Challenge me

[Trabaho]

Yeah, maybe it is time for you to go back to work...

I am going to leave you to rant in your thread.

Don´t forget I respect you. What music do you like ?

What do you think about our jugoslavian rap ?

Favorite out of these

Happy




Hard



or Darker tune



I like it all, big music junky. English, Jugo, German Music. All genres besides death methal and that devil stuff loool. Marlyn Manson is kinda fire though. Like Hellfire.


In the Rasta songs above, Imo best balkan rapper, I vote for the hard track

When he said :
Svi bi da broje krvavi evro
Mnogi su iste te pištolje stavljali na čelo
A na opelu, svi na bеlom, kurve kô da su u separeu
Na odеlu, tragovi krvi su na odelu
Prvi na redu su oni što bili su u delu
(Bomboclaat) Narkomani su u redu
Ortaci prodaju sranje brže nego Nutelu
Svi samo jure to zvanje kô da su u kartelu
Svi negde žure najdalje, svi su tu na mardelju
A gule se đonovi sve dok ne postanu donovi (Woo)
Žive u Sodomi, Gomori, pazi šta govoriš (Psst)
Fokus na lovi, u glavi su kola i stanovi (Yeah)
Svi jure te snove, Bogdan Bogdanović (Woo, woo, woo)

Sonically the part before and when it drops to narkomani and the vidoe show crack or is that cociane. The third verse also got hands down one of the best balkan flows we have heard.
Second verse is a contrast cause it´s very effortless.

Best part is noone understands our shit so noone will have any clue or listen to how high level this is. Shame. Wish everyone could speak Serbian / Croatian. But I think you can feel the flow of the third verse.




I think I need to start partying again. I love music. Kinda different than writing my shit on sherdog. Music and alcohol or.... drugs. Well fuck drugs don´t promote that to the young people. Besides weed is the only half way normal drug. IMO.

 

[1rawdog]

there is no logical explanation for Izyys titty. It´s peds. How did he not pop ?

Than did you see more plates more dates video about Kamaru that got Kamaru offended ? Yeah, there injection marks on his body, his crazy epo cardio, his bodybuilder lean atlhetic phisique, mini Romero. Why does Romero not pop ? Or he popped once and it was ta ding ta ding it was of course a tainted suplement. Guys be having fake suplement company shemes to fake it. Kamaru is a grown man with back acne. His brother is a pharamcist ? His fighting brother looks obviosuyl like roids at HW. Sure west Africa genetics are powerful, muscle wise, but still.

Obviously if you've read all the posts me and @maximus__ have different views on the subject but your ideas here are just that, ideas. They prove nothing. If I had to bet I would bet that both those guys have used but that proves absolutely nothing,
Neither one has a build that is out of the question naturally. Some people are special, dare I say that some of the best athletes in the world might be among the special?
There are plenty of possible explanations for gyno that are not related to PEDs.
This thing about injection marks is one of the most ignorant conspiracy theories surrounding the subject. People say that about GSP too. Me and many other people have those same little lumps on my belly in various places despite never having injected anything there, that's not a place you would inject. I can only speak for myself but mine are blood vessels. IF this was really proof of anything don't you think they would just inject where their shorts would cover them?

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

 

[Trabaho]

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

I´m not racialy sensitive cause I am not racist. I can never say something wrong. You can not get caught in a lie if you aren´t a liar.

 

[Trabaho]

Obviously if you've read all the posts me and @maximus__ have different views on the subject but your ideas here are just that, ideas. They prove nothing. If I had to bet I would bet that both those guys have used but that proves absolutely nothing,
Neither one has a build that is out of the question naturally. Some people are special, dare I say that some of the best athletes in the world might be among the special?
There are plenty of possible explanations for gyno that are not related to PEDs.
This thing about injection marks is one of the most ignorant conspiracy theories surrounding the subject. People say that about GSP too. Me and many other people have those same little lumps on my belly in various places despite never having injected anything there, that's not a place you would inject. I can only speak for myself but mine are blood vessels. IF this was really proof of anything don't you think they would just inject where their shorts would cover them?

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

since I got you here, one last question, what percentage of pro combat athletes do you estimate are using special supplements ?

 

[Trabaho]

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

I´m a man, you´re a man. Boo hoo cry me about your or my race.

 

[1rawdog]

Guy said move it in any direction. I mean he is a good guy but I don´t argue with him for a reason. Did it once and happy to just appreciate his input without getting into discussions. He is a decent guy but got some ideas and principle that are unique to him.
You are doing it again. Unless you are thinking of someone else that is not what he said at all. He said pretty much what I said. I was being purposely vague so the guy I'm thinking of doesn't start crying and report me for bullying which has happened before (not by him). And I disagree, he is dickhead liar who has attacked and slandered me in an unrelated thread. The only communication I will have with him moving forward would be to ask what charity if he pulls it off. Simply not worth the keystrokes.

Very intriguing. Be careful to not snitch. Or "dry snitch". Or "dox" yourself.

Thanks, I'm not involved in anything that would get me in any trouble, would only cause trouble for others and no laws are being broken here anyways. That will be my last comment about that part.

 

[Trabaho]

I didn´t mean laws about some creatine ect, just like when I write stuff, also about real people or events, I make sure to not write it in a revealing way so that one day by accident some idiot can go trough my post history and tell someone hey ___my name said so and so about you. That´s all. Just on personal levels. It´s not criminal activites, we are just on sherdog talking about sports and training. If I trained with Jon Jones I would never say anything private about him on an internet forum. Some people are stupid and got too much time and will fish for details and make conections. Not even about famous people, someone can recognise me from a lift video and try to stir shit up ect. You also never know who is on sherdog or who was bored and looked for your online postings from people that know you that aren´t even famous let alone having some info about famous people like pro athletes.

 

[maximus__]

Obviously if you've read all the posts me and @maximus__ have different views on the subject but your ideas here are just that, ideas. They prove nothing. If I had to bet I would bet that both those guys have used but that proves absolutely nothing,
Neither one has a build that is out of the question naturally. Some people are special, dare I say that some of the best athletes in the world might be among the special?
There are plenty of possible explanations for gyno that are not related to PEDs.
This thing about injection marks is one of the most ignorant conspiracy theories surrounding the subject. People say that about GSP too. Me and many other people have those same little lumps on my belly in various places despite never having injected anything there, that's not a place you would inject. I can only speak for myself but mine are blood vessels. IF this was really proof of anything don't you think they would just inject where their shorts would cover them?

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

100% this on the injection sites. That's just athletes cutting down to extremely low levels.

Don't get me wrong I, I know athletes use, but people make it out like everyone is Lance Armstrong in MMA. The vast percentage are clean, but will push the boundaries on recovery stuff.

Different countries have different access to PEDs and of varying qualities. I just don't believe there is widespread PED use in the UFC based off my limited experience with athletes at just below that level. They primarily get used to recover from massive injuries or extended periods off fighting.

The fighters you want to look at are the ones that do their camps in isolated areas with a close knit team of guys. That's the easiest way to avoid the testing for PED use. They can then use stuff that has a short testing window, immediately benefits their training sessions and then flush their system to be clean on fight day.

Its not Pride levels of PED abuse because the money isn't as good. It's the guy who has a reoccurring knee/back injury that is willing to risk it all to recover after nothing else works. You get a few outliers, but most fighters will be clean until they get desperate.

 

[Trabaho]

Obviously if you've read all the posts me and @maximus__ have different views on the subject but your ideas here are just that, ideas. They prove nothing. If I had to bet I would bet that both those guys have used but that proves absolutely nothing,
Neither one has a build that is out of the question naturally. Some people are special, dare I say that some of the best athletes in the world might be among the special?
There are plenty of possible explanations for gyno that are not related to PEDs.
This thing about injection marks is one of the most ignorant conspiracy theories surrounding the subject. People say that about GSP too. Me and many other people have those same little lumps on my belly in various places despite never having injected anything there, that's not a place you would inject. I can only speak for myself but mine are blood vessels. IF this was really proof of anything don't you think they would just inject where their shorts would cover them?

And ffs knock of your race related crap, I'd have to read it all again to refresh my memory to see if it is truly racist but there is no doubt in my mind that it's ignorant and very likely to offend someone.

I never claimed to be in the know of peds in pro sports. I never seen a steroid with my own two eyes. We all see and hear and read and watch things. Some know more and some less. I know more than someone not into sports but nothing compared to people in the know. Not nothing but vastly inferior.I just don´t take peds.

 

[1rawdog]

100% this on the injection sites. That's just athletes cutting down to extremely low levels.

Don't get me wrong I, I know athletes use, but people make it out like everyone is Lance Armstrong in MMA. The vast percentage are clean, but will push the boundaries on recovery stuff.

Different countries have different access to PEDs and of varying qualities. I just don't believe there is widespread PED use in the UFC based off my limited experience with athletes at just below that level. They primarily get used to recover from massive injuries or extended periods off fighting.

The fighters you want to look at are the ones that do their camps in isolated areas with a close knit team of guys. That's the easiest way to avoid the testing for PED use. They can then use stuff that has a short testing window, immediately benefits their training sessions and then flush their system to be clean on fight day.

Its not Pride levels of PED abuse because the money isn't as good. It's the guy who has a reoccurring knee/back injury that is willing to risk it all to recover after nothing else works. You get a few outliers, but most fighters will be clean until they get desperate

I know you read my reply and thoughts on all of this, glad we can disagree and still have a civil conversation. Regarding the marks I'm wondering if we are talking about something different, could you post a pic of the marks you mean?. If they are the ones I've often seen GSP criticized for then I'll be vey firmly standing by my statements above and with all due respect I will be absolutely amazed that you think there is an argument against anything I said in the last paragraph about it. These guys aren't that stupid, at least not all of them lol. There is no reason to inject there, sub Q injections are placed where there is fat, there is way fattier places on even the leanest man and they are not so easily viewed.

 

[maximus__]

I know you read my reply and thoughts on all of this, glad we can disagree and still have a civil conversation. Regarding the marks I'm wondering if we are talking about something different, could you post a pic of the marks you mean?. If they are the ones I've often seen GSP criticized for then I'll be vey firmly standing by my statements above and with all due respect I will be absolutely amazed that you think there is an argument against anything I said in the last paragraph about it. These guys aren't that stupid, at least not all of them lol. There is no reason to inject there, sub Q injections are placed where there is fat, there is way fattier places on even the leanest man and they are not so easily viewed.

No we agree on the injection site thing completely. No reason to put it there in full view for face offs.

Literally pop it into the inner thigh which is less painful and hidden by longer style underwear.
Only reason to go stomach area is because you are too fat to get to the thigh or even buttocks.

I don't think GSP was using. I think like most he skirted the boundaries later for recovery, but I don't think he was using what we traditionally think of as PEDs during his career. His supposed HGH gut was just him breathing correctly from karate. He wouldn't even be considered a big WW in today's era.

 

[1rawdog]

No we agree on the injection site thing completely. No reason to put it there in full view for face offs.

Literally pop it into the inner thigh which is less painful and hidden by longer style underwear.
Only reason to go stomach area is because you are too fat to get to the thigh or even buttocks.

I don't think GSP was using. I think like most he skirted the boundaries later for recovery, but I don't think he was using what we traditionally think of as PEDs during his career. His supposed HGH gut was just him breathing correctly from karate. He wouldn't even be considered a big WW in today's era.

Certainly possible, as I alluded to before there are freaks out there. There were around 5 billion people on the planet when he was born, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some genetic combinations that add up to some superior physical specimens especially with excellent work ethic.
Agree with the breathing. That HGH gut picture that we used to see all the time pissed me off lol.
I stood about 15 feet away from him once, off season and shirtless he looks fantastic but he really isn't very big. Dressed I bet he just looks like a very athletic guy.

 

[maximus__]

Certainly possible, as I alluded to before there are freaks out there. There were around 5 billion people on the planet when he was born, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some genetic combinations that add up to some superior physical specimens especially with excellent work ethic.
Agree with the breathing. That HGH gut picture that we used to see all the time pissed me off lol.
I stood about 15 feet away from him once, off season and shirtless he looks fantastic but he really isn't very big. Dressed I bet he just looks like a very athletic guy.

100%. People like Usman and GSP are the top 1% of athletes within the sport. To defend a UFC title multiple times takes something that not many people have. The USADA testing is good enough to catch those guys. They caught Jon Jones multiple times for example, they just let him off because he sold out his entire team (IMO).

 

[1rawdog]

100%. People like Usman and GSP are the top 1% of athletes within the sport. To defend a UFC title multiple times takes something that not many people have. The USADA testing is good enough to catch those guys. They caught Jon Jones multiple times for example, they just let him off because he sold out his entire team (IMO).

I just realized that when I said "you" back in post #110 it was very poorly worded, the whole post was, I didn't mean you personally, I meant it as in a general sense of whoever.

I will tell you that I know the USADA testing is not infallible by any means. I know one guy who went through with no issues and last ingested testosterone 8 days before his fight. There is a big caveat though. Yes they took samples but if you don't fail they don't tell you anything. At least not right away. Plus what tests are done and what lab equipment is used varies by location.
I won't go into all the ways to cheat but it can be done very cheaply, the passports were a step in the right direction but the smart guys know how to play that part of the game too. With enough time this would probably catch everyone out though I think. I'm curious if the ufc has all that passport info, it would be valuable to continue it.

 

[maximus__]

I just realized that when I said "you" back in post #110 it was very poorly worded, the whole post was, I didn't mean you personally, I meant it as in a general sense of whoever.

I will tell you that I know the USADA testing is not infallible by any means. I know one guy who went through with no issues and last ingested testosterone 8 days before his fight. There is a big caveat though. Yes they took samples but if you don't fail they don't tell you anything. At least not right away. Plus what tests are done and what lab equipment is used varies by location.
I won't go into all the ways to cheat but it can be done very cheaply, the passports were a step in the right direction but the smart guys know how to play that part of the game too. With enough time this would probably catch everyone out though I think. I'm curious if the ufc has all that passport info, it would be valuable to continue it.

What dose of testosterone was consumed 8 days prior to a fight? What level was that fighter and were they short notice on debut?

I am mostly referring to this widespread belief that the entire UFC roster is juiced to the gills all year round and circumventing long term testing. I don't believe that is true and as you said people would start testing positive more regularly. There was some recent coming out that USADA was allowing athletes to continue competing after failed PED tests as informers. The passports are a great idea and I hope UFC kept the rights for those. I am not sold on Drug free sport though.

The level I am more familiar with is other major orgs and knowing fighters that would skirt the weightcut, blood work requirements and use dodgy methods to beat those testings.

 

[1rawdog]

What dose of testosterone was consumed 8 days prior to a fight? What level was that fighter and were they short notice on debut?

I am mostly referring to this widespread belief that the entire UFC roster is juiced to the gills all year round and circumventing long term testing. I don't believe that is true and as you said people would start testing positive more regularly. There was some recent coming out that USADA was allowing athletes to continue competing after failed PED tests as informers. The passports are a great idea and I hope UFC kept the rights for those. I am not sold on Drug free sport though.

The level I am more familiar with is other major orgs and knowing fighters that would skirt the weightcut, blood work requirements and use dodgy methods to beat those testings.

I'll send DM for the the first questions, it's not my place to give that much detail in public.

I don't think guys are juiced to the gills all year round and I think for the most part anything resembling heavy doses is super rare since the passports came. Most of it seems to be off season. Designer stuff can itself be indetectable but the effects of it on other metrics get complicated to hide because of the passport. I also believe that some failed tests get buried for various reasons but never have been told of anyone's direct knowledge of any specific case. Jon Jones seems to be one that everyone believes for the exact reason you said though.

I'll give you one example that I probably have posted here before. This one could be done for no cost other than the drugs but the example is a guy who has cash. All you really need is some ingenuity though and some modifications to the example.

Brock Lesnar owns a huge ranch. Brock fills out his whereabouts report stating he is at home on certain date. Testing guy shows up unannounced at the gate which happens to be miles from Brocks house and buzzes the intercom which the wife answers,
"USADA Testing guy here for Brock please"
"Oh Brock's not here right now sorry"
"Well that's gonna be a problem maam, his report says he is supposed to be home right now"
"Oh he is home he is just not at the house, he is off in the north forty somewhere"
"Okay I will call him, I need to test him"
"Oh there is no cell service out there sorry"
"that's fine just give me directions and I will go to him"
"Sure I don't know exactly where he is but you can go look. Do you want to feed and water your horse first?"
"I don't have a horse maam, I'll just drive"
"Oh there are no roads out there, it's a full days ride if you can even find him"
"Well I'm going to have to report this as a whereabouts violation"
"well do what you have to do I guess I don't know anything about that but I can have him call you when he gets back"

So Brock gets reported, but protests "I was at home like I said i would be"

Even if they ding him anyways, it's not a drug violation, (I think) you get 3 misses in an rolling 18 month period before it's called a fail. Poor Brock might even have some trouble out in the wilderness and be gone for months! Good think he brought plenty of diuretics and plasma with him. He might have to get an IV going due to a medical emergency or something which is of course perfectly legal. And if anything illegal happened to get in his system as long as it wasn't anything with long lasting metabolites it could be completely cleared from his system by the time he was able to get home. Brock is lucky that way.

Could just as easily be some guy who is training in Thailand but happened to leave the country right before the tester shows up and forgot to update his whereabouts app. Poor dude had his cell phone stolen while he was on the bus ride to south africa too. Just unlucky timing I guess!

 

[maximus__]

I'll send DM for the the first questions, it's not my place to give that much detail in public.

I don't think guys are juiced to the gills all year round and I think for the most part anything resembling heavy doses is super rare since the passports came. Most of it seems to be off season. Designer stuff can itself be indetectable but the effects of it on other metrics get complicated to hide because of the passport. I also believe that some failed tests get buried for various reasons but never have been told of anyone's direct knowledge of any specific case. Jon Jones seems to be one that everyone believes for the exact reason you said though.

I'll give you one example that I probably have posted here before. This one could be done for no cost other than the drugs but the example is a guy who has cash. All you really need is some ingenuity though and some modifications to the example.

Brock Lesnar owns a huge ranch. Brock fills out his whereabouts report stating he is at home on certain date. Testing guy shows up unannounced at the gate which happens to be miles from Brocks house and buzzes the intercom which the wife answers,
"USADA Testing guy here for Brock please"
"Oh Brock's not here right now sorry"
"Well that's gonna be a problem maam, his report says he is supposed to be home right now"
"Oh he is home he is just not at the house, he is off in the north forty somewhere"
"Okay I will call him, I need to test him"
"Oh there is no cell service out there sorry"
"that's fine just give me directions and I will go to him"
"Sure I don't know exactly where he is but you can go look. Do you want to feed and water your horse first?"
"I don't have a horse maam, I'll just drive"
"Oh there are no roads out there, it's a full days ride if you can even find him"
"Well I'm going to have to report this as a whereabouts violation"
"well do what you have to do I guess I don't know anything about that but I can have him call you when he gets back"

So Brock gets reported, but protests "I was at home like I said i would be"

Even if they ding him anyways, it's not a drug violation, (I think) you get 3 misses in an rolling 18 month period before it's called a fail. Poor Brock might even have some trouble out in the wilderness and be gone for months! Good think he brought plenty of diuretics and plasma with him. He might have to get an IV going due to a medical emergency or something which is of course perfectly legal. And if anything illegal happened to get in his system as long as it wasn't anything with long lasting metabolites it could be completely cleared from his system by the time he was able to get home. Brock is lucky that way.

Could just as easily be some guy who is training in Thailand but happened to leave the country right before the tester shows up and forgot to update his whereabouts app. Poor dude had his cell phone stolen while he was on the bus ride to south africa too. Just unlucky timing I guess!

This is what I referenced before about teams of fighters who train in remote locations as a tight knit group.

Training in an isolated region with a long extended camp is a major flag. Hard to locate, advance warning and regular small doses used to specifically get the most out of each session, but able to flush or have an issue being available for the testing.

Those things aren't available to 90% of UFC fighters.

 

[Trabaho]

Certainly possible, as I alluded to before there are freaks out there.

me

There were around 5 billion people on the planet when he was born

me special

, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some genetic combinations that add up to some superior physical specimens

I am

especially with excellent work ethic.

Nope no good work ethic

Agree with the breathing.

with my pectus excavatum perhaps I don´t breah so well and that´s why I had the worst running cardio playing soccer as a young guy and shit

That HGH gut picture that we used to see all the time pissed me off lol.

I got the huge gut without HGH. The pic I posted is cat fish, suck it in, take 10 pics, wear black, pick the best pic lool lean and pretend it´s me, in reality there is a 20 pound barrel in front of me

I stood about 15 feet away from him once,

did you like it ?

off season and shirtless

wooooho

he looks fantastic but it really isn't very big.

hmmmm, what does this mean. Too much info

Dressed I bet he just looks like a very athletic guy.

yeah he is lean on alleged fast food diet, but fast food isn´t all bad depending on quality. GSP the most well balanced in all areas, cardio, speed, explosiveness, defense, offense, grappling stirking, IQ, toughness, long arms.

 

[Trabaho]

100%. People like Usman and GSP are the top 1% of athletes within the sport.

I´m in the 0.1%

To defend a UFC title multiple times takes something that not many people have.

I have yet to debut

The USADA testing is good enough to catch those guys. They caught Jon Jones multiple times for example, they just let him off because he sold out his entire team (IMO).

So you calling Jonny boy a filthy dirty roddent crawled out a sewer. He is a ugly rat splinter rodent.

 

[Trabaho]

I'll send DM for the the first questions, it's not my place to give that much detail in public.

I don't think guys are juiced to the gills all year round and I think for the most part anything resembling heavy doses is super rare since the passports came. Most of it seems to be off season. Designer stuff can itself be indetectable but the effects of it on other metrics get complicated to hide because of the passport. I also believe that some failed tests get buried for various reasons but never have been told of anyone's direct knowledge of any specific case. Jon Jones seems to be one that everyone believes for the exact reason you said though.

I'll give you one example that I probably have posted here before. This one could be done for no cost other than the drugs but the example is a guy who has cash. All you really need is some ingenuity though and some modifications to the example.

Brock Lesnar owns a huge ranch. Brock fills out his whereabouts report stating he is at home on certain date. Testing guy shows up unannounced at the gate which happens to be miles from Brocks house and buzzes the intercom which the wife answers,
"USADA Testing guy here for Brock please"
"Oh Brock's not here right now sorry"
"Well that's gonna be a problem maam, his report says he is supposed to be home right now"
"Oh he is home he is just not at the house, he is off in the north forty somewhere"
"Okay I will call him, I need to test him"
"Oh there is no cell service out there sorry"
"that's fine just give me directions and I will go to him"
"Sure I don't know exactly where he is but you can go look. Do you want to feed and water your horse first?"
"I don't have a horse maam, I'll just drive"
"Oh there are no roads out there, it's a full days ride if you can even find him"
"Well I'm going to have to report this as a whereabouts violation"
"well do what you have to do I guess I don't know anything about that but I can have him call you when he gets back"

So Brock gets reported, but protests "I was at home like I said i would be"

Even if they ding him anyways, it's not a drug violation, (I think) you get 3 misses in an rolling 18 month period before it's called a fail. Poor Brock might even have some trouble out in the wilderness and be gone for months! Good think he brought plenty of diuretics and plasma with him. He might have to get an IV going due to a medical emergency or something which is of course perfectly legal. And if anything illegal happened to get in his system as long as it wasn't anything with long lasting metabolites it could be completely cleared from his system by the time he was able to get home. Brock is lucky that way.

Could just as easily be some guy who is training in Thailand but happened to leave the country right before the tester shows up and forgot to update his whereabouts app. Poor dude had his cell phone stolen while he was on the bus ride to south africa too. Just unlucky timing I guess!

Sounds like a lame excuse you would give a teacher to go earlier home from school. "My grandma died, I gotta go to the funeral" "Teacher actually knows your family and grandma but still let´s you go".