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International Canadian Liberals confusingly scrap carbon tax they created

ColemanwastheGOAT said:
I'm not a big fan either. 'Cut corporate tax rates' is not interesting to me.

'Scrap the income tax?' Now you have my attention.

End crown corporations, open up crown lands to development, and if Canadians are really too dumb to realize the benefits of simply joining the US, then let's at least join an EU type agreement with them. Free trade and free movement between the two member states.
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Recently polling has shown that Canadians are considerably more favorable to the idea of joining the EU than they are joining into a similar agreement with the US.

This is despite the fact that countries in the EU only get a certain amount of votes, Canada would lose much more sovereignty by joining the EU where they would be 1 voice out of 28 countries. Imagine being brainwashed to the point where you think that is a better option than working with the US, like we have for our entire existence just because of one senile president.
Ares Black said:
No, it shows that I am taking the situation seriously. I don't think the sovereignty of Canada is something to play games about.

Poilievre is a Trump ally who refuses to get his security clearance for some unknown reason.

The fact that he even has a chance to be the next PM is a damning indictment of conservative voters in Canada. They would sell out their own country to own the libs.
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Ares Black said:
Imagine believing Pierre Poilievre
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You know Tom Mulcair the leader of your precious NDP party did the exact same thing, and has said multiple times this is a non issue and a weak attack from the Liberals/NDP




Ares Black said:
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Current projections have it as a 55% chance of a Liberal victory and rising.

Fortunately it seems that Trump's reckless and disrespectful behaviour has woken up Canadian voters.

Pierre Poilievre is not the man for this moment in history. And he will be remembered as a footnote.
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Crazy how Canadians are waking up, by supporting the Liberals for stealing the conservatives policies. That's not waking up, that's being asleep at the wheel, not bothering to read past a headline.
Ares Black said:
I am aware of Poilievre's excuse. It's not credible, because he is not credible.
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If that is true then that would make you a hypocrite for being a life long NDP support considering they did the same thing.
rikibobby said:
So you distrust PP because of this, but you trust a government that:
- expelled Chinese lab scientists with zero explanation and then when smoke was present said "nothing to see here, except these heavily redacted documents we can't reveal in the name of national security"
- kept foreign interference a secret from the PC Mp's who were targeted, and then when the smoke really started appointed an ally to investigate who has since completely tarnished his legacy by towing the party line.
- accused Admiral Norman of violating procurement procedures, but when the smoke started, dropped the charges and then paid for his silence
- handed contacts to good old friends the WE charity
- brought a literal Nazi onto the parliament floor without vetting lol
- awarded arrived and app at astronomical cost with zero results. Have awarded numerous contracts to same greasy contractors.

That is worthy of trust and your vote, but Pierre bad, very bad.
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Those things are only bad when a conservative does them. If it's a liberal policy its a good thing, even when they are stolen from a conservative and we called them a bad policy.
 
rearnakedchoke said:
Funny how his supporters aren’t saying shit about it.
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Excuse my interjection. It looks to me like Pollievre doesn't get his security clearance because it would be on condition that he sign a nondisclosure agreement, which would prevent him from asking the questions that he can otherwise freely ask, otherwise known as being an effective leader of the opposition.
 
We're going to introduce a carbon tax!
- That's a stupid idea.

Yes, but we're doing it anyways. Sorry.

Shit, this ain't working, we should scrap it.

- Losers. Can even make up your own minds? Ha ha.

Does getting rid of the tax help most people and business?

-Yes, but I need a reason to complain, so he we are.

To be fair, I think most Canadians are fucked regardless of which party takes power. Upper class is alright. Everyone else will feel it.
 
gatchaman said:
Excuse my interjection. It looks to me like Pollievre doesn't get his security clearance because it would be on condition that he sign a nondisclosure agreement, which would prevent him from asking the questions that he can otherwise freely ask, otherwise known as being an effective leader of the opposition.
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That is what he says, but intelligence leaders of the past have said that it’s not a valid reason and he should get the clearance.
 
rearnakedchoke said:
That is what he says, but intelligence leaders of the past have said that it’s not a valid reason and he should get the clearance.
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Does the Hunter laptop story have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation? That's what 51 intelligence officials wrote. And yet, here you are trotting out the same tired argument that we should let intelligence leaders, even unnamed intelligence leaders, do our thinking for us. Does the security clearance have a nondisclosure precondition?
 
rearnakedchoke said:
Yes. Some group named diagolon. The leader of that group. He denounced what the guy said, but some time later was seen chumming around the ilk and supporters.
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I just looked into it. Looks like Pierre and the Diagolon guy shook hands at a conservative event in 2022. Then last year the guy got drunk on a stream and said he wanted to bang Pierre's wife. Then Pierre denounced them and told RCMP to investigate the guy.

As much as I wish Pierre was a crypto far right guy the only thing about him that seems to be right wing is that he is anti-tranny. Otherwise just a Bidenesque soulless centrist.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
First off, I wouldn't have yet another Frenchman running it.
But just look at their official platform. I'm the first vice things are all social shit.


Pipeline's are like number 6 on their platform.

Their priorities are all out of whack.
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Looks perfect for me. We are fighting for the soul of our people. When the Soviet Union collapsed they were 3rd world levels of poor, but Moscow was still Russian, Vilnius still Lithuanian, etc. Also there's a ton of overlap of course as the housing issue is linked to immigration.
 
Kassitus said:
I just looked into it. Looks like Pierre and the Diagolon guy shook hands at a conservative event in 2022. Then last year the guy got drunk on a stream and said he wanted to bang Pierre's wife. Then Pierre denounced them and told RCMP to investigate the guy.

As much as I wish Pierre was a crypto far right guy the only thing about him that seems to be right wing is that he is anti-tranny. Otherwise just a Bidenesque soulless centrist.
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After that, he was asked if he supports them, and instead of saying they are vile shitheads, he said he has never heard of them before. Seems like a cop out to not piss them off further.
 
gatchaman said:
Excuse my interjection. It looks to me like Pollievre doesn't get his security clearance because it would be on condition that he sign a nondisclosure agreement, which would prevent him from asking the questions that he can otherwise freely ask, otherwise known as being an effective leader of the opposition.
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Then why has no leader of the opposition ever refused before?
 
Kassitus said:
I just looked into it. Looks like Pierre and the Diagolon guy shook hands at a conservative event in 2022. Then last year the guy got drunk on a stream and said he wanted to bang Pierre's wife.
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*Rape his wife. Be accurate.
Kassitus said:
Then Pierre denounced them and told RCMP to investigate the guy.
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Except that he was seen meeting with them at a rally in 2024.
Kassitus said:
As much as I wish Pierre was a crypto far right guy the only thing about him that seems to be right wing is that he is anti-tranny. Otherwise just a Bidenesque soulless centrist.
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Lol. Ok.
 
Ares Black said:
Uh, whut?
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The line of thinking you are promoting is: Every politician should do exactly what his predecessors did.

Pierre Pollievre should get security clearance because his predecessors did.

Trudeau and Singh shouldn't have instituted a carbon tax because their predecessors didn't.
 
gatchaman said:
The line of thinking you are promoting is: Every politician should do exactly what his predecessors did.
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That is not at all my line of thinking.
gatchaman said:
Pierre Pollievre should get security clearance because his predecessors did.
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No, he should get security clearance because it is sketchy as fuck that he is refusing.
gatchaman said:
Trudeau and Singh shouldn't have instituted a carbon tax because their predecessors didn't.
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What a bizarre non sequitur
 
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