Cain vs Miocic, who ya got?

[Jer713]

Hard to choose but I'm leaning towards Stipe.

Cain has the tools to give anyone a tough night but I feel like his high pressure style benefits greatly from his athleticism. Cains athletic/physical prime seems to be pretty far behind him at this point so it's tough to favor him.

I feel like his performance at 200 will be very telling as far as where his career goes from here.

 

[Deleted member 501827]

Stipe destroys him

 

[Final Say]

Haven't seen anything from Stipe that gives me the impression he can hang with Cain. The win over Werdum was not how I would have hoped to see him win it. He capitalized on a ridiculous mistake and did so quickly so all credit to that, but Werdum hadn't performed that terribly in a very long time. The Werdum who chased him with his chin in the air was not the same guy who shattered the aura of Cain Velasquez's invincibility or the guy who KOd Mark Hunt. Stipe is a great fighter, but he doesn't have any amazing break out performances to suggest he's any better than he was when he lost a competitive but clearly lost fight to JDS.

He wasn't even supposed to compete with junior. He totally outclassed everyone since, including Werdum. Fabricio tried everything and only rushed when he panicked at the prospect of having to continue to stand with him at distance.

 

[hedidhisownstunts]

So you're saying that Miocic improved so much across his performances against Hunt and Arlovski that within only a few tentative minutes with Werdum, was so dominant that Werdum panicked and threw caution into the wind running after Stipe trying to knock him out?
What i saw was Werdum not respecting Stipe and thinking he can just walk right in and blast him out. It was an arrogant and ignorant error.
Cain lit Werdum up with shots and was very competitive with him before eventually losing. At no time in that fight did Werdum race forward blindly leaving himself wide open. he didn't pull that shit with Hunt either.
He didn't respect Stipe, fought like a fool and got starched.
Cain , on his game, has a more complete arsenal that I don't think bodes well for Stipe. Not being able to "hang with him" is a bit of an overstatement but I definitely favor Cain's skill set.

 

[GrAtI]

Stipe by (t)ko.

 

[Chain Saw]

Prime Cain would put a JDS-esque beating on him.

Nowadays, who knows.

 

[KORMAN]

Cain has 1 bad fight after injury and being away for a long while, and he's washed up? Some people really have narrow vision here, lol.

However, maybe his injuries have really diminished him, and he's done, but going to have to see how he looks in this next fight. I'd be cheering for Stipe in a fight between them tho, since he's from Cleveland, and I have family there. Probably going there to watch his first defense.

If Cain can get back to where he was, I think he can do to Stipe exactly what he did to JDS in his 2 wins over him.

And some people are such bad athletic evaluaters it truly boggles my mind. You even have some people like you that probably think he's still the same old JDS.

Cain fought like how he looks in the Werdum fight, and we've never ever seen Cain look so sloppy and tired that freaking fast. He's been injured year after year, and your retarded ass thinks he's some marvel of modern science, and suffer absolutely no side effects of getting injured damn near every training camp.

Go to your room.

 

[Glumberjack]

Need to see how Cain looks after the layoff. Assuming he's anything like he was, he's a tough fight for anyone. However, Stipe's skillset matches up pretty well against Cain's: he's a good wrestler, moves well, has good cardio and he has excellent boxing. I would probably favor Miocic to win by late (T)KO.

 

[War Pig]

Cain is still mentally broken from the beating Werdum put on him. Cain is finished.

 

[Mixfight]

If Cain got boxed up by Fabricio, Stipe would punch a hole through his head.

 

[Torack]

And some people are such bad athletic evaluaters it truly boggles my mind. You even have some people like you that probably think he's still the same old JDS.

Cain fought like how he looks in the Werdum fight, and we've never ever seen Cain look so sloppy and tired that freaking fast. He's been injured year after year, and your retarded ass thinks he's some marvel of modern science, and suffer absolutely no side effects of getting injured damn near every training camp.

Go to your room.

Where did I say he's some marvel of modern science, or not allow that the injuries may really have taken their toll and he cant come back? All I'm saying is people are extremely quick to write him off after one bad fight.

You seem overly angry and confrontational about this. Are you so used to arguing all the time that you have to try to force it?

 

[mikehunt]

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Stipe by fireman'z ax in the later roundz.

Cain can't bully Stipe with his wrestling. That meanz standing in front of a superior striker & getting caught. I'm a fan of both... but I got Stipe on this one.

 

[NightwingBJJ]

Stipe by KO/TKO. Cain would be forced to stand and get lit up by Stipe, I don't see Cain getting him down, remember Stipe has only been taken down once in his entire MMA career and the takedown only last 3 seconds and he was back up. He has great TDD and on the feet he is too fast and accurate for Cain. I see him dropping Cain hard and finishing him

You are the biggest Miocic I know. Hespect

 

[NightwingBJJ]

Let's have this conversation after 200 okay.. you will find people will be more.. open to ideas.

Yeah then we can start talking about Brownie vs Miocic after Travis vanquish Cain.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

Stipe's holding on to that belt...for a long...long...time.

 

[Myotherfistisapenis]

Stipe for sure... Cain is going to have trouble against Travis Browne, I'm putting $ on Browne to win that fight.

 

[MrMightyMouse]

I think at this point in Cain's career, Miocic would put a beating on him if the Werdum fight was any indication of how he's gonna look, physically from now on.

Just much cleaner boxing, and their wrestling's nullified. Also, I think he's more agile than Cain, and he's the bigger man, which is more impressive. Cain is still my dude, but I think the injuries have taken a major toll on him, and I don't think we see the "old" Cain anymore, because while he'll be training smarter now, he's also losing a lot of what made him so great, and that's training like Rocky Balboa in Rocky 4 where he goes back to his roots, and trains balls to the walls for Ivan Drago.

I think there's a limited shelf life for guys that red line it to the max every single training camp like Cain. I'm scared Chris Weidman might suffer the same fate. The greatest fighters have one thing in common. They train like it's their last fight, and their life depends on it. Its just that some fighters are blessed to go through their careers relatively unscathed, while others like Cain and Chris pay for the way they train, almost everytime.

Its just not fair, man.

I'd go with Stipe, on this one...

 

[One MMA Fan]

Yeah then we can start talking about Brownie vs Miocic after Travis vanquish Cain.

Sorry buddy you will be rocking a pillow AV in 6 days.

Stipe for sure... Cain is going to have trouble against Travis Browne, I'm putting $ on Browne to win that fight.

Please reconsider.. Cain will put a beating on that man.