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Seems like it's hard to converse with someone who genuinely listens to what you say nowadays. They're just waiting for their turn to talk or just blurt stuff out and cut you off. Once every now and then I get, but some people just can't help acting like this all the time.

Or you could have a normal conversation with someone in the room. Then someone else feels the need to start another conversation with someone else in the room instead of just waiting until you're done or joining with something relevant, and then it's 2 parties talking over each other the whole time. Pet peeve of mine for sure.

I find the younger generation worse when it comes to this, but people my age (late 30's) and older aren't much better.

How do you react when people do this? If they cut me off repeatedly, then I cut them off mid sentence saying "Yeah bro, I know!" and then walk away. This has been kind of effective at getting some to realize it, but others just get louder and repeat the pattern upon further meetings until they won't talk to me anymore.
 
So i found out i got an extra muscle that pinches a nerve and makes half my hands prone to falling asleep. Not like 1 of the 2 hands, but 50% of each hand, so it still adds up to 1 whole hand.
 
I remember a Bill Clinton, George Bush interview and Bill said something about being the last conversant generation, meaning where people ate around a dinner table and tv or other distractions hadn't screwed us up so bad. I think its very true. My generation was better than the current one but the people in knew that were born in the 20's and 30's were way past all of us.

These kids now? forget it, they can't string a sentence together without stuttering, halting, or saying um's, uhs, they are retarded and it's not even their faults. It's visible with our entertainers, if you look back at our black entertainers of earlier times, guys like cab calloway and duke ellington were eloquent as aristocrats, motown artists, somehow, from inner city detroit and usually one gen removed from the south could speak very well----now, go listen to some rapper being interviewed. We're fucked.

the thing where people interupt, common, most of my friends wanted to do all the talking and interupting and no listening. It's one of the reasons why I don't really talk to them anymore.

I also think all the computers and cell phones have just splintered our attention so bad that we might never get it back together. People looking at their cells in the middle of traffic, people walking with their faces into it. It's one of the biggest problems i see with modern society and no one sees it as a problem until maybe some criminal busts them in their no paying attention head and robs them or they cause a wreck. I know personally that since I started driving delivery, it's gotten harder to concentrate on just one thing because I started getting into the habit of thinking of several things at once, driving, the app, the order, the customer, it's hurt my ability to focus.
 
Neck&Neck said:
That what my mom is like
She will ask me a question then just start talking about her day, lol
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I changed my number because most texts from folk I know start "Pete, how are you doing?" when I say "fine" they got on to ask for something, "can you stop by" or "can you help me with this shit?" Used to be, when I had friends it would start with some sort of interview type question and then they'd wear my ear out for hours yakking.
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
I'm in sales so am pretty good at conversation, I have to be I guess.
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yes you do but sales people usually give off the sleazy vibe like they are sheisty, no matter how well they converse. I knew a guy like that, genuinely nice guy but, super pushy and lacking any self awareness. He wasn't particularly sleazy like many of them are. I hate smooth talkers as a rule and I warn people about them when I see them. Some people don' thave as much exp as I do with them, being as I'd seen them in the music and the mma world, highly educated folks can be very naive.
 
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Sage NorthGOAT said:
So i found out i got an extra muscle that pinches a nerve and makes half my hands prone to falling asleep. Not like 1 of the 2 hands, but 50% of each hand, so it still adds up to 1 whole hand.
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something like that happened to me a year ago, three fingers on each hand, thank god it went away, it was probably because I was playing piano too much. from pinky to middle finger all were numbe.
 
tgv976 said:
Seems like it's hard to converse with someone who genuinely listens to what you say nowadays. They're just waiting for their turn to talk or just blurt stuff out and cut you off. Once every now and then I get, but some people just can't help acting like this all the time.

Or you could have a normal conversation with someone in the room. Then someone else feels the need to start another conversation with someone else in the room instead of just waiting until you're done or joining with something relevant, and then it's 2 parties talking over each other the whole time. Pet peeve of mine for sure.

I find the younger generation worse when it comes to this, but people my age (late 30's) and older aren't much better.

How do you react when people do this? If they cut me off repeatedly, then I cut them off mid sentence saying "Yeah bro, I know!" and then walk away. This has been kind of effective at getting some to realize it, but others just get louder and repeat the pattern upon further meetings until they won't talk to me anymore.
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Maybe youre just not that interesting
 
mozfonky said:
yes you do but sales people usually give off the sleazy vibe like they are sheisty, no matter how well they converse. I knew a guy like that, genuinely nice guy but, super pushy and lacking any self awareness. He wasn't particularly sleazy like many of them are. I hate smooth talkers as a rule and I warn people about them when I see them. Some people don' thave as much exp as I do with them, being as I'd seen them in the music and the mma world, highly educated folks can be very naive.
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I'm pretty sure most of my customers wouldn't describe me as sleazy or pushy, I'm certainly not this. I'm in B2B sales, generally I have long term customers over years so it's more about relationship building and maintenance.

I'm from a technical background (electrical engineering) so the transition to sales was very difficult, took years until I was comfortable.
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
I'm pretty sure most of my customers wouldn't describe me as sleazy or pushy, I'm certainly not this. I'm in B2B sales, generally I have long term customers over years so it's more about relationship building and maintenance.

I'm from a technical background (electrical engineering) so the transition to sales was very difficult, took years until I was comfortable.
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ok, but it's not uncommon for sales people to be like I described. I would guess the part about lacking self awareness would be a necessity with all the rejection involved. I couldn't take that sort of rejection an some people seem to be completely disconnected from the shame of rejection.
 
mozfonky said:
ok, but it's not uncommon for sales people to be like I described. I would guess the part about lacking self awareness would be a necessity with all the rejection involved. I couldn't take that sort of rejection an some people seem to be completely disconnected from the shame of rejection.
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Oh you're right about that, I see a lot of them. I could act like this for a week, a month maybe but not past that. Being transparent etc is a way better option for me, more sustainable.
 
Spam On Rye said:
The atomization of the human. AI is gonna get to the point where young people will have all their entertainment customized to the individual. Culture is dead. Conversations about Norm from Cheers dying will be unthinkable in the future.
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several years ago I brought up simulation theory to my best friend and telling him how I read an article saying things like trumps first victory and some superbowl game from the time ended up going wackily awry were proof that we were some entertainment to some computer operator. Anyway, I just said that with how we are getting, with the melding with the computer/cell, "we're halfway there now" in terms of being the operator of our own world. that was in 2016 or so and it gets worse and worse. No one seems to realize the problems caused by parking a baby in front of a screen all day, I've seen several kids raised this way and all of them have their own cells now when they don't need it. So much of what goes on is socially engineered to happen the way it does, that goes for our entertainment too.
 
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tgv976 said:
Seems like it's hard to converse with someone who genuinely listens to what you say nowadays. They're just waiting for their turn to talk or just blurt stuff out and cut you off. Once every now and then I get, but some people just can't help acting like this all the time.

Or you could have a normal conversation with someone in the room. Then someone else feels the need to start another conver
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Yeah bro, I know!
 
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