International Centenary: Chinese Communist Party (1921-2021)

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[Deorum]

They will see if they can make the shape of his head funnier!

More square...

He's supposedly laying low in Hangzhou.

 

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@MicroBrew

Surely, you have content to add to the OP.

 

[Orgasmo]

Every head of CCP since Deng has said the same thing over and over. I think it's just a regular speech to keep their army focused and loyal.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Bullshit. I've been arguing for regulated capitalism for years. That's the only thing that would prevent shit like that. You constantly smear anyone to the left of Trump as a commie. It would take a change in our capitalism to combat China but because conservatives obsess over the free market we are never getting there. Its hilarious, you're basically angry that America's capitalism is working as intended. China has 1.4 billion people and a rising middle class. That means NBA and Hollywood profit off of them more. You're your own worst enemy.

CCP prevented me from giving you a like.

so
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This social credit score thing sherdoff adopted is getting out of hand.

 

[ShinkanPo]

They should not open their mouths Covid going to enter

 

[Zazen]

CCP prevented me from giving you a like.

so
+1.5

This social credit score thing sherdoff adopted is getting out of hand.

It has nothing to do with whether you approve of the CCP. I for one do not approve of everything that they do, I am sadly disappointed about the way in which they moved in the past several years. Hu Jintao was nowhere near as authoritarian as Xi. However with that being said, when people blame China for NBA and Hollywood there needs to be some self-reflection as well. How did we allow this? That's because our brand of capitalism has no loyalty. We are happy to sell out to whomever bids the highest.

If you try to correct any of this we are labeled as socialists or commies by the far right. That's why this is a no win situation.

But go ahead keep coming at me with the same tired responses.

 

[Ichibanner]

If you try to correct any of this we are labeled as socialists or commies by the far right. That's why this is a no win situation.

I'm not "far right" but I'm largely Conservative as it pertains to economic spending, National Sovereignty, secure borders, and such. I think that change is needed, some of which might seem anti-capitalist to some and common sense to others.

We don't allow companies to do business with some nations. Boeing can't sell P-8 military aircraft to whomever they please. It's been that way for decades. It's past time to limit the % of Chinese manufactured product any US company can produce.

As much as many hate Trump he ordered US Companies to stop manufacturing in China over a year ago. Sadly, many news sites either didn't make a big deal of it or spun it to show that it will hurt US businesses.

 

[Deorum]

Every head of CCP since Deng has said the same thing over and over. I think it's just a regular speech to keep their army focused and loyal.

They should not open their mouths Covid going to enter

Yeah, that was just a shameless bump tbh but I am almost ashamed at how much I've painted the regime in an admirable light ITT. I'm just thinking strictly in terms of pragmatism and power, it's mostly devoid of emotional @NoDak's Murican nationalism.

 

[original doom]

good job america in building up china you incompetant bastard.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

aren't all militaries supposed to be this ready anyways?
where is the "be ready in a week or so after we get attacked" military?

 

[Deorum]

aren't all militaries supposed to be this ready anyways?
where is the "be ready in a week or so after we get attacked" military?

Yeah, there isn't one. It was just a filler post but I suppose his messaging and tone was different. The rhetoric is usually in regards to regional neighbors anyway, not some full scale apocalypse with the United States.

Notably, Xi’s remarks about the PLA’s current “frontline military struggles” were a departure from previous year-opening orders – including 2020 – which instructed the armed forces to “manage crises and deter war”. While he did not specify the frontline struggles, 2020 saw the worst conflict in decades with India, in the southwestern border region, which led to more than 20 Indian deaths and an undisclosed number of Chinese casualties. The two sides remain locked in a prolonged stand-off in the frozen Himalayas.

 

[ShinkanPo]

It has nothing to do with whether you approve of the CCP. I for one do not approve of everything that they do, I am sadly disappointed about the way in which they moved in the past several years. Hu Jintao was nowhere near as authoritarian as Xi. However with that being said, when people blame China for NBA and Hollywood there needs to be some self-reflection as well. How did we allow this? That's because our brand of capitalism has no loyalty. We are happy to sell out to whomever bids the highest.

If you try to correct any of this we are labeled as socialists or commies by the far right. That's why this is a no win situation.

But go ahead keep coming at me with the same tired responses.

Its the NBA selling out to China along w/ Beijing Biden.

 

[Deorum]

good job america in building up china you incompetant bastard.

We would've been better off with Nancy Pelosi as POTUS during the 1990s. She was openly fighting against both the Bush and Clinton administrations over China's "most favored nation" trade status and the permanent "normalized" trade relations with the country they were pushing for. She voted against the PNTR bill that ultimately admitted the country into the WTO.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/amp/Clinton-pushes-hard-for-China-to-join-WTO-3066678.php

The opponents Clinton mentions are not congressional Republicans, but some of his own party's leaders in Congress. Two of the strongest foes of permanent normal trade relations with China are House Democratic Minority Whip David Bonior, D-Mich., and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco. Pelosi has said she has no major problems with China's entering the World Trade Organization, where it will be subject to international rules on trade. But she opposes giving up the right of Congress to review the country's trade status with China on a yearly basis.

"We all agree that it would be better to have China inside the WTO, complying with the rules, rather than the status quo of China on the outside violating its agreements with the United States," Pelosi said. "To date, however, the Chinese government has consistently failed to honor its signed bilateral agreements on trade and its international covenants on the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and on human rights in China and Tibet. The Chinese government has no credibility and begs the question: Why should the United States grant permanent trade status on the basis of broken promises rather than proven performance?"

How 'bout that, @ElKarlo 'n @superking?

She still hates the CCP even today. <45>

 

[ElKarlo]

Didn’t realize that she was actually against that. Good for her for actually having morals and all that

btw on colonialism. My brother was in iraq and worked with a lot of Africans. Mostly Kenyans. They even ten years ago talked about the same stuff. That China came in and used Chinese companies that used Chinese labor and basically didn’t interact with the local economies at all.
That and the gulf states slavery are two overlooked injustices happening now

 

[Deorum]

Didn’t realize that she was actually against that. Good for her for actually having morals and all that

btw on colonialism. My brother was in iraq and worked with a lot of Africans. Mostly Kenyans. They even ten years ago talked about the same stuff. That China came in and used Chinese companies that used Chinese labor and basically didn’t interact with the local economies at all.
That and the gulf states slavery are two overlooked injustices happening now

Indeed. If people continue to lie about her record so profusely while pointing at irrelevant shit like ice cream and strolls through Chinatown in San Francisco, I may start a thread dedicated to it: Nancy Pelosi & The Butchers of Beijing (what she called them publicly). It's just a simple matter of fact that she's been by far the most adversarial anti-CCP politician in Washington for decades, on virtually every front, and it isn't even close.

 

[UrG00d]

Xi is running the country as a dictator and I don't approve of it at all. Its one of the main reasons I left after a decade of living there but you bet I'm still going to defend that country against endless smears. When China is wrong I'll call them out but when they do something great I'll give them praise just like any other country on the planet. But it hurts to see so many lies from western media that seem to be centered around gaining support for war. China does a lot of wrong but they've also helped their citizens in many ways that even America fails to do. I just can't get on the hate train. I hope that one day they do go to a democratic form of government but it shouldn't be our job to force that. When Chinese are tired of it they'll rise up on their own and if they don't maybe they deserve whatever is coming. I'm done with being the world police though, that's for damn sure

Do you think the ethnic cleansing of non-Han Chinese minorities is wrong? Falun Gong, Tibetans, Uighur Muslims?

 

[Broadcast]

Yay! Otherwise they do much better than the Americans. ) I mean they don"t live, but they do. Maybe in some decades...

We will go all Commies if China rules the world in about 50 years!

 

[SanchoMF]

It has nothing to do with whether you approve of the CCP. I for one do not approve of everything that they do, I am sadly disappointed about the way in which they moved in the past several years. Hu Jintao was nowhere near as authoritarian as Xi. However with that being said, when people blame China for NBA and Hollywood there needs to be some self-reflection as well. How did we allow this? That's because our brand of capitalism has no loyalty. We are happy to sell out to whomever bids the highest.

If you try to correct any of this we are labeled as socialists or commies by the far right. That's why this is a no win situation.

But go ahead keep coming at me with the same tired responses.

I'd go out on a limb and say that people who cheer for pro laissez-faire capitalism are globalists and even if they're right wing in the classical economic sense, they kinda are the reason populist movements (you can say far right in this context) are gaining momentum against non-nationalist corporatism. As you said, these people have zero loyalty so the CCP can just buy them out for whatever they need in exchange with NBA and Hollywood being your average corporate shills bowing down the dollar, nothing else.
So is the answer more regulation and more attention to any company's national interest? The extreme end of that spectrum is actually the economic arm of the CCP in China.
Whatever China is today has cost tens of millions of lives of their own citizens with concentration camps for the unliked and internationally squashing (debt-trapping) the smaller nations who's leaders they've first lubed with money.
As the economic warfare is a much more recent development in CCP's history and it wouldn't exist without the Great Leap Forward among other terrible deeds everything any Westerner accepts today gives a blessing to more inhuman regime than the Nazi Germany. The Nazis were at least harshly judged by everyone but the Commies and China in particular are let to operate freely meaning there's no fucking backbone in nearly any of the Western leaders.

 

[Deorum]

I'm not "far right"...

...would you let me marry my boyfriend?

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(I actually wouldn't categorize opposition as "far right" at all)