Calling BS on Penn & teller BS: bible

[SammyPops]

lol @ TS trying to keep it short

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

lol @ TS trying to keep it short

and LOL @ creationists attempting to sound intelligent.

 

[SammyPops]

and LOL @ creationists attempting to sound intelligent.

Is that what they call the oxy moron/

 

[JadeOwl]

As a book, the bible is pretty poorly written and ambiguous on a number of issues.

It's good to remember that the Bible is not really one book, but a collection of books, written by widely different authors in widely different styles over many centuries.

 

[Bukowski82]

If you don't take all of the bible literally, how can you take any of it literally?
If you reject some aspects because they're demonstrably false supernatural nonsense, why do you choose to accept other supernatural events as factual?


Frankly I have far more respect for crazy young earth creationists who take the bible literally than I do for cafeteria Christians that pick and choose what they accept. The former is completely divorced from reality but internally consistent. The latter is both divorced from reality and internally inconsistent.


p.s. Your god is an evil asshole and even if he were real would not be worth any sort of respect let alone worship.

And Dochter just effortlessly cuts through the BS once again...

 

[The Clamburglar]

"I'm going to try to keep this short..."

*Writes like 3 and half miles of text that nobody in their right mind would give a fuck about*

Good job!

 

[eworden78]

1) penn tries to take genesis literally. NO ONE who is respected on bible studies takes Genesis literally. It is the tale of the creation of the universe in theological terms. It is not a science book. Science did not exist until about the 16th century.
The PRO guy supports Genesis to not be taken literally, but Penn still cannot get this

From the Answers in Genesis Statement of Faith:

The account of origins presented in Genesis is a simple but factual presentation of actual events and therefore provides a reliable framework for scientific research into the question of the origin and history of life, mankind, the earth, and the universe.

Sounds like some people take it literally. People with much power and influence.

Its US revenue in 2005 was $13.7M.[20] According to Charity Navigator, in FYE 2006, Answers in Genesis had $13,675,653 in total revenue and $12,257,713 in expenses.[21] In 2006, Answers in Genesis was also listed by Ministry Watch, an independent organization which reviews Christian ministries for transparency and financial accountability among other things, as one of their Shining Lights "top thirty" exemplary ministries.[22]

 

[HOLA]

Penn Jillette literally went to a clown college. Clowns are far more evil than anything in the good book.

 

[FinalFight]

im gonna go watch it right now.... brb

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

My co-worker takes the bible literally. When she told me this my immediate reaction was to laugh. She got upset.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

TS is a Catholic. No one who supports that evil organisation should be taken seriously.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

So TS your proof that Jesus was real is the fact he had followers after his death? What about all other religions who still have followers?

 

[Hades86]

God damn, Zekes Chaingun just raped TS raw...

 

[TheDayday]

God damn, Zekes Chaingun just raped TS raw...

Raped in the poop hole... and Zeke's Chaingun does not use lubrication. It was as raw as raw can get.

 

[Teknik]

8) Penn goes into the brutal stoning as punishment for being gay or getting uppidity with your parent
- penn is living in the current world!!!
- life in OT times was brutal. slavery was a fucking GIVEN
- the rules in leviticus were brutal because god was setting aside rules for his people and giving them land. even with brutal death GOD still spent centuries banging monotheism into their heads.
-it was brutal following of rules or they would have not lasted...period
-like a child, you treat a child differently when he is a baby vs a teenager

Snip. This is as far as i made it.

Look. The book doesn't mean shit if you can't take it all literally. You can't say "this part is the word of god, and it's how we have to live". Then look at the next part and say "life was hard, times change, we don't live that way anymore"

Fuck off with your stupid book that was rewritten and translated 20 times.

 

[tkotom]

yes, i get to pick and chose what branch of christianity i follow. i mean, fuck, do you get to pick what philosophers you follow?
or what side of the big bag or multiple universe or holographic universe belief you follow???

I believe the catholic teaching is most true with what i get out of the bible and it has been around the longest

again, what 70% of people say DOES NOT MAKE IT SO.
now, if you tell me 70% of people WHO AHVE ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE and went to church more than 2x a year and did research and read the christian apologetic take the Bible literally, then you would have a case. but you don't.

As far as Christianity being against "learning"
um
Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth all started off as christian universities

lol, but hey, lets throw up Galileo as what the church did to every scientist.
and let throw up Truman as every president and every president's term we nuke a country

lol, do you read your wiki? from your wiki

Biblical literalism (also called Biblicism or Biblical fundamentalism) is the interpretation or translation of the explicit and primary sense of words in the Bible.[1][2] A literal Biblical interpretation is associated with the fundamentalist and evangelical hermeneutical approach to scripture
-lol, where does it say the catholic church in this blurb????


yes, i agree, FUNDAMETNALISTS take the bible literally

Origen, said some things that the church did not like
but okay

how about SAINT Irenaeus????


"Later Christians followed their example. Irenaeus of Lyons, in his work Against Heresies from the middle of the 2nd century, saw the story of Adam, Eve and the serpent pointing to the death of Jesus:

Now in this same day that they did eat, in that also did they die. But according to the cycle and progress of the days, after which one is termed first, another second, and another third, if anybody seeks diligently to learn upon what day out of the seven it was that Adam died, he will find it by examining the dispensation of the Lord. For by summing up in Himself the whole human race from the beginning to the end, He has also summed up its death. From this it is clear that the Lord suffered death, in obedience to His Father, upon that day on which Adam died while he disobeyed God. Now he died on the same day in which he did eat. For God said, 'In that day on which ye shall eat of it, ye shall die by death.' The Lord, therefore, recapitulating in Himself this day, underwent His sufferings upon the day preceding the Sabbath, that is, the sixth day of the creation, on which day man was created; thus granting him a second creation by means of His passion, which is that [creation] out of death."

Philosophy does not have a central doctrine nor do philosophers claim to reveal will of gods and creators of universes so of course you can pick and choose.

Though, when you pick and choose Christianity you're being disingenuous because it is divine, it has a central doctrine and well, it is written in a holy book.

Not only that but Jesus would be pretty upset if you only did SOME of the things he preached. Not sure if you would make it into the kingdom of heaven if you went around accumulating sizable wealth but called yourself a Christian or banged random people outside if marriage and called yourself a Christian like so many "christians" do.

 

[Francis Rossi]

I don't know why I continually allow myself to be trolled by Christians who don't even know the history of their own canon and churches, nor the mere capability to interpret passages of their own theology in ignorance of that context.

He randomly capitalises words, so he must be right.

 

[Roaming East]

hmm, christian getting mad at program that doesnt tow christianity myths. nothing new here.

 

[COTUR1@43]

Saw this and thought some here might be interested. This show is on History Channel 2 (H2) tonight. It is part of an on going series. As a Christian I am not afraid to watch shows like this or discuss the Bible. It can certainly be interpreted in many ways.

Bible Secrets Revealed Lost in Translation
Sun May 11, 8:00 PM EST
The Bible is one of the most influential and important books ever written and is considered by millions around the world to be the actual word of God. But has the Bible been translated, edited and even censored so many times throughout history that its original stories have been compromised? This episode explores many eye-opening contradictions and questions from a variety of historical and theological perspectives that have been debated for centuries. Is it possible that Moses did not actually write the first five books of the Old Testament? Could it be that David may not have been the real killer of Goliath? Were the four gospels of the New Testament attributed to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John actually written by completely different authors? With the discovery of the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls, and with recent archaeological findings about the New Testament, religious scholars have found evidence of many truly compelling Bible secrets.


I want to watch this but also want to watch the ESPN2 NFL draft recap. No DVR due to cable company screw up that I need to get fixed.

 

[CelticThunder]

There never was a Jesus that did the things in your storybook.
Your storybook is full of vile and disgusting deeds committed by your god and in the name of your god.
Your 'moral code' is nothing of the sort.
Face reality and stop living a lie based on the rantings of some inbred and illiterate middle eastern bronze age tribe of desert scumbags.