International Canadian Liberals confusingly scrap carbon tax they created

[Ares Black]

Scraping the tax and gutting cabinet are smart conservative policies. Call a spade of spade even if they're Liberals the crux lays in if he's just pandering to Conservative voters until an election is over or is he actually going to run small government policies? Dangerous game because he needs to keep siphoning NDP voters and he's banking on them being too stupid to know what fiscally conservative policies are.

I dislike Liberals but Carney is looking like he's targeting increasing FDI and domestic productivity and that's going to take some fiscally conservative policy which is what we do desperately need.

However no platforms are released yet so it all remains conjecture shrouded in politicking

I many ways Carney is more conservative than Poilievre. He's certainly a lot more qualified.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

The Liberal's problem is trust in general. A nine year nose dive in damn near everything, ain't ideal. They really have nothing, and ironically enough, much like the US election, they're gonna be left with running on "Trump bad", and try to paint PP as Trump. That's literally all they have to run on.

Agreed. It's actually shocking how badly Trudeau has fucked this country up.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I many ways Carney is more conservative than Poilievre. He's certainly a lot more qualified.

Well like I said there's no platforms from anyone released yet. So we don't know scope but Carney and PP are going to have to overlap a lot. But Poilievre has been in Federal goverment for 21 years, was a long standing PS, was in a cabinet position and shadow minister for last few years and he's only 45. So he's actually pretty qualified and has accomplished a lot from a young start. (unless only bankers and economists are qualified).

 

[Ares Black]

Well like I said there's no platforms from anyone released yet. So we don't know scope but Carney and PP are going to have to overlap a lot. But Poilievre has been in Federal goverment for 21 years, was a long standing PS, was in a cabinet position and shadow minister for last few years and he's only 45. So he's actually pretty qualified and has accomplished a lot from a young start. (unless only bankers and economists are qualified).

He's never had a real job and refuses to get his security clearance.

 

[jimjamjammer]

Not even a pause, are all the Liberals celebrating illiterate? Every news site that has reported it says the "consumer portion" of the tax has been eliminated.

I think so. He's yet to explain how that is supposed to work. I guess people think only the businesses will pay and not pass it on?

 

[tastaylvr]

It’s funny watching Canadian trumpers begging for America to invade hate on their liberals for using the same tactics as American republicans. You can’t make this shit up.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

He's never had a real job and refuses to get his security clearance.

The funny part is Pierre is crying that carney hasn’t released his financial records. I think he should, but for a guy who doesn’t want to get security clearance he really needs to shut the fuck up. It’s funny how his fan boys won’t even bring this up.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

He's never had a real job and refuses to get his security clearance.

He's been a political junkie since his teens. He became the leader of the young alliance club in his first year, worked his school paper political publication and started a political research, analytics and polling firm at 23. Then he got elected at 23/24. Am I supposed to begrudge a politician for being passionate from a young age? Ok, sure private experience helps but this guys has been focused on this route since he was a minor. Good for him; how many people be what they wanted to be as a kid?

As far as the security clearance, I find his point valid. You are hand cuffed of what you can argue in parliament if you're privy to classified information. Election interference accusations are something the leader of the opposition should be bringing up in parliament sessions and the ability to push for probes and backchecks becomes a nebulous area when can't share classified intelligence; and talking about them becomes a conflict of interest.

 

[jlagman]

He's been a political junkie since his teens. He became the leader of the young alliance club in his first year, worked his school paper political publication and started a political research, analytics and polling firm at 23. Then he got elected at 23/24. Am I supposed to begrudge a politician for being passionate from a young age? Ok, sure private experience helps but this guys has been focused on this route since he was a minor. Good for him; how many people be what they wanted to be as a kid?

As far as the security clearance, I find his point valid. You are hand cuffed of what you can argue in parliament if you're privy to classified information. Election interference accusations are something the leader of the opposition should be bringing up in parliament sessions and the ability to push for probes and backchecks becomes a nebulous area when can't share classified intelligence; and talking about them becomes a conflict of interest.

For a party that ran on transparency, the Liberals seem to be doing everything in their power to prevent it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

For a party that ran on transparency, the Liberals seem to be doing everything in their power to prevent it.

Liberals ran a master class on towing party lines until the moment it sank you. But that's the problem with new parliamentary mantra...your electoral district doesn't matter as much as ensuring you don't piss off the leaders. But that's a two headed coin, voters stop caring about their specific MP's long ago. Kind of crazy considering Greens have shown that homegrown grassroot canadiates can make dominate splashes as seen in Guelph and Kitchener

 

[jlagman]

Lol at Canada. TS is absolute comedy.

"This tax is terrible. Get rid of it!"

-Ok, we're going to get rid of it.

"Fuck you, retard! How dare you get rid of the tax so I can't sit in my bunker all day and scream at you!"

It's more like,

Liberals after first and only majority, "We're so awesome, Sunny ways!"

Support decreases and have to be propped up by another party, "This is fine, we're basically the same party, anyways."

Support takes a nosedive, "Quick, replace the leader of the party and steal the Opposition's ideas in order to desperately cling onto power."

 

[Ares Black]

He's been a political junkie since his teens. He became the leader of the young alliance club in his first year, worked his school paper political publication and started a political research, analytics and polling firm at 23. Then he got elected at 23/24. Am I supposed to begrudge a politician for being passionate from a young age? Ok, sure private experience helps but this guys has been focused on this route since he was a minor. Good for him; how many people be what they wanted to be as a kid?

As far as the security clearance, I find his point valid. You are hand cuffed of what you can argue in parliament if you're privy to classified information. Election interference accusations are something the leader of the opposition should be bringing up in parliament sessions and the ability to push for probes and backchecks becomes a nebulous area when can't share classified intelligence; and talking about them becomes a conflict of interest.

I am suspicious of anyone who decides to be a career politician at any age.

And I don't trust Poilievre, at all. I think he is completely and totally full of shit.

 

[Ares Black]

It's more like,

Liberals after first and only majority, "We're so awesome, Sunny ways!"

Support decreases and have to be propped up by another party, "This is fine, we're basically the same party, anyways."

Lol. No.

Support takes a nosedive, "Quick, replace the leader of the party and steal the Opposition's ideas in order to desperately cling onto power."

Without an assist from Donald Trump, even replacing Trudeau would have done fuck all, they were dead in the water.

If the Liberals get reelected, be sure to thank Trump for that.

 

[jlagman]

Lol. No.

Without an assist from Donald Trump, even replacing Trudeau would have done fuck all, they were dead in the water.

If the Liberals get reelected, be sure to thank Trump for that.

Believe me, I'm aware.

But it also means Liberals have nothing to offer; they had to hijack the Opposition's ideas to remain relevant, which also makes them untrustworthy. They're just capitalizing on all of the dumb fucks who, just a few years ago, considered the Canadian flag to be "racist" and a symbol of hate, but are now wrapping themselves in it because, "Orange man bad".

 

[Ares Black]

Believe me, I'm aware.

But it also means Liberals have nothing to offer; they had to hijack the Opposition's ideas to remain relevant, which also makes them untrustworthy. They're just capitalizing on all of the dumb fucks who, just a few years ago, considered the Canadian flag to be "racist" and a symbol of hate, but are now wrapping themselves in it because, "Orange man bad".

The Libs never have anything to offer but the status quo. But in uncertain times like this I guess people crave stability and predictability. And Pierre Poilievre is a truly terrible candidate for the current situation. He doesn't inspire any confidence.

 

[jlagman]

The Libs never have anything to offer but the status quo. But in uncertain times like this I guess people crave stability and predictability. And Pierre Poilievre is a truly terrible candidate for the current situation. He doesn't inspire any confidence.

The last 9 years were "status quo"? They've had to backtrack their most unpopular policies and hijack Conservative ones to avoid getting obliterated in the next election, but were accidentally and miraculously saved by Trump. They only care about retaining control and have not demonstrated that they will be accountable if gifted a fourth term.

 

[no fat chicks]

Weird and kind of pathetic move here by our new PM. His party introduced the carbon tax in 2018 and now they want our thanks for cancelling it?

Classic big government 'we break it so we can fix it' mentality.

I guess the libs are getting desperate leading up to the shellacking they're about to take in the election.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-drops-carbon-tax-1.7484290

"This will make a difference to hard-pressed Canadians" said Carney, which is a weird thing to say about a tax you voted for and your party implemented...

It was a conservative solution you know