Chael Sonnen Argues Adesanya Has Surpassed Jon Jones: "You're not one of the Greats in the Sport.".

[Brigfa2]

I don't know how anyone promotes Jones as the GOAT with so many failed drug tests.

Yeah but at the same time, grown men doesn't grow titties without taking some shady shit
Izzy is not a teenager

 

[Fox by the Sea]

no, man, no.
and i say that as someone who doesn't like Jon at all.

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

Jones was an inactive drug cheat.

Adesanya has been super active recently, and not a drug cheat.

Ill always hold Izzy in higher regard as a martial artist personally, especially as he also had 80 kick boxing fights.

Or you just hate Jones because he beat the shit out of one of your old head favorites.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

To be fair, so has Jon, Jon has also had a not only HOF run, but GOAT run BEFORE his 1st failure. And besides Silva nuthuggers give Silva a pass for failing multiple USADA tests(hell, even his very first random), AND Silva has double digit losses, and losses to guys below his weight classes, and with literally losing records, yet some have him above Jon because of Jon's failures?!?(hell some even have Silva as #1 MMA GOAT, LOL!<45>).

Where as Jon has had a HOF/GOAT worthy career PRE AND POST USADA failures.

Trust me, I use to be VERY outspoken about PED busts because I was a GSP is MMA GOAT nut hugger(still my #1b!), but tbh, even WITH Jones USADA history, I just simply cannot deny him being MMA GOAT anymore. Especially as HW champ, because I'm not like these fickle bandwagoners who say Cyril was an "easy match up" just because Jon dispatched him so easily, Cyril was the legitimate #1-2 HW, and was who people were WANTING him to fight(because Francis just absolutely wouldn't re-sign the new contract, if not allowed to box). They're pretty much the same people who thought Bisping would beat GSP when that fight happened, but since GSP finished him, it magically an easy cherry pick(even tho GSP was originally slated for Woodley, which everyone knows GSP would have dominated him too).

Its ALWAYS a "Damned if you do, and damned if you don't" with Sherdoggers, its actually kinda embarrassingly stupid. EVERYTIME a fighter foes with opponent A vs opponent B, it's because they're ducking opponent B, yet if that fighter chose opponent B, people would say they're ducking opponent A. The fighter in question simply can NEVER win, no matter what.

Just like now with retirement rumors, people are bitching that Jones is scared, even though Jon has literally beaten every single motherfucker in front of him, more legends in his resume that ANY fighter in history, most title fight wins EVER, UNDEFEATED, TWO divisions champion of the highest weight classes, where a single punch can derail everything, and GOAT of LHW, which was the premier weight class for the longest.

Its absurd, and this is coming from someone (while I never hated him) that did not have him as #1 GOAT, but its basically un-debatable now, or at least I have yet to read an unbiased, logical, rationally articulated & reasonable counter argument for it.

Well said!
Great post!

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Chael has basically made a career out of 1) doing well against Anderson Silva before losing 2) saying dumb shit. He was nothing special as a fighter and his schtick was fun for like a year, and that year was a long fucking time ago.

Right now Izzy isnt anywhere near Jones, while only being two years younger and with Jones still competing and winning at a high level. Hes also been KO'd and lost maybe 4 of 5 rounds to an old Jan who was a journeyman at 205 in the days where Jones was dominating the division.

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

Elaborate? Lol

Peche Mortel and Trois where what I was exposed to when visiting my friends in Montreal. The Trois you can think of Heineken without the nasty after taste and burps. The Peche I cant describe other than smooth going down and then tons of farts and burps. But a good while afterwards. So you can get away from the lady and let them out.

 

[Sweater of AV]

He's addicted to being stupid. I cant help that. Might need to card us both.

Why would I be carded for you not being able to think, read or write at a first grade level?

Jones beat the breaks off Stipe

Take a break bud. You have a long day of being a can ahead of you.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Shit gets funnier every time. Not sure there’s been a bigger duck in recent years. Jonny boy ran scared for so many years...

 

[CalmLlama]

Izzy: 2 time middleweight champ. 5 defences. Also was interim champ. Second most title fight wins in UFC Middleweight division history (8) Second longest winning streak in UFC Middleweight division history (12)

jon Jones: current heavyweight champ. 2 time light heavyweight champ. 11 title defences. Was interim champ.

Longest light heavyweight reign in UFC history (1,501 days)

Most light heavyweight title defences (11)

Tied (Dj) for most title defences in the ufc (11)
Most consecutive light heavyweight title defences (8)
Most wins in ufc title fights. Youngest ufc champion. Longest unbeaten streak in ufc history.

jones has a bigger legacy than izzy

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

Why would I be carded for you not being able to think, read or write at a first grade level?



Take a break bud. You have a long day of being a can ahead of you.

Love the emotes son.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Love the emotes son.

That’s nice, kiddo. Get back to class