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This is Nog in Rings:
This is Nog in UFO:
This is Nog in UFC:
Bonus: Nog in UFC > Fence or not Fence?
Cain is the best - deal with it
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Lets not make this into one of these abysmal Fedor hate threads but you are just wrong. He had serious back and knee injuries and that was an important part why he changed his style near completely and you did see next to no wrestling / submission game from Fedor after that. Part was his disinterest in fighting at all (his religious episode) and part was his worn down body.
A HW fights monsters and ages a lot through fights. Fedor started his career early and had a lot of mileage at 30. Its all about mileage and not age.
Regarding Cerrone he is imo ab bad comparison to any fighter at all at the moment but thats annother topic
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Age has nothing to do with jo.. See randy c... People's primes are not the same at all. At 30..fedor had 32 wins with 0 real losses by the time he was 31. Also had 11 gold medals in combat sambo. Cain has 12 wins in 10 years... With losses inside that time. I agree chains body was fragile and he was always injured. His competition was in no way harder than Fedors the fights all the way up to Kongo were no bobldys and even then Kongo wasn't really either.
Fedor averaged 3 fights per year over the 10 years win streak, and that's not even including all the sambo matches. How can you even compare them really? It's not even in the same ballpark. If you aren't I pressed with a smaller hw going 10 years without a loss, plus 8 in another combat sports at the same time with no loss I just don't know what would impress you about Cain. He fought 1 time per year if that, and fough several guys multiple times. So of his 12 wins 3 fights vs jds, who was his biggest win.. 2 vs Bigfoot, a zombie fie nog, a pro wrestler.. And a bunch of mediocre guys. Where does the he is great theme come from? At least with Fedor he fought.. And it was never like he chose opponents. He stayed more active that anyone in hw division ever. He beat better guys than Cain even faced, and more of them. Pride had its freaks how matches for sure.. But it's no gimme when u fight a guy over 7 foot weighing 350 lbs.. Thats 120lbs weight advantage not to mention a foot reach advantage.. Who was a k1 champ, so not exactly a can. 120lbs is huge. When he armbarred him he was basically as long with his whole body as hmc arm length. It's not fanboy.. Yes I am a fan, I've been watching mma since the start. I didn't jump a bandwagon, and I don't buy into hype. Fedor didn't need hype, his actions were loud enough. While people were running from a contract to fight him, he stayed active. He fought whoever they put out there against him. And he won, and continued to win until his body had gave up. 10 years at hw will never be broken. That by itself makes him goat, add in the combat sambo 8 year streak w 11 gold medals.. Its just icing on the cake.
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Mexican descent Cain was the best no doubt but then he started to appease to his American sideWe need to give proper due where due is due - cain fans gtfih
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A Tale of Two Cains....
....If he was always mean mugging like above -he'd been a force
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He’ll always be one of the great “what if’s” in MMA. I think if he could get healthy a fight between him and stipe would be fun.
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Nog's almost defeated more top 10 fighters than Cain has total fights.
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Lol. The best what?
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Oh @Clippy you so wrong broseph clip.We need to give proper due where due is due - cain fans gtfih
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Couldn't care less what rankings said in the early 2000s...
DC and JDS are clearly better and would both beat him.
JDS has defeated more ATGs.
Which Nog beats Cain?
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As ya can see, prime Nog was somethin´else, grappling-wise.
JDS has a limited skill set, short prime too.
DC´s body of work @ HW is too thin, and weaker era too.
It is what it is.
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Nog has defeated:
Coleman (c)
Ricco Rodriguez (c)
Cro Cop
Werdum (c)
Barnett (c)
Sylvia (c)
Couture (c)
JDS has defeated:
Werdum (c)
Cro Cop
Cain (c)
Mir (c)
Stipe (c)
I like JDS a lot, but you don't want to go down this road. Nogueira's resume is impeccable.
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