Cain vs Miocic, who ya got?

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I think at this point in Cain's career, Miocic would put a beating on him if the Werdum fight was any indication of how he's gonna look, physically from now on.

Just much cleaner boxing, and their wrestling's nullified. Also, I think he's more agile than Cain, and he's the bigger man, which is more impressive. Cain is still my dude, but I think the injuries have taken a major toll on him, and I don't think we see the "old" Cain anymore, because while he'll be training smarter now, he's also losing a lot of what made him so great, and that's training like Rocky Balboa in Rocky 4 where he goes back to his roots, and trains balls to the walls for Ivan Drago.

I think there's a limited shelf life for guys that red line it to the max every single training camp like Cain. I'm scared Chris Weidman might suffer the same fate. The greatest fighters have one thing in common. They train like it's their last fight, and their life depends on it. Its just that some fighters are blessed to go through their careers relatively unscathed, while others like Cain and Chris pay for the way they train, almost everytime.

Its just not fair, man.
 
Miocic.

He has good enough counter-wrestling, and superior size / hands.
 
Miocic would KO him. Cain is done.
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Prime Cain takes it, this Cain will see after the Travis fight where he is.
 
Stipe by KO/TKO. Cain would be forced to stand and get lit up by Stipe, I don't see Cain getting him down, remember Stipe has only been taken down once in his entire MMA career and the takedown only last 3 seconds and he was back up. He has great TDD and on the feet he is too fast and accurate for Cain. I see him dropping Cain hard and finishing him
 
Tough call. We'll have to see how Cain looks against Browne.
 
Miocic by having better striking and good enough wrestling to keep it on the feet and away of the clinch. Bobble head Cain would get finished.
 
What altitude are we talking?
 
Haven't seen anything from Stipe that gives me the impression he can hang with Cain. The win over Werdum was not how I would have hoped to see him win it. He capitalized on a ridiculous mistake and did so quickly so all credit to that, but Werdum hadn't performed that terribly in a very long time. The Werdum who chased him with his chin in the air was not the same guy who shattered the aura of Cain Velasquez's invincibility or the guy who KOd Mark Hunt. Stipe is a great fighter, but he doesn't have any amazing break out performances to suggest he's any better than he was when he lost a competitive but clearly lost fight to JDS.
 
Prime Cain takes it easily now not so sure. Cain upcoming fight will tell us more where he is at.
 
Cain has 1 bad fight after injury and being away for a long while, and he's washed up? Some people really have narrow vision here, lol.

However, maybe his injuries have really diminished him, and he's done, but going to have to see how he looks in this next fight. I'd be cheering for Stipe in a fight between them tho, since he's from Cleveland, and I have family there. Probably going there to watch his first defense.

If Cain can get back to where he was, I think he can do to Stipe exactly what he did to JDS in his 2 wins over him.
 
We haven't really seen anyone test Stipe's wrestling, but if Cain couldn't control him on the ground he'd be in big trouble.
 
Let's have this conversation after 200 okay.. you will find people will be more.. open to ideas. :D
 
Look at this way, they both win their next fight and we get to find out. Assuming Cain doesn't get hurt in between. o_O
 
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