International Can we have a "strict" society here in America?

[F1980]

Seems like all the best countries in the world, ones that have the lowest crime rates and have the best social welfare programs, have extremely strict societies. Such as Japan and Switzerland.

Is it possible to have such strict rules implemented here in the US?

 

[fingercuffs]

Seems like all the best countries in the world, ones that have the lowest crime rates and have the best social welfare programs, have extremely strict societies. Such as Japan and Switzerland.

Is it possible to have such strict rules implemented here in the US?

Switzerland needs to sort its roads and air con out.

 

[avenue94]

Depends what aspect of society. Freedom of speech? Most likely not. But American society is much stricter on sexuality and social mores related to it than a lot of other countries. Same with corruption (Americans tend to view it more through moral lenses than other countries, even if both populations oppose it).

 

[Hellowhosthat]

No, freedom is meant to be one of the core tenets of America.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Not here in the USA. Too many libturds make a living off of being offended. Being strict would hurt their feelings.

 

[moreorless87]

I think you could argue in the US a lot of the stuff described at the start of that video does happen within planned/gated communities just enforced by contract and private security.

I feel like in some of the examples mentioned as well you maybe have factors which stop a "strict" society from shifting into authoritarian oppression. The Swiss position next to several other great powers has tended to mean they remain neutral and the Japanese post WW2 are under strong US influence.

 

[Poon Goon]

Not here in the USA. Too many libturds make a living off of being offended. Being strict would hurt their feelings.

You should stick to lurking because you never make any fucking sense when you actually speak up.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Not here in the USA. Too many libturds make a living off of being offended. Being strict would hurt their feelings.

Is the right wing position to want Draconian authoritarianism? That seems retarded.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Not a chance.

We would break the rules just because we can. We are founded on rebellious attitudes and have too much diversity. More in how we want to live, and not race. Can't see how it would work.

 

[AbominableJoman]

You should stick to lurking because you never make any fucking sense when you actually speak up.

All you do is cry. I don’t think Ive ever seen you actually address the thread topic. Go cry more gramps. lol

 

[AbominableJoman]

Is the right wing position to want Draconian authoritarianism? That seems retarded.

No, where did you hear that? Seems like a fucking stupid thing to say without evidence.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

No, where did you hear that.l? Seems like a fucking stupid thing to say without evidence.

Well I figured if the left wing position was not wanting things to be strict then the opposite position would be wanting things to be strict. My apologies if not.

 

[nostradumbass]

No. We can't even tell perverts to stop trying to have secret sex talks with little kids that they want kept secret from the parents or have any control over immigration without social parasites screaming "fascism".

As Jon Stewart said, living in absolute filth with junkies taking a shit on the sidewalk and hobos passed out on subway cars "is the literal price of freedom".

 

[nostradumbass]

Is the right wing position to want Draconian authoritarianism? That seems retarded.

Do you think there might be a little bit of area in between "muh Draconian authoritarianism" and having creeps twerking on little kids in public and bums shooting smack in the middle of the street?

TS gave examples of countries, so if you consider Japan and Switzerland, or basically any functional country "Draconian authoritarianism", then I guess yes?

 

[AbominableJoman]

Well I figured if the left wing position was not wanting things to be strict then the opposite position would be wanting things to be strict. My apologies if not.

Yeah, assumptions aren’t always a good thing. Also, you said “Draconian authoritarianism” before, not strict.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Do you think there might be a little bit of area in between "muh Draconian authoritarianism" and having creeps twerking on little kids in public and bums shooting smack in the middle of the street?

TS gave examples of countries, so if you consider Japan and Switzerland, or basically any functional country "Draconian authoritarianism", then I guess yes?

I'm afraid I immediately dismiss any post that uses muh or the typing in caps and small letters things or anything else that comes from Reddit

 

[nostradumbass]

I'm afraid I immediately dismiss any post that uses muh or the typing in caps and small letters things or anything else that comes from Reddit

Can't say I blame you for trying to "dismiss" any follow up to your embarrassing post.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Not sure I would call Japan a strict society. There's just a social code that people adhere to which is to really consider others in your actions. It's not like you are gonna get caned for misbehaving; they are actually very good at tolerating poor behavior and not lashing out even if upset on the inside.

It's just a high trust society where people are mature and smart enough to appreciate respect, manners etc understand that everyone adhering to ethical societal codes makes for a society greater than the sum of its parts.

It's like the fable(???) about Hunters hunting. If 5 work together, they can catch a giant animal. If they don't, they are reduced to trying to catch smaller animals individually. The bigger prize is the giant animal, but it requires teamwork; if there is low trust, people will break away and fend for themselves.

It's pretty much impossible to implement in the U.S. at this point because U.S. society is dominated by an elite that's played and betrayed their citizens and have them fighting each other. It's a significantly richer country with significantly shorter lifespans and much poorer every day interactions amongst citizens. Low wage workers have to continuously worry about healthcare and if in the service industry getting robbed or fights etc.

Most Western governments have to a larger extent thrown the every day person under the bus -- hence the much shorter life spans. If you aren't doing the upper crust a service in the rest of the west you're pretty much just a burden. That's why billions are put into marketing in the U.S. to make people feel so insecure about themselves and giving everyone a psychological inferiority complex that they try to satisfy through materialism and consumption and consequently interactions are overwhelmingly transactional; and the national past time of ridiculing and insulting others in poor attempts for people to feel better about themselves. To the point of not eating well (obesity from pleb slop) nor sleeping well.

Japan = A society first that has financial markets. USA = Financial markets that has a society tacked on.

Switzerland.... is well... just obscenely rich lol.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Can't say I blame you for trying to "dismiss" any follow up to your embarrassing post.

Sorry buddy get back to me when you're a Sherbro and not a Redditor.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Is the right wing position to want Draconian authoritarianism? That seems retarded.

- Yes. They want less state, by trying to coup fairly elected people, and putting another one in power!