Can a fighter have 2 primes? Is '2 primes a thing?

[13Seconds]

Robbie Lawler, Vitor Belfort. Both estsblished themselves as dangerous talented contenders when they came up. Then it fazed out, their careers started to look kinda hopeless... Then outta nowhere they came back looking better than ever.

So two primes does exist? , common denominator though seems you have to start early

 

[Contempt]

Read the title came in to say Robbie Lawler... I'll see myself out.

Mark Hunt is also a good example.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Arlovski kinda did

 

[markys00]

End of thread?

 

[HHJ]

Robbie Lawler, Vitor Belfort. Both estsblished themselves as dangerous talented contenders when they came up. Then it fazed out, their careers started to look kinda hopeless... Then outta nowhere they came back looking better than ever.

So two primes does exist, common denominator is they all started early.

I dont think Lawler and Belfort had that much consistency in their "first" run.

It was only when they probably :: censored so I dont get banned :: they went on a crazy fuckin miraculous run where they started whuppin everyones ass for some weird reason.

 

[Mammothman]

Khabib already debunked that myth, the closest thing is taking PED (Belfort, Overreem, Big Foot) or changing your style (Glover, Jan, Masvidal)

 

[markg171]

Khabib already debunked that myth, the closest thing is taking PED (Belfort, Overreem, Big Foot) or changing your style (Glover, Jan, Masvidal)

Khabib said that dumb fucking statement because his style had no comeback if it ran into someone with good TDD so of course HE would have trouble coming back from that set back.

 

[gentel]

Twin prime conjecture

 

[Hymen Crusher]

100 percent ped gives you 5 primes.

 

[joy2day]

It depends. Is horsemeat on the menu?

 

[markg171]

There is likely a singularity where a fighter's physical prime, technique, fight experience, etc., all coincide at their best ever that they will never again reach. That doesn't necessarily however mean that's the version of them that might attain their highest achievements or that they can't continue achieving great results past that period.

Most of the time people want to blame losses and poor performances on unquantifiable mythical primes instead of fighters fighting like idiots or like they always have where there's hours of tape on them to counter. If you're 40 fighting like you're 20 that's on you, not your prime.

 

[Ibm]

Of course. Randy did. He second prime was actually more dominant

 

[Skarsgard]

No. Your prime is when you're at your best. It doesn't mean you can't be successful otherwise.

 

[Fedorgasm]

Jones qualifies.

His first prime was when he was poking his way through a stacked LHW division.

But then he started getting too much heat for poking eyes, so he stopped doing it, and it caused him to look very beatable vs mediocre competition at the end of his LHW run.

So he waited until the HW division got weaker, then moved up where he could face guys he knew he could beat without poking their eyes. Like gane, which I do give him props for, and stipe, for which he deserves zero props. Since Stipe on no planet deserved a title shot.

But you could call his victory over Gane his second prime. Since he hadn't looked dominant for several years before that fight.

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

Robbie Lawler, Vitor Belfort. Both estsblished themselves as dangerous talented contenders when they came up. Then it fazed out, their careers started to look kinda hopeless... Then outta nowhere they came back looking better than ever.

So two primes does exist, common denominator is they all started early.

There are two primes: the natural physical prime followed by the TRT prime

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

GSP?

170 GOAT

185 Champ 4 years later ... Beating Bisping by finish

 

[BowserJr]

Robbie Lawler, Vitor Belfort. Both estsblished themselves as dangerous talented contenders when they came up. Then it fazed out, their careers started to look kinda hopeless... Then outta nowhere they came back looking better than ever.

So two primes does exist, common denominator is they all started early.

2 peaks is probably more accurate. Prime would be the better of the 2 peaks IMO.

came here to say Vitor BTW... he had like 4 lol

Young Vitor (tournament winner)
The Old Vitor (more so Vitor of old)/Jesus Juice Vitor (when he came back to UFC v Eastman, Tito etc)
The New/Old Vitor (no juice; affliction/ 1st MW run)
TRTtor (JBJ fight/2nd MW run)

Robbie Lawler is a good one too
1st UFC run
Title run (prime)

BJ Penn is another.
1st LW run - WW belt
Open weight Run outside UFC
2nd LW run

Nate Diaz
LW run (prime)
Connor fights era

Nick Diaz
1st WW Run
Strikeforce run (prime)

Shogun
Pride GP (prime)
UFC title run

Reem
K1 gp winner - Brock fight (prime)
Econoreem title run

 

[BowserJr]

Jones qualifies.

His first prime was when he was poking his way through a stacked LHW division.

But then he started getting too much heat for poking eyes, so he stopped doing it, and it caused him to look very beatable vs mediocre competition at the end of his LHW run.

So he waited until the HW division got weaker, then moved up where he could face guys he knew he could beat without poking their eyes. Like gane, which I do give him props for, and stipe, for which he deserves zero props. Since Stipe on no planet deserved a title shot.

But you could call his victory over Gane his second prime. Since he hadn't looked dominant for several years before that fight.

Spot on

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Dan Henderson possibly?

Also, a lot of people forget Anderson Silva started at Welterweight and dethroned the Shooto champ Hayato Sakurai and gave him his first loss. Anderson was seen as one of the top WW's in the world. He then lost a few fights in PRIDE and seemed to be a middling fighter. His reputation was he was a great striker but his grappling was not so strong. He even considering retiring but then the Nog bros convinced him to come train his grappling at Brazilian Top Team. Anderson's grappling improved tremendously and he also came back up to Middleweight full time and once he got to the UFC he really had to use his grappling in many of his biggest fights, where he went on like a 17 fight winning streak and won like 12 UFC title fights.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Robbie Lawler, Vitor Belfort. Both estsblished themselves as dangerous talented contenders when they came up. Then it fazed out, their careers started to look kinda hopeless... Then outta nowhere they came back looking better than ever.

So two primes does exist, common denominator is they all started early.

Good thread. Some good replies. Well done sir