Opinion Can we get a grip on the X (twitter) sources

[PBAC]

So I don't see a rule about using credible sources but the amount of threads that are just random tweets is ridiculous. They are quite literally a shit flinging waste of time and they drag out for pages with not a single person questioning what it is. Sure post some tweet since they can be good for updates but at least attatch a valid news source with some info on context. IDK how this forum is going to handle AI generated news sources.

90 percent are lower than the below rule and just display a tweet from some randomer announcing news to get angry about.

-Don't post a thread with very little in it. A thread containing just a YouTube video or link is likely going to be dumped.

Also idk if it is possible to clarify valid sources for people. There are links getting thrown around from the Sunday world and Daily Express as if they weren't borderline from the Onion.

 

[Renard]

I've tried a few times to find the primary source for content in a Tweet (video, picture, etc) that someone posted and it's nigh impossible. Usually the primary Tweeter doesn't post their source, even if you track it down. So I get it.

However, the issue with the "credible source" logic is that it's mostly an argument to authority. [Blank entity] has a high status, therefore everything they post must be genuine and good. Most the time, large news outlets barely do any research at all and they just copy paste the article from a news agency or another news outlet that first broke the story. Often times the primary source, for example the outlet that first broke the news, doesn't bother posting a source at all. Meanwhile, smaller news operations often do still engage in real investigative journalism, breaking news stories that have never been heard before, but I bet you'd consider them "unreliable" because they don't have a big corporate name behind them. That's why arguments to authority are fallacious. You can't just assume something is well-researched or not well-researched simply based on the perceived status of the organization involved.

 

[Seano]

Don't we already have a stickied thread with the rules in it?

Dump, please.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I saw a thread the other day using Salon as a source and the title of the thread was a complete lie.

 

[AWilder]

So I don't see a rule about using credible sources but the amount of threads that are just random tweets is ridiculous. They are quite literally a shit flinging waste of time and they drag out for pages with not a single person questioning what it is. Sure post some tweet since they can be good for updates but at least attatch a valid news source with some info on context. IDK how this forum is going to handle AI generated news sources.

90 percent are lower than the below rule and just display a tweet from some randomer announcing news to get angry about.

-Don't post a thread with very little in it. A thread containing just a YouTube video or link is likely going to be dumped.

Also idk if it is possible to clarify valid sources for people. There are links getting thrown around from the Sunday world and Daily Express as if they weren't borderline from the Onion.

I only trust Hindustan Times.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

I understand your point. But I still scrutinize everything to a degree anyways. Even if they posted a "source" I'm not just going to believe it on the basis that his info came from another higher "better" authority

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Im with you. Even outside of this forum, the amount of people blindly believing every piece of information they see from people they like on social media is insane. Critical thinking is dead

 

[Kingz]

You’ve made several threads based around MeidasTouch videos

GTFO

 

[PBAC]

I understand your point. But I still scrutinize everything to a degree anyways. Even if they posted a "source" I'm not just going to believe it on the basis that his info came from another higher "better" authority

the problem is that it is done to promote burn out. They say something highly irrational without any merit and then make other people wear themselves out by trying to find if it is true or false. 9/10 the tweets aren't based on anything factual. You can't find something confirming or denying it until it already goes viral and ends up needing to be debunked.

There's still a whole secition of people who still believe the Hollywood sign has burned down.

 

[BFoe]

Thinly veiled @Scerpi hate thread imo.

 

[HereticBD]

They can't all be as reliable as "The Meidas Touch".

 

[Hog-train]

I've tried a few times to find the primary source for content in a Tweet (video, picture, etc) that someone posted and it's nigh impossible. Usually the primary Tweeter doesn't post their source, even if you track it down. So I get it.

However, the issue with the "credible source" logic is that it's mostly an argument to authority. [Blank entity] has a high status, therefore everything they post must be genuine and good. Most the time, large news outlets barely do any research at all and they just copy paste the article from a news agency or another news outlet that first broke the story. Often times the primary source, for example the outlet that first broke the news, doesn't bother posting a source at all. Meanwhile, smaller news operations often do still engage in real investigative journalism, breaking news stories that have never been heard before, but I bet you'd consider them "unreliable" because they don't have a big corporate name behind them. That's why arguments to authority are fallacious. You can't just assume something is well-researched or not well-researched simply based on the perceived status of the organization involved.

This is a good point about the appeal to authority.

We all know traditional media sources also routinely twist and lie too.

The problem with the random Twitter links is that at least those traditional media sources are somewhat held to account while some random Twitter user has zero accountability.

Random Twitter users can much more easily get away with complete fabrications. News sources like TV stations and major publications can get sued for defamation, libel, etc. And a loss of reputation is huge too.

 

[filthybliss]

This is a good point about the appeal to authority.

We all know traditional media sources also routinely twist and lie too.

The problem with the random Twitter links is that at least those traditional media sources are somewhat held to account while some random Twitter user has zero accountability.

Random Twitter users can much more easily get away with complete fabrications. News sources like TV stations and major publications can get sued for defamation, libel, etc. And a loss of reputation is huge too.

Twitter has less words so it’s easier for the MAGA crowd to process. Expecting @Scerpi to read through an article and understand it is like expecting a crippled person to do backflips. Eitherway, Bless that man’s heart.

 

[Scerpi]

Hahaha! Boo hoo bitches



Here’s what you dipshits sound like



Still more credible than 90% of the main stream media

 

[Scerpi]

Y'all are the same assholes who were cheering the banning and censoring of Conversative Sources on Twitter/Facebook/Youtube during COVID.

The banning/censoring of legit Scientists and Doctors who questioned the COVID narrative.

"Private Companies can do what they want!" Yay for you! lol..

You can't fucking stand it that Elon bought Twitter and instantly converted from a Fragile Lefty Safe Space to an open forum with unbated dialogue. Which means you're going to see and hear crazy shit from both sides. But also a ton of debate as well.

If you bitches want protected safe spaces, get your sissy asses to Reddit. Its a bastion of cry babies banning dissenting voices. You'll be able to enjoy your circle jerks there without interruption.

Most of the shit I post from Twitter comes from News Sources, Left and Right. Yeah, I don't mind being called out when it turns to be garbage. I deserve it then. Please do... I don't mind

But most of the time, y'all run into your crawl spaces when I cite several sources backing up an argument. Twitter is just is the easiest way to cite them. I also post a ton of articles.

Shut the fuck up already. Cry more... no one cares.

 

[filthybliss]

Y'all are the same assholes who were cheering the banning and censoring of Conversative Sources on Twitter/Facebook/Youtube during COVID.

The banning/censoring of legit Scientists and Doctors who questioned the COVID narrative.

"Private Companies can do what they want!" Yay for you! lol..

You can't fucking stand it that Elon bought Twitter and instantly converted from a Fragile Lefty Safe Space to an open forum with unbated dialogue. Which means you're going to see and hear crazy shit from both sides. But also a ton of debate as well.

If you bitches want protected safe spaces, get your sissy asses to Reddit. Its a bastion of cry babies banning dissenting voices. You'll be able to enjoy your circle jerks there without interruption.

Most of the shit I post from Twitter comes from News Sources, Left and Right. Yeah, I don't mind being called out when it turns to be garbage. I deserve it then. Please do... I don't mind

But most of the time, y'all run into your crawl spaces when I cite several sources backing up an argument. Twitter is just is the easiest way to cite them. I also post a ton of articles.

Shut the fuck up already. Cry more... no one cares.

Sounds like you need some of these lmaooo

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Mate you make some of the dumbest, least seriously sourced threads in the wr.
you last thread was about trump not understanding some indian reporter.
grandiosely asking for quality sources when you post shit like that is retarded.

 

[Scerpi]

Sounds like you need some of these lmaooo

Hahaha... I'm not the one felt the need to post a thread.

 

[Croo67]

X links display on this forum in a better format than links to websites, which is probably why most people opt for them.

Either way, X being a fair platform now means that mainstream news outlets are being forced to report on issues they previously wouldn't. So your protests really aren't going to stop discussions on issues you'd rather be buried.

 

[PBAC]

Mate you make some of the dumbest, least seriously sourced threads in the wr.
you last thread was about trump not understanding some indian reporter.
grandiosely asking for quality sources when you post shit like that is retarded.

it happened and there was a vid with an article explaining the context. It was a real factual thing that happened. He legit needed to translate English into English. This is the president of the USA not your dad trying to order Chinese takeaway. Your argument would be valid if all I provided was a tweet of someone saying Trump needed an interpretor for English.