive and negative tests going into the Gustaffson fight from memory. They moved the card to a new commission before we got the "pulsing" excuse. IF we believe that Jon Jones "accidentally" took so much of a PED that he could never be guaranteed to test negative again, with Jones being one of the most successful athletes AND having an NFL brother who popped for the same thing, how could someone who is making 15k/15k on debut get around the testing?
Guys will take cheaper stuff on the regional whilst working, declare what they are using when they get signed and then take a hiatus after declaring what they were using.

Statement On Joilton Lutterbach

www.ufc.com

Drug free sport is a different org so it might change.

That's why you see guys look like absolute gods on the regional scene really struggle to crack into the UFC. The level is higher, not everyone is using and it's harder to use in the UFC.

PED use isn't as rampant as people make out. These guys just train their arses off.