International Canadian Election Results Start to Come Through: 'The 51st State' Edition

[rikibobby]

It crossed his mind, that is why he begged for a place that was 82% conservative. How brave.

Nepean was a pretty safe liberal riding where the candidate got the boot. Who replaced him again?

 

[rikibobby]

If they try to force an early election they'll do even worse than they did this time. Except the other parties won't let them anyway.

Conservatives are conservative. A new election could see a resurgence in other parties, which would be bad for liberals.

Who gives a fuck though. It’s Carney’s turn to shine. They are gonna let it ride for a while and Carney is being very good so far. Maybe he’ll bring it all back together. I am optimistic.

Anything is better than Trudeau.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Nepean was a pretty safe liberal riding where the candidate got the boot. Who replaced him again?

Taking over from a guy who is about to get ousted from the party isn’t the same as taking over from a guy who just won the seat with 82% of the vote.

 

[Koro_11]

Poilievre sucks and democracy prevailed. Poilievre uses rhetoric and a style that imitates Trump, which is political kryptonite in this country, and he was too arrogant to pivot. He was ahead by a wide margin as recent as December, and the win was his to take, but he whiffed on a wide open net.

Carney is not Trudeau. Trudeau sucked when it came to the economy and I said he was done when the 2023 budget didn't include any meaningful investments in housing (even though the cities and provinces have more of a say in that). Carney's resumé is outstanding even compared to any leader of G7 country. I think Canadians understand Trump's threats not only affect the nation's sovereignty, but economic viability which would excacerbate affordability. Given his resumé on crisis management, he was the easy choice. Now contrast that with Poilievre who has no real world experience, and his record as an MP is considerably weak.



I'm sorry for your loss. It's easy to blame politicians for the deaths of loved ones but it's irrational. Me voting for Carney doesn't make me evil, but you're emotional so I don't think I'll move the needle with you on that.

Yeah, Trudeau sucked when it came to the economy.

Remind me again who was his economic advisor?

 

[Siver!]

Yeah, Trudeau sucked when it came to the economy.

Remind me again who was his economic advisor?

Remind us again when he became economic advisor?

Was it September 2024?

 

[Andy Capp]

Yeah, Trudeau sucked when it came to the economy.

Remind me again who was his economic advisor?

When Harper was in charge why is it he never chose little PP for Finance Minister?

 

[Koro_11]

When Harper was in charge why is it he never chose little PP for Finance Minister?

Probably because when Harper took office Pierre was like 25 years old.

 

[rikibobby]

When Harper was in charge why is it he never chose little PP for Finance Minister?

He should have. Pp was the only person in Canada who perfectly predicted (on video tons of times) exactly what transpired over the past 4 years with regards to inflation and the economy. What an dummy eh. Glad we listened to the elite bankers.

You really are a fucking idiot.

 

[Damien Karras]

Yeah, Trudeau sucked when it came to the economy.

Remind me again who was his economic advisor?

It's known that Trudeau had a particular vision for the economy that he wanted to implement. The reason Freeland quit as Finance Minister was because she resisted too much of what he wanted in the budgets, and he was going to put someone who shared his vision.

Trudeau has multiple other advisors over the years such as Sean Mullin and Tyler Meredith. But it all comes down to the PM.

Carney's role as advisor was formalized in September 2024. So to blame him for everything in years prior is either due to lack of knowledge or being disingenuous.

 

[Damien Karras]

Go ahead, refute everything I said put your money where your mouth is.

Carney can announce all he wants, he is on record stating he will not repeal the bills I mentioned because that would be a violation of the rights of citizens, what a joke.

The Liberals have a very very long list of failed promises, why would anyone believe a promise that is a 180 on every previous policy. You can play this Carney isn't Trudeau game all you want, but the reality is that is the same party, composed of 95% of the same people that ran on a platform that was tabled before Carney was ever selected as PM. The idea that simply changing the leader will completely change the direction of the party is just false.

Have you been to Edmonton ? It's called Stabmonton for a reason, people are afraid to use public transit because of so many assaults and murders on the LRT system, everything I mentioned was a RANDOM attack on an innocent person so FUCK YOU for that comment.

It's double whammy effect in edmonton as the police have taken a hands off approach due to woke city council massive defunding during 21 22 23

It's the same party with different leadership, and leadership can dramatically change a party. Look at what Trump did to the Republicans. The Liberal party under Trudeau was not the same as the Chrétien's Liberals. Come on man.

And GOD FORBID he respects human rights!!!! Listen to yourself man. Can you imagine how inefficient he would be if he were to introduce crime reform with anti-constitutional measures like the kind proposed by the Conservatives?

Liberals did fail on their promises. Boo hoo. Name me one administration that delivers on all their promises. Oh yeah, here is one: Donald Trump and his team of incompetent sycophants. And you know how that is going.

No I have not been to Edmonton and I have no interest in going. It sounds like I would be dodging bullets if I go though, from the sounds of it. Come on man, it's not Liberia.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

No productivity growth in 4 years. Abysmal GDP growth. Highest household debt to gdp ratio in the G7, terrible FDI, crappy innovation index, crappy unemployment numbers; lack of consumer and investor confidence.

Got have hope that Carney being economist will do whatever it takes to reverse the dog shit decade of Trudy just from a sense of professional pride. Really want to see him open up mineral exploration; reduce top level taxes, expand TFSA contributions, and reduce gap gain taxation. Trudy may have forced Carney into conservative economic realms

 

[Koro_11]

It's known that Trudeau had a particular vision for the economy that he wanted to implement. The reason Freeland quit as Finance Minister was because she resisted too much of what he wanted in the budgets, and he was going to put someone who shared his vision.

Trudeau has multiple other advisors over the years such as Sean Mullin and Tyler Meredith. But it all comes down to the PM.

Carney's role as advisor was formalized in September 2024. So to blame him for everything in years prior is either due to lack of knowledge or being disingenuous.

I’ll be happy if I’m proven wrong, but I’m not very optimistic about carbon tax Carney.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

@JudoThrowFiasco @Ares Black werent you guys arguing in a thread in March about whether Carney would scrap this program after he had no use of the NDP anymore?

 

[Ares Black]

@JudoThrowFiasco @Ares Black werent you guys arguing in a thread in March about whether Carney would scrap this program after he had no use of the NDP anymore?

I wouldn't say we were arguing.


He said the Libs would scrap it and I said lol obviously not. That was about the extent of it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

@JudoThrowFiasco @Ares Black werent you guys arguing in a thread in March about whether Carney would scrap this program after he had no use of the NDP anymore?

Still have my doubts since this is still the previous phase in timeline of the trudeau era. I didn't think he would scrap it right away, but imo it will be on the cutting block next few years.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

I wouldn't say we were arguing.


He said the Libs would scrap it and I said lol obviously not. That was about the extent of it.

This is the War Room. Is any kind of discourse possible here besides arguing?

 

[Lycandroid]

It's the same party with different leadership, and leadership can dramatically change a party. Look at what Trump did to the Republicans. The Liberal party under Trudeau was not the same as the Chrétien's Liberals. Come on man.

And GOD FORBID he respects human rights!!!! Listen to yourself man. Can you imagine how inefficient he would be if he were to introduce crime reform with anti-constitutional measures like the kind proposed by the Conservatives?

Liberals did fail on their promises. Boo hoo. Name me one administration that delivers on all their promises. Oh yeah, here is one: Donald Trump and his team of incompetent sycophants. And you know how that is going.

No I have not been to Edmonton and I have no interest in going. It sounds like I would be dodging bullets if I go though, from the sounds of it. Come on man, it's not Liberia.

I thought you were going to refute everything I said ? You refuted nothing.

Of course the Chretien Liberals and the Trudeau Liberals aren't the same party, they were separated by 20 years end to end and shared very very few cabinet members.

This cabinet consists of almost entirely the same people as the Trudeau government, Carney ran on a platform that was tabled before he was selected.

Since when is it a human right to commit a violent crime and then be out on bail the same day ? Since when is it a human right to be given house arrest rather than a prison sentence because the government doesn't want to spend the money ? Since when is it a human right to get lenient sentences for being a minority ?

Did the Liberals care about human rights when they envoked the emergencies act on peaceful protestors ? Did the Liberals care about human rights when they mandated the covid vaccine forcing people to choose between there jobs, and the own health ? I couldn't get an exemption despite already having had pericarditis previously.

Tell me if using the not withstanding clause to protect citizens from violent criminals is out of the question when should it be used if ever ? Why is it a measure in the first place if it's unconstitutional ?

What I could imagine in that scenario is a lot less dead Canadians. A lot less victims of crime and return to justice for them, instead of a perpetual cycle of wrist slapping.

 

[Andy Capp]

I thought you were going to refute everything I said ? You refuted nothing.

Of course the Chretien Liberals and the Trudeau Liberals aren't the same party, they were separated by 20 years end to end and shared very very few cabinet members.

This cabinet consists of almost entirely the same people as the Trudeau government, Carney ran on a platform that was tabled before he was selected.

Since when is it a human right to commit a violent crime and then be out on bail the same day ? Since when is it a human right to be given house arrest rather than a prison sentence because the government doesn't want to spend the money ? Since when is it a human right to get lenient sentences for being a minority ?

Did the Liberals care about human rights when they envoked the emergencies act on peaceful protestors ? Did the Liberals care about human rights when they mandated the covid vaccine forcing people to choose between there jobs, and the own health ? I couldn't get an exemption despite already having had pericarditis previously.

Tell me if using the not withstanding clause to protect citizens from violent criminals is out of the question when should it be used if ever ? Why is it a measure in the first place if it's unconstitutional ?

What I could imagine in that scenario is a lot less dead Canadians. A lot less victims of crime and return to justice for them, instead of a perpetual cycle of wrist slapping.

What you could imagine lkely depends a lot on what drugs you're on.

Leaving aside all this opining, how about we address the news today that when Danielle Smith went to Mar a Lago to suck Trump's weenis, she brought her buddies and cost the taxpayer $10,000 for a two day junket?

 

[therealdope]

The reason Freeland quit as Finance Minister was because she resisted too much of what he wanted in the budgets, and he was going to put someone who shared his vision.

WTF?

I'm no fan of Freeland but she was right in this case.

She quit because he shoved a $60B deficit in her lap with ridiculous policies going forward, and then told her to go fall on the sword and that he would fire her immediately thereafter.

 

[Damien Karras]

WTF?

I'm no fan of Freeland but she was right in this case.

She quit because he shoved a $60B deficit in her lap with ridiculous policies going forward, and then told her to go fall on the sword and that he would fire her immediately thereafter.

I agree 100% with you, I just worded it differently