California: Hispanics now the relative majority

[Lord of Lies]

Do you have some mental issue? As soon as you disagree with someone, out comes the "racist" or "stormfront" accusations.

You just sound like a typical ignorant Stormfronter as usual.

 

[Factory]

good, latinas are hotter anyway

 

[Selukrid612]

No, without a link you gave a piece of opinion, and considering your "minorities like education because they benefit more from it" blunder ill need more than your word for it. No amount of google-fu will allow me to find information that only exists in your head

Here is the source Rod:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html?_r=0

And regarding my "blunder", let me also share this with you:

According to the study, even though unemployment is higher among African Americans at every level of education, the added gains in income and employment opportunities gained from getting an additional degree is much greater for African Americans than whites. For example, a professional degree gives a black male a 146 percent larger increase in employment opportunities than his white counterparts. A bachelor

 

[Deleted member 185048]

Nothing to worry about. Hispanic cultures tend to be hard working, family oriented, and easy going. Unlike urban poor hip-hop culture, a disgusting disease of a culture.

 

[Rod1]

Here is the source Rod:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html?_r=0

From your own article

For instance, the company estimates that if the black population with the appropriate technical skills was fully represented at Intel today, the company’s current population of black workers would grow by about 48 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/racial-education-gap_n_5537530.html

Did you even read the article you pointed?

Several studies have pointed out the evident racial achievement gap but recent research has revealed a sad truth -- an African-American male with an associate degree has the same chances of getting a job as a white male with a high school diploma.

So where is the part that they get ahead through affirmative action and shoe-lining?

Poor people improve more from education than middle and upper class people, thats a given and doesnt has anything to do with race. It also only accounts for black people not latinos.

But you are on to something, latin america is a highly stratified society, more so than anything Americans have ever experienced, so education is valued because its the only way to escape poverty in said societies.

The higher the income and the less stratified society is the less advantage you get from education. For example myself, i work in an off-branch of a family business, all the secrets and experience of my trade, capital and connections came because i was born in my family, its understandable that someone like me wouldnt value education, because quite frankly i dont really needed it to succeed.

On the other hand, i had schoolmates whose parents were blue collar workers with no capital and little to pass to their kids except paying them through school, if they had not gone through school, they would be doing menial, blue collar labor like their parents.

The reason i call BS on your part, is because the idea of education as social mobility is far more present in hispanics than in a society that had to deal less with social stratification.

Likewise as you pointed out, that blacks despite benefiting the most from education according to your article, dont care as much about education, and that has to do with an history of racism that made them not really try as hard as they should had.

So again, what exactly do you need me to clear up for you Rod? If you have a question, ask it. Or let's move on.

What are the "other reasons" that you keep mentioning?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Nothing to worry about. Hispanic cultures tend to be hard working, family oriented, and easy going. Unlike urban poor hip-hop culture, a disgusting disease of a culture.

To be fair there is Hispanic urban hip hop culture that is just as bad if not worse than black hip hop culture.

 

[ILLogic]

Don't worry about it brochacho, it's all clearly over your head. And I'll give you one guess where I'm from. Think really hard about it and maybe you'll find the answer.

It's evident from this thread that you don't have much interest in reading articles, even the ones that you cite yourself. However, on the slight chance that you decide to pull your head from your ass...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324787004578495393859698964

 

[ILLogic]

From your own article

For instance, the company estimates that if the black population with the appropriate technical skills was fully represented at Intel today, the company

 

[uppercutbus]

Hispanic cultures tend to be hard working, family oriented, and easy going.

Unlike urban poor hip-hop culture, a disgusting disease of a culture.

 

[TemujinKhan]

Hispanics need to stop being labelled as a visible minority, hispanic is not a race and never will be. There are only 3 races on this planet. mongoloid, caucasoid, and negroid, and some sub classifications of each. "White people" are not a race either, genetically there is more similarity between a middle easterner and a western european in comparison to a Korean and a Fillipino. Yet one is considered a different race as in "white people" vs "middle eastern/brown people" whereas Koreans and Filipinos are both considered "Asian". In terms of global population caucasiods are actually the majority or close to, Europeans, middle easterners, south asians and the majority of south americans are caucasoids. Caucasoids are in no danger of going extinct like the white nationalists will have you believe, it's just that their classification of "white" is so exclusive that only a small region of the planet can claim to be white/caucasian according to their standards.

As for white hispanics, they enjoy the luxury of speaking on minority issues while not having to deal with actually being a visible minority. For example I remember one hispanic couple arguing with people that as hispanics they know whats its like to be a visible minority and deal with prejudices but if you look at their picture they look 100% white/caucasian, blonde hair blue eyed, pale skin, no accent.

 

[nixkid]

Here is the source Rod:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html?_r=0

And regarding my "blunder", let me also share this with you:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/racial-education-gap_n_5537530.html



So again, what exactly do you need me to clear up for you Rod? If you have a question, ask it. Or let's move on.

You do realize that those percentage/salary gains are relative to members of the same race who have attained one less level of education, right? Blacks have bigger gains because they start off with lower salaries. The 10k salary gain mentioned in your quote happens when going from Associate's degree to Bachelor's degree. This is from the same study that the quote references:

source: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...sing_the_Race_Gap_Ntnl_6.25.14.pdf?1403804069

Notice that blacks go from 35k to 45k from Associate's to Bachelor's and whites go from 46k to 52k from Associate's to Bachelor's. So whites with an Associate's make more than blacks with a Bachelors....but you're somehow trying to twist this into evidence that blacks with college degrees are better off than whites with degrees. And it could not be any further from the truth.

My honest guess is that you don't have much real world experience in corporate America because the notion that whites are now oppressed/have a hard time making it compared to other races in the corporate setting is laughable to anyone who has had a professional job.

 

[IIIIIIII]

Hispanics need to stop being labelled as a visible minority, hispanic is not a race and never will be. There are only 3 races on this planet. mongoloid, caucasoid, and negroid, and some sub classifications of each. "White people" are not a race either, genetically there is more similarity between a middle easterner and a western european in comparison to a Korean and a Fillipino. Yet one is considered a different race as in "white people" vs "middle eastern/brown people" whereas Koreans and Filipinos are both considered "Asian". In terms of global population caucasiods are actually the majority or close to, Europeans, middle easterners, south asians and the majority of south americans are caucasoids. Caucasoids are in no danger of going extinct like the white nationalists will have you believe, it's just that their classification of "white" is so exclusive that only a small region of the planet can claim to be white/caucasian according to their standards.

As for white hispanics, they enjoy the luxury of speaking on minority issues while not having to deal with actually being a visible minority. For example I remember one hispanic couple arguing with people that as hispanics they know whats its like to be a visible minority and deal with prejudices but if you look at their picture they look 100% white/caucasian, blonde hair blue eyed, pale skin, no accent.

i somewhat fall in the, "white hispanic" category, like you mentioned. i have indian blood in me as well, it's just that i have a majority of european blood. i've been mistaken as being from so many countries, it's hilarious. it takes about the sixth or seventh guess until they're finally correct in saying mexico. or i should say, that my blood is from mexico, but i was born-and-raised in the u.s.

and yes, you are absolutely right. "white" tends to be seen as only those who have fair skin and light eyes. many folks from the mediterranean are quite dark.

 

[panamaican]

Hispanics need to stop being labelled as a visible minority, hispanic is not a race and never will be. There are only 3 races on this planet. mongoloid, caucasoid, and negroid, and some sub classifications of each. "White people" are not a race either, genetically there is more similarity between a middle easterner and a western european in comparison to a Korean and a Fillipino. Yet one is considered a different race as in "white people" vs "middle eastern/brown people" whereas Koreans and Filipinos are both considered "Asian". In terms of global population caucasiods are actually the majority or close to, Europeans, middle easterners, south asians and the majority of south americans are caucasoids. Caucasoids are in no danger of going extinct like the white nationalists will have you believe, it's just that their classification of "white" is so exclusive that only a small region of the planet can claim to be white/caucasian according to their standards.

As for white hispanics, they enjoy the luxury of speaking on minority issues while not having to deal with actually being a visible minority. For example I remember one hispanic couple arguing with people that as hispanics they know whats its like to be a visible minority and deal with prejudices but if you look at their picture they look 100% white/caucasian, blonde hair blue eyed, pale skin, no accent.

This is actually a very good post. In parallel to IIIIIIIIII's post, I'm a black Hispanic. Even in the Hispanic community, the first assumption is that I'm black American and it's not until I start speaking Spanish that I get my Hispanic cred. But there are visibly "white" Hispanics who are never considered Hispanic by the people they interact with, unless they have an obvious last name like Garcia or Suarez, while they're still checking the Hispanic box for most of the minority programs.

I love being Hispanic but it's got to be the most misleading minority title out there.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Whitey-whites need a specific label that's fun to say. Like albinos or something. It's not technically correct but that's rarely a problem.