International Can someone explain to me what started this whole worldwide immigration crisis?

[Lycandroid]

everyone seems to think THEIR "jews run the world" conspiracy is the correct one.

we get it you secretly hate jews

what you are calling globalism is actually the logical conclusion to capitalism.

no it isn't. It's global communism. Own nothing and be happy = seize ALL of the means of production.

 

[avenue94]

then why are countries taking ever increasing amounts of people who don't work ?

Which countries are that? I can speak mostly to the US, where those people are clearly working and don't have access to welfare, unless legally not allowed to (aka asylum seekers legally can't work at first).

 

[panamaican]

In Europe? Probably the fall out from the Middle East conflicts over the last 20 years. Every time a region gets destabilized, you're going to see increased migration.

In the US? The rate of illegal immigration was pretty much the same since the mid 80s. The messaging definitely changed in the last 5 or so terms. Probably going back to Obama's 2nd term. The far right became much more vocal about illegals. But it wasn't new issue or even an increasing one.

You can see that annual rate of change is never that big. The uptick of messaging at the end of Obama's tenure was probably more about setting the stage for the 2016 election cycle more than a real issue.

 

[panamaican]

then why are countries taking ever increasing amounts of people who don't work ?

You mean "Why are people leaving countries with poor economic opportunity and entering countries with better opportunity?" As he said -- economics.

 

[Croo67]

In Europe? Probably the fall out from the Middle East conflicts over the last 20 years. Every time a region gets destabilized, you're going to see increased migration.

In the US? The rate of illegal immigration was pretty much the same since the mid 80s. The messaging definitely changed in the last 5 or so terms. Probably going back to Obama's 2nd term. The far right became much more vocal about illegals. But it wasn't new issue or even an increasing one.

You can see that annual rate of change is never that big. The uptick of messaging at the end of Obama's tenure was probably more about setting the stage for the 2016 election cycle more than a real issue.

The majority of illegal migrants heading to the UK are from Albania, which is not at war.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

(from the CT content i have consumed) some ppl like Harry Vox seem to focus on exclusively the Js, maybe Black Pilled as well. a lot of most powerful known ppl: Rockafellers (arent Js), old houses of europe, russells, house windsor, walbergs, european royals all mostly not Js.

that said Js over represented in government, banking, media, music industry, movies, academia, activism, big pharma, and politics.

who are the walbergs? you don't mean the wahlbergs like mark wahlberg, do you?

 

[panamaican]

The majority of illegal migrants heading to the UK are from Albania, which is not at war.

War isn't the only way that a region becomes destabilized. Albania was particularly harmed by the pandemic, a massive earthquake and there's an uptick in criminal gangs terrorizing individuals.

But they've been emigrating from Albania since the fall of communism - it's something like 40% of the population has emigrated in the last 30 years.

 

[Croo67]

War isn't the only way that a region becomes destabilized. Albania was particularly harmed by the pandemic, a massive earthquake and there's an uptick in criminal gangs terrorizing individuals.

But they've been emigrating from Albania since the fall of communism - it's something like 40% of the population has emigrated in the last 30 years.

Albanians are top of all crime charts in Britain, even ahead of those from lawless shitholes.

It’s clearly not everyday citizens fleeing from Albania. They are economic migrants; not refugees.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

no it isn't. It's global communism. Own nothing and be happy = seize ALL of the means of production.

That's right, Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE have huge immigrant majority populations because they're so infamously communist.

 

[avenue94]

In Europe? Probably the fall out from the Middle East conflicts over the last 20 years. Every time a region gets destabilized, you're going to see increased migration.

Trumpers are among the worst examples of people who brag about wanting to be a colonial power but as soon as the fruits of colonial or imperial policies literally come home, suddenly it's a problem.

They are economic migrants; not refugees.

Yeah, that describes most immigration ever: economic migrants.

 

[Sinister]

The answer is Imperialism. State Governments acting on behalf of capital interests destabilize regions for resource access and austerity.

 

[Lycandroid]

Which countries are that? I can speak mostly to the US, where those people are clearly working and don't have access to welfare, unless legally not allowed to (aka asylum seekers legally can't work at first).

UK, US, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Germany and France have had this issue for years. You can't claim it's a good thing and and that it doesn't exist at the same time when they numbers have been public for years.

You mean "Why are people leaving countries with poor economic opportunity and entering countries with better opportunity?" As he said -- economics.

No i don't. It doesn't benefit any country to bring in massive amounts of people who are then taking welfare and don't work. That's economics.

That's right, Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE have huge immigrant majority populations because they're so infamously communist.

These countries don't have a massive welfare state and would never dream of letting in people who don't contribute on such a massive scale.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

You don't need conspiracy theories about "globalist agendas" to see a very clear progression of where we started to where we are.

A global economy requires a global market and a global work force. There's no secret hand needed in order for this to happen. It's a natural consequence of capitalism. If economies are what drive nations, then obviously you need people to keep economies going.
Add economic hardships, environmental disasters, and war, and it should be clear where migration is coming from.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

we get it you secretly hate jews

said the dude defending bryce mitchell and elon lol

no it isn't. It's global communism. Own nothing and be happy = seize ALL of the means of production.

communism is when the workers own the means of production. unless the state is made up of the laborers, it's not communism. it's usually state capitalism.

 

[Lycandroid]

said the dude defending bryce mitchell and elon lol

communism is when the workers own the means of production. unless the state is made up of the laborers, it's not communism. it's usually state capitalism.

You do realize just about every communist country that has ever existed had the means of production controlled by the state ?

Also I never defended Bryce Mitchell. I said the UFC should can his ass as there is no benefit to keeping him around.

 

[evergreenrider]

The gates of Toledo being opened.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You do realize just about every communist country that has ever existed had the means of production controlled by the state ?

right it's almost like the things you retards keep calling communism ISN'T communism lmfao

 

[Badr Hari]

Other people have explained it in the thread better who started it, but I would like to underline who are the biggest losers of the shitshow: the countries that lost their people, the emigration countries.

 

[avenue94]

UK, US, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Germany and France have had this issue for years. You can't claim it's a good thing and and that it doesn't exist at the same time when they numbers have been public for years.

Like I said I can really speak mostly to the US. So what's the evidence for all these unemployed immigrants here?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

These countries don't have a massive welfare state and would never dream of letting in people who don't contribute on such a massive scale.

Irrelevant.

The topic at hand is what drives mass migration. By and large, it's the demand for cheap labor and ever-expanding profits that the capitalist system requires.