California Liberals Continuous Insanity - "Netflix tax"

And on that note, I think we should return this thread to its original objective now.

Who's better at fleecing tax payers, the insane liberals in California, the insane liberals in Pensylvania, or those insane liberals in Chicago?

My vote is on Pennsylvania, since that seemingly-low 6% Netflix Tax is actually state-wide, not up to individual cities like in California.

There's no where you can run within Pennsylvania to dodge it, and yet it's also low enough that people wouldn't go up in arms about it in the first place.

A 9% sales tax is freakin' steep, but 6% is workable.

Damn sneaky Pennsylvanian liberals.

Fleecing taxpayers is relative, relative to how much you benefit from government spending.

I would easily pay 50% income tax if i lived in Norway or Denmark, rather than the low amount of taxes i pay living in Mexico.
 
Have you americans entered the "taxing online shopping" debate yet ?

Netflix is so cheap that they can sneak in these taxes with little notice from the plebians. This tax has zero to do with fairness or cable viewers vs streamers. Whats to stop Netflix from just saying fuck you and setting up their operation in the cayman islands to avoid taxes haha ?

My guess it would be the steep tax they would need to repatriate said money.
 
the same way they know when you buy something on amazon

When you buy something on Amazon it gets shipped to a physical address, when you buy netflix you are actually accessing a remote server.
 
Why can't this be as simple as having the states sales tax apply to this service specifically? Wouldn't that allow for less buzz than picking specific rates just for this? Would make every simpler too. I live in PA so I'll see it on my new bill along with HBO go. This is just like the vape tax. Anytime a government starts losing revenue from less demand of one thing it taxes, it will have to tax the replacement product/service or accept the shortfall
 
Why can't this be as simple as having the states sales tax apply to this service specifically? Wouldn't that allow for less buzz than picking specific rates just for this? Would make every simpler too. I live in PA so I'll see it on my new bill along with HBO go. This is just like the vape tax. Anytime a government starts losing revenue from less demand of one thing it taxes, it will have to tax the replacement product/service or accept the shortfall

Can you apply state sales tax only in certain individual municipalities? Would it not have to be on the service across the whole state?
 
When you buy something on Amazon it gets shipped to a physical address, when you buy netflix you are actually accessing a remote server.

And then at the end of the month, the bill is sent to your physically address that you have linked to your credit card on file, where they send you new DVD movies each month.

Yes, thereotically people living in Pennsylvania can change their address to somewhere else to save on that 60 cents, and effectively cut off half of their customer benefits.

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Yes, People Still Use Netflix’s DVD Service

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With the rising popularity of set-top boxes and an ever-growing array of streaming services, you might think that Netflix’s original business of shipping out DVDs in its iconic red envelopes is obsolete and outmoded. But as Emily Steel reports for The New York Times, Netflix’s DVD operation is alive and well.

Approximately 3,400 discs are processed through the company’s rental return machine each hour — five times as many as when Netflix employees used to process them by hand. Steel reports that the machine, dubbed the “Amazing Arm” by the company’s engineers, symbolizes the way that Netflix has managed to maintain a profitable DVD operation, even as it builds a global streaming empire.

Netflix now has more than 65 million streaming members in more than 50 countries, and has concrete plans to expand around the world within the next 18 months. But the company projects that its streaming business will only break even globally through 2016 as it spends billions of dollars on content and on expansion. The often ignored DVD-by-mail operation still has 5.3 million subscribers — considerably fewer than the 20 million it had at its peak in 2010 — but continues to generate hundreds of millions of dollars in annual profit, augmented by engineers’ work to improve customer service and streamline the process of sorting and shipping millions of DVDs each week.

But why do users continue to subscribe to Netflix’s DVD service, when there are practically endless options of services to stream movies and TV shows instantly? It turns out, there are still some pretty compelling reasons for users to keep the company’s DVD-by-mail operation in business.

1. Access to a bigger library
One major reason to subscribe to Netflix’s DVD service is to gain access to the entire breadth of its selection of titles. The New York Times reports that Netflix has Netflix about 93,000 titles available for next-day delivery service to 92% of its subscribers. Additionally, the most recently released films tend to be available only on DVD, and not on Netflix’s streaming service, because of rights issues.

The licensing for physical rentals of DVDs or Blu-rays is significant simpler, and new movies are typically released within a month of them going on sale. By contrast, Netflix consistently removes titles from its streaming library as its licensing deals change and expire, even as it tries to make up for holes in its collection by producing original content. Many longtime Netflix users are familiar with the problem; they’ll watch a favorite movie once — or more than once — on the streaming service, and when they return to watch it again, it’s been removed. The ebb and flow of titles available for streaming happens all the time, and you can more consistently find the titles you’re looking for as a subscriber to the DVD service.

At the peak of the DVD service, Netflix operated about 50 distribution centers across the country; that number has since declined to 33. But the service is getting more and more efficient. The company’s introduction of automation technologies has enabled it to process more DVDs, and expand the areas where it offers the service. The company has also reworked its schedule to synchronize with new delivery standards set by the United States Postal Service.

2. Better video quality
Streaming-only customers may not realize it, but they’re actually missing out on the best video quality that Netflix has to offer. The company offers Blu-ray discs as part of its DVD service, and the video and audio quality of a Blu-ray is higher than what users are able to stream. As Home Theater Review explains, most streaming services, Netflix included, enable you to watch movies and TV show episodes at 1080p resolution, but resolution is only part of the story.

While you can stream a movie at the same resolution you’d get watching it on a Blu-ray that Netflix takes a day to mail to your home, the streaming service needs to use much more compression to deliver the movie to you than the Blu-ray disc because it has to compress the file enough to send it at a bit rate that’s equal to or lower than your broadband speed. Because Internet speeds vary wildly, Netflix has to aim for “the lowest common denominator,” and even Netflix’s Super HD 1080p service aims for a recommended target of just 7 Mbps for the best quality.

Even if your network’s speed surpasses the recommended standards, during times of heavy traffic, the speed and therefore the video quality can fall. Compression artifacts, like banding and softness, negatively impact picture quality. Additionally, Blu-rays offer better audio quality. Even when you’re getting excellent video quality by streaming, you aren’t getting the uncompressed multichannel audio that a Blu-ray can offer.

3. Unreliable Internet service
If you’re familiar with the slowdowns and annoyances that can happen when you’re streaming a movie and your Internet service slows down, you can likely relate to the problem of what happens when your Internet service goes down. DVDs and Blu-rays don’t require an Internet connection to work; in fact, as long as you have power, you can watch a movie or a TV show. In fact, if your computer has the proper drive, you can watch a DVD or a Blu-ray on a plane, or really anywhere, without needing an Internet connection.

Steel notes that a major part of the core user base for Netflix’s DVD service is comprised of customers in rural zones with lackluster Internet service. Netflix’s DVD service is a great choice for users with unreliable Internet connections, or even those who aren’t subscribers to an Internet service. The Pew Research Center reported late last year that census data indicated that nearly 25 million households have no regular Internet access.

Pew notes that in its own research, its researchers employ a different tactic, asking adults whether they use the Internet. At the time, 87% said they did. Among households with income over $20,000, most households have their own broadband subscriptions — but just having a subscription doesn’t guarantee a speed that’s conducive to streaming, or the reliability that would make DVD subscribers comfortable dropping their subscriptions.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/gear-styl...-netflixs-dvd-service-but-why.html/?a=viewall
 
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When you buy something on Amazon it gets shipped to a physical address, when you buy netflix you are actually accessing a remote server.

He asked how the govt even knew you used netflix. Tue company tells them, amazon does the same.

Netflix provides a service. Is there any reason that service should not be taxed the same as other services?
 
He asked how the govt even knew you used netflix. Tue company tells them, amazon does the same.

Netflix provides a service. Is there any reason that service should not be taxed the same as other services?

There are over 39 thousand local governments in the USA, does Netflix has contact with each of them?
 
There are over 39 thousand local governments in the USA, does Netflix has contact with each of them?

Probably will with the ones who have sales taxes soon. Most dont though.
 
Probably will with the ones who have sales taxes soon. Most dont though.

Ah, its quite complicated it seems.

In Mexico we dont have sales tax, we just have a flat VAT for virtually everything.
 
How do they know who is using netflicks and who isn't? Are they monitoring internet traffic?

The same way they do Sales Tax audits.

Just go to company and ask for their total sales (It should tie to their Federal Tax return and be reconciled back to their 10K).

The state will also ask for a breakdown by jurisdiction and if they show $1,000,000 of Revenue in PA the company will pay the state $60,000. The company knowing about the tax will have already charged the consumer the 6%.
 
Why can't this be as simple as having the states sales tax apply to this service specifically? Wouldn't that allow for less buzz than picking specific rates just for this? Would make every simpler too. I live in PA so I'll see it on my new bill along with HBO go. This is just like the vape tax. Anytime a government starts losing revenue from less demand of one thing it taxes, it will have to tax the replacement product/service or accept the shortfall

If the tax rate in PA is 6% that is the same as the state Sales rate tax. I wonder if Philly is getting the additional 2% like a Sales Tax.
 
Can you apply state sales tax only in certain individual municipalities? Would it not have to be on the service across the whole state?

It depend son the state. PA allows Philly to charge an extra 2% but the city has to get permission from the State and it has to be renewed yearly I believe.
 
Ah, its quite complicated it seems.

In Mexico we dont have sales tax, we just have a flat VAT for virtually everything.

Almost every state has a Sales Tax and almost every state has an Income Tax.

Netflix is providing services to all 50 states and I would assume is filing Income Tax in all of the states. Which means they should be tracking their sales to apportion their income accordingly.

While consumption taxes are taxes on the consumer they are withheld and paid by the seller. If the seller doesn't withhold the proper amount for the tax authorities they are still going to be on the hook for the tax owed.
 
It depend son the state. PA allows Philly to charge an extra 2% but the city has to get permission from the State and it has to be renewed yearly I believe.

so you pay roughly 8% in a netflix tax?

Didnt know cities can inflate a state sales tax.
 
so you pay roughly 8% in a netflix tax?

Didnt know cities can inflate a state sales tax.

I don't know about the Netflix tax but we pay 8% in Sales tax.

And again the state has to allow it. But in reality when a city charges more in Sales Tax it's almost always regressive since the people that have cars tend to go do most of their shopping in the suburbs, NJ or TAX FREE Delaware as a result.

So the only people who end up paying substantially more in Sales Tax are poor people who don't own a car. The same goes for sin taxes on cigarettes and soda.
 
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