News Cain Velasquez arrested on a charge of attempted murder for shooting at his relatives molester

Should Cain's friends or family have tried to stop him from making a huge mistake?

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GeneTunney7 said:
But they do have higher rape, violence, machete deaths, stabbings, etc.
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No they don't. He said developed. America is really bad for violence compared to countries with a similar HDI.
 
GeneTunney7 said:
But they do have higher rape, violence, machete deaths, stabbings, etc. Guns sometimes kill innocent people, but they can also kill bad people and save good and innocent people. No other instrument can protect, equalize the gap, between a 100 pound woman and 6'5 man (aka avg sherdogger) like a gun. It aint a black and white subject, but America's forefathers saw it fit to put them so high on the priority list that they placed the right to bear as the second amendment. And if you ban guns, the only people that are going to still have them are the criminals (banning drugs/rape/murder did not stop criminals from doing them) and big brother/tyrants (the whole reason the forefathers wanted the citizens to have guns in the first place).

Im willing to bet that if Cain really just wanted to hurt/kill someone, he would not need the gun. It's easy to heap this on a scapegoat like a gun, but there is alot more here, and we dont even know what happened yet.....heck, maybe without the gun Cain is dead now.
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Like virtuqally everyone else is pointing out, you're spinning things to a comical degree in order to rationalize the US' gun obsession and violence issue. And also making up stats about other First World (LOL, and most Developing Countries) having higher violence and rape stats. . . which is part of the larger problem: Americans (particularly conservatives) think it's a sin to critique their own country's flaws or admit that they could fix the issues/improve upon them, or HEAVEN FORBID emulate country's that have fixed issues such as (gun) violence, social injustices, healthcare, education, etc., Very, very self-limiting way to view reality.
 
Qays Stetkevich said:
Like virtuqally everyone else is pointing out, you're spinning things to a comical degree in order to rationalize the US' gun obsession and violence issue. And also making up stats about other First World (LOL, and most Developing Countries) having higher violence and rape stats. . . which is part of the larger problem: Americans (particularly conservatives) think it's a sin to critique their own country's flaws or admit that they could fix the issues/improve upon them, or HEAVEN FORBID emulate country's that have fixed issues such as (gun) violence, social injustices, healthcare, education, etc., Very, very self-limiting way to view reality.
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That's the saddest thing. We literally don't like critiquing ourselves while attempting to police the world and virtue signal whenever we can while stuffing our closet full of bones.

Republicans call everyone else snowflakes but are literally trying to rewrite US history because certain truthful facts hurt their feelings. Who is the real snowflake...

Off my soapbox now. In the Cain situation, they don't detain victims of crimes.....
 
GeneTunney7 said:
Lol, united states is 55th on the list, one spot above Greenland......why not bring up the 54 countries ahead of the us, many with a ban on guns? Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Most of the violent crime is coming from cities, places like Chicago - where virtually all the violent crime comes from people illegally possessing firearms - so not sure how comparing that with Switzerland has any correlation. United states can not be compared to any European country because it is such a melting pot.

Are you arguing a ban on all guns? Then what do you say about hunters and farmers that need them - start buying GMO burgers/become reliant on corporations for their food and let their live stock get murked? It's always the city people, completely disconnected from the reality of country life, that think guns should be totally banned.
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Lol, what do you mean you're a melting pot? Have you ever been to countries like UK,France or Spain? I'm pretty sure you'd be quite surprised of the diversity you may find there. Western europe is flooded with migration.
Also, who told you that hunting is banned? It is perfectly legal in every European country!
 
Busgosu said:
Lol, what do you mean you're a melting pot? Have you ever been to countries like UK,France or Spain? I'm pretty sure you'd be quite surprised of the diversity you may find there. Western europe is flooded with migration.
Also, who told you that hunting is banned? It is perfectly legal in every European country!
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US is much more diverse than European countries dude, this isn’t a debate. It's literally what it's famous for.

What are you trying to prove here
 
Cid said:
No they don't. He said developed. America is really bad for violence compared to countries with a similar HDI.
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But if one demographic was removed then check the stats on actual violence not that I'm advocating that. That's just a fact. But the one dude crying about people having the right to carry a pistol while buying a ice cream why does that even matter. I always have at least gun on me while shopping etc and never harmed anyone. But I also carry a pocket knife and never stabbed anyone. They're just tools.
 
Any chance that this guy was the victim?

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Cain finally getting revenge for what this guy did to his career.
 
Kyojiro Kagenuma said:
Thread derail incoming
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That's the modern times, everything is political and triggering - it went from Cain shot someone with a gun, to someone saying Americans were dumb because of their gun laws, then me saying the gun argument is kinda complex, then me being straw manned as some conservative Trumpanzee that wants toddlers to have AR-15's <Lmaoo> Im fine with the derail atp <Lmaoo>
 
Kyojiro Kagenuma said:
US is much more diverse than European countries dude, this isn’t a debate. It's literally what it's famous for.

What are you trying to prove here
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Easy: 2nd amendment made sense in the 18th century, but now there is no need for that.
We allowed for duels and carrying weapons in Europe around that time and progressly evolved towards not needing them. Cause you don't really need them in any civilized country. It took some time until people accepted this, but eventually it stuck and the results speak for themselves. The more you wait until this change is implemented, the more people will needlessly die.
 
Classic White Belt said:
Get a grip, redneck. Hunters and farmers will be allowed their respective tools - even if it's rifles. Same as in countries with strict gun laws.
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All the people in America will be allowed to keep their respective tools and that will never change. Ukraine is a fine example of why it shouldn't be. So loose that worthless face panty you need to wear to buy a jar of pickles and quit the redneck comments.
 
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Thank you all.
 
You get housed without bail being set until after your first hearing. Meaning you are being accused of a crime or crimes. Lucky for him it didn't happen on the weekend. He'll be able to be release/post bond, probably by 5pm or earlier today.
 
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