Can Conor McGregor sell a million PPV vs a MMA fighter without the UFC backing him ?

[Cooliox]

would Conor even get a ppv slot without the UFC's backing?

How is he going to produce the show? Does he have a production team? a broadcasting team? network deals around the globe to complement the ppv slots?

a whole lot of questions to be answered. Conor certainly can't put together a show by himself. He will need to partner with someone, someone who isn't afraid to go against the UFC.

 

[Cooliox]

Let's pretend like I didn't know who Conor was before he set foot in the UFC to talk about your fantasy argument here.

I still would know who he is because he would still be fighting in the UFC, so you're wrong on that part. Once again the UFC have no hype machine, they have the potential to have a great one, but they've never been able to utilize it. You're confusing hype machine with them simply having the largest platform for MMA because they essentially have a monopoly on MMA.

nobody knew who Conor was before he got into the UFC. Maybe a niche European following knew, but that's it.
No one was making threads talking about Conor coming to the UFC, or what Conor could do in the UFC, etc. He made a name for himself in the UFC, not before coming into it.

 

[Based Akali]

nobody knew who Conor was before he got into the UFC. Maybe a niche European following knew, but that's it.
No one was making threads talking about Conor coming to the UFC, or what Conor could do in the UFC, etc. He made a name for himself in the UFC, not before coming into it.

Your point if you even have one? All fighters make their name in the UFC when they make it there, key word they make their names, not the UFC.

How often do you see any threads about any prospect coming into the UFC these days? Very rarely.

 

[stav]

Conor's selling power is 50% due to his dance partner.

He would not sell as many ppv's without a worthy opponent; wether the person was good at trash talking or stoich and reserved.

Right now, he would not sell over 400 if the UFC matched him with a guy like Devin Powell. His opponents had a lot to do with his success: the UFC marketing machine also had a lot to do with his success.

I will also aknowledge that he did his part in prompting himself and fighting well.

Please stop posting


Conor has averaged 1.2 million PPV across 5 fights. Aldo's average was 270k going into the Conor fight...where did the extra 1 million PPVs come from?
Do the math.

 

[Cooliox]

Your point if you even have one? All fighters make their name in the UFC when they make it there, key word they make their names, not the UFC.

wrong. Ronda made her name before entering into the UFC. Nick Diaz made his name before re-entering into the UFC, along with the SF guys, WEC stars, Pride stars, and current Bellator stars...

My point is you're full of shit for acting like you knew who Conor was before he entered the UFC.

Feels like you're just saying stupid shit for attention, since you can't even keep track of your own argument. So I'm not going to bother. peace.

 

[Juventud]

Why dont Conor McGregor fans understand the only reason Conor sells 1.5 million is PPV is because hes being promoted by UFC and fighting with a UFC undercard. I think Conor brings about 500k of them buys himself or less. How much will Conor sell if he fought on a non UFC PPV without a UFC undercard and the UFC brand behind him ? How much PPV would Conor sell against a MMA fighter on PPV without the UFC brand behind him ? Lets see Conor starts his own promotional company and sells his own fights how would he do ? I dont think he would sell well without the UFC brand behind him.

You post like a white belt. Pathetic logic.

Let's add stipulations to Liddell, Tito & Couture's popularity too.
Oh wait they were never big enough to go beyond MMA promotions.

The closest was Anderson vs Roy Jones Jnr.

Conor is way beyond Andersons mainstream appeal.

Do you want to suck the ufcs dick anymore or are you just a Conor hater?
So Conors talking and charisma didn't majorly contribute to him getting Mayweathers attention?

 

[Paladin]

Please stop posting


Conor has averaged 1.2 million PPV across 5 fights. Aldo's average was 270k going into the Conor fight...where did the extra 1 million PPVs come from?
Do the math.

Came mainly from UFC's marketing

 

[BVG]

That would require him to actually come back and fight.

This. I love how these boards assume that's a forgone conclusion

 

[BVG]

Gsp was a manufactured star?

Common theme in all those fighters: winning a lot.

Lol. You said it! 2-1 in his last 3...

 

[technocrat]

If the UFC was so great at promoting they would have had more stars by now... McGregor is brilliant at self-promoting. He sells, because he is Mc Gregor, not because the UFC promoted him so wonderfully. Actually the UFC sucks at creating new stars. Ronda got picked up by the mainstream media, Lesnar was already huge in WWE and Conor pretty much put himself where he is now. UFC just went along for the ride for some extra buys.

 

[stav]

Came mainly from UFC's marketing

Yea well if its all UFC marketing then Y doesn't the UFC market other fighters the same if its that easy to create a PPV star.

Quick bro I think you are onto somthing...send you resume to the UFC....they are hiring a new CEO that will make them billions!

 

[NationWideNinja]

Lol this retarded argument comes back every time. If the UFC has the power to create a Conor type of star, why isnt their roster filled with superstars? Why arent they having mill + ppvs constantly?

Conor is guaranteed 1/1,2 mill ppvs. How much more than that relies on his opponent,backstory, marketing.

 

[scottmushroom]

Its a two way dance, Conor is damn good at self promotion and effectively used the UFC hype machine to put himself out there. At this point (and I can't stand the guy) I do think he would be able to self promote a card with a large number of buys...maybe not a million buys right off the bat but certainly enough to make it worth his while. That being said, nobody would know who the hell Conor is without the UFC. He wouldn't get this level of attention or fame fighting for Bellator or WSOF.

 

[bubby]

Lol. You said it! 2-1 in his last 3...

And 16-1 in 17, 9-1 in the ufc. What a can.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Probably. But most of his fights have been on stacked cards. His last fight did 1.3 with three title fights at msg.

 

[BVG]

And 16-1 in 17, 9-1 in the ufc. What a can.

I certainly think so.

But all this is moot.

He's retired. So why are we even discussing him on an MMA centric website?

 

[Paladin]

Yea well if its all UFC marketing then Y doesn't the UFC market other fighters the same if its that easy to create a PPV star.

Quick bro I think you are onto somthing...send you resume to the UFC....they are hiring a new CEO that will make them billions!

Let me put it this way.. with out Conor, the UFC Might not have sold as many PPV's..without the UFC, Conor is Definitly not selling that many PPV's.
Both parties need each other, Conor more so than the UFC. This is a mutually beneficial relationship. I'm not disputing Conor's star power, I'm simply pointing out that the UFC thrust him into the limelight, and that he was part genius, partly lucky to get the break he got.

Why do other fighters not sell as much? Partly because they are not as good at marketing them selves, and partly due to lack of marketing by the UFC. Name another event that the UFC went all out on, taking a 6+ month tour Across the world.
Not even Ronda got that heavy a push for any of her fights.

 

[capnlarge]

History has shown that people don't buy non-UFC PPVs

 

[stav]

Let me put it this way.. with out Conor, the UFC Might not have sold as many PPV's..without the UFC, Conor is Definitly not selling that many PPV's.
Both parties need each other, Conor more so than the UFC. This is a mutually beneficial relationship. I'm not disputing Conor's star power, I'm simply pointing out that the UFC thrust him into the limelight, and that he was part genius, partly lucky to get the break he got.

Why do other fighters not sell as much? Partly because they are not as good at marketing them selves, and partly due to lack of marketing by the UFC. Name another event that the UFC went all out on, taking a 6+ month tour Across the world.
Not even Ronda got that heavy a push for any of her fights.

I agree with that statement, it's a synergy.