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Hilarious how people are presenting Colbert as some thorn that Trump conspired to get rid of as if Colbert held any cultural or political sway among anybody who was swayable.

Average age of his audience is like 70 years old, overwhelmingly partisan, and the format was dying.

If they were replacing Colbert effective immediately with someone with a neutral reputation then I would think it holds water that politics was at play

but they’re scrapping the whole fucking franchise because tonight shows are done. Partly thanks to streaming, smart phones, but mostly due to the polarization and alienation brought on by guys like Colbert.

If it was political or had anything to do with the merger, they wouldn’t give him the next year with nothing to lose to “go gloves off” as if he wasn’t already at stage 5 TDS hysteria for nearly a decade. That would be giving him a year to sink the merger…if one thing had anything to do with the other
 
HereticBD said:
No it's just the revenue. Let it go. CBS is a private for profit organization, and Colbert was an albatross costing them 40-50 million dollars a year.

Meanwhile, "South Park", that has been making fun of Trump for a decade now, just got rewarded with a $1.5 BILLION dollar deal by the same parent company. It's almost like they got rewarded for generating profits or something...

This whole conspiracy theory is so dumb.
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I’ve seen this claimed that it was losing 40-50 million but honest question where are they getting that figure? I feel like there is no way it’s costing them that much to produce. Is this like an opportunity cost figure? Near as I can figure what they really mean is it’s making 40-50 million less than it was
 
Blayt7hh said:
I’ve seen this claimed that it was losing 40-50 million but honest question where are they getting that figure? I feel like there is no way it’s costing them that much to produce. Is this like an opportunity cost figure? Near as I can figure what they really mean is it’s making 40-50 million less than it was
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It was originally reported on by a few outlets who had interviewed people on the inside. You'd have to ask their accountants for the fine details though.

As far as production goes, Colbert's salary alone would make up a lot of that figure, if it's not turning a profit. Then you have to take into account the salaries of the entire team, plus money they spend on guests, etc.
 
HereticBD said:
It was originally reported on by a few outlets who had interviewed people on the inside. You'd have to ask their accountants for the fine details though.

As far as production goes, Colbert's salary alone would make up a lot of that figure, if it's not turning a profit. Then you have to take into account the salaries of the entire team, plus money they spend on guests, etc.
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It’s not an anonymous source that’s saying that figure that is actually what CBS’ team is saying publicly. So I know you’re not making it up but I’ve been trying to find out how they figured that because frankly it reeks of BS. I don’t believe they would have waited this long to axe him if they were losing that much money in revenue. I’m fairly certain now by “losing 40-50m” they mean it was pulling in the much less than it used to make.

As for why they axed him who knows. A good theory I saw is that they are merging soon with another company and hoping to be in the Trump admins good graces when it goes up for approval. It’s a merger that probably really shouldn’t be approved regardless but we will see if it works.
 
UberHere said:
Sorry Colbert getting shit canned is hurting feelings. Actually I’m not sorry.
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“NO, ITS YOUR FEELINGS THAT ARE HURT!!1!!1!!”

Mensa tier burn.

Sorry, we aren’t going to stop talking about the Epstein files. Actually I’m not sorry.
 
Blayt7hh said:
I don’t believe they would have waited this long to axe him if they were losing that much money in revenue.
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They've been discussing the future of the show for longer than a few days. Networks will also give a lot of rope to shows with cast members(or in this case a host) that they've given stupid amounts of money to, in hopes it will turn around, since they're on the hook for that money, regardless.
Blayt7hh said:
As for why they axed him who knows. A good theory I saw is that they are merging soon with another company and hoping to be in the Trump admins good graces when it goes up for approval. It’s a merger that probably really shouldn’t be approved regardless but we will see if it works.
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Well, they're getting rid of the entire show, and getting out of the Late Night game altogether. If it was all about Colbert, they would just get rid of him and keep the show. Don't forget that they axed the "Late Late Show" not too long ago as well. It's a different era, and Late Night shows are watched by an ever shrinking demo of boomers.

For that conspiracy theory to add up, you'd have to imagine that they'd need to get rid of any and all anti-Trump elements of their network, which would include a lot of their pundits and news anchors. Margaret Brennen for instance, is quite the propagandist herself, and they're not shutting her up. Also, why would they allow him to stay on the air for another year, if that was their concern? An even more unhinged version of him, no less? They'd just fire him outright, and make him go through the courts to get him what he is owed, if they really wanted him out because he might fuck up some deal.

Sometimes it really is the simplest answer. He cost too much, and Late Night Shows are a dying breed. The reaper is coming for Kimmel and Fallon all the same, I'd wager.
 
HereticBD said:
I got 1.5 billion reasons why they won't be.
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Seems like you will be proven correct if Trump takes South Park on the chin (it's purely about money).

If he moves to block the merger because of this, I think the left will actually have a case.
 
Soggust said:
Seems like you will be proven correct if Trump takes South Park on the chin (it's purely about money).

If he moves to block the merger because of this, I think the left will actually have a case.
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The merger isn't exactly a slam dunk, and would meet hurdles regardless of who was charged with approving it. Any reason it would be blocked, would not be because of South Park, officially or unofficially. That's silly.

Trump has also been taking it on chin from South Park for a decade already. Mr. Garrison was Trump, and he wasn't exactly painted in a good light. Same with when they briefly portrayed an obvious Trump character as the Canadian leader(who got fucked to death by Garrison's Trump). They have not exactly been kind to him over the years.
 
HereticBD said:
The merger isn't exactly a slam dunk, and would meet hurdles regardless of who was charged with approving it. Any reason it would be blocked, would not be because of South Park, officially or unofficially. That's silly.

Trump has also been taking it on chin from South Park for a decade already. Mr. Garrison was Trump, and he wasn't exactly painted in a good light. Same with when they briefly portrayed an obvious Trump character as the Canadian leader(who got fucked to death by Garrison's Trump). They have not exactly been kind to him over the years.
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I actually admit I think that's a fair take - to say it can't be the smoking gun, by itself. You're right.

But then I would instinctually go further to ask if Trump implying that he was influential (a la the Tonight show hosts) would sway you, but I anticipate you will reply that he never actually admitted verbatim that he had a part, just merely celebrated and suggested the others were next to come without any provable malice.

Therefore, I don't know that there is a bar (short of maybe Trump directly admitting that he was strong-arming the deal) that would convince you he was involved.


But we will see how he responds. I assume he will at least call it a "washed up" show or something and, again, if he moves on, I think you are demonstrably right about the deal. If he comes out talking shit on twitter and threatening that the deal might not go through, perhaps it's not a smoking gun, but that would be really damning imo.
 
HereticBD said:
They've been discussing the future of the show for longer than a few days. Networks will also give a lot of rope to shows with cast members(or in this case a host) that they've given stupid amounts of money to, in hopes it will turn around, since they're on the hook for that money, regardless.

Well, they're getting rid of the entire show, and getting out of the Late Night game altogether. If it was all about Colbert, they would just get rid of him and keep the show. Don't forget that they axed the "Late Late Show" not too long ago as well. It's a different era, and Late Night shows are watched by an ever shrinking demo of boomers.

For that conspiracy theory to add up, you'd have to imagine that they'd need to get rid of any and all anti-Trump elements of their network, which would include a lot of their pundits and news anchors. Margaret Brennen for instance, is quite the propagandist herself, and they're not shutting her up. Also, why would they allow him to stay on the air for another year, if that was their concern? An even more unhinged version of him, no less? They'd just fire him outright, and make him go through the courts to get him what he is owed, if they really wanted him out because he might fuck up some deal.

Sometimes it really is the simplest answer. He cost too much, and Late Night Shows are a dying breed. The reaper is coming for Kimmel and Fallon all the same, I'd wager.
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It’s not really a conspiracy theory. It’s not like I have accused them of some evil or even illegal reason for ending the show. The only reason I even brought it up because your answer doesn’t add up. Losing 50 million is not an obvious explanation as I do t believe that they would let it run that long. I mean they’re letting it run another year on its fumes allegedly so you’re telling me they’re willing to lose 100m plus by the time all is said and done? Nah that ain’t it.
 
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