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Bryce Calls Out Ilia

oski said:
Polly trolling here, but can you real quick explain how a helicopter that lands back in the same spot it took off from tells anyone anything about Earth's surface?
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It only makes sense to flat-earthers. Bryce has a whole video where explains it like it’s irrefutable proof that the earth is flat.
 
Koala said:
You should give a fuck because elevators and bridges are built considering the rules of gravity. So, if it's fake, tomorrow the elevator or the bridge may collapse while you're in
GPS navigation is also done through satellites + hurricanes monitoring, and other meteorological applications
Climate patterns are also at the core of agriculture
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The point is that regardless if that knowledge was true it wouldn't change your life whatsoever and there's literally nothing you could do about it, so who gives a fuck.

What a complete waste of mental energy and time.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
Bryce (and many posters ITT) must've forgotten about this:
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You'd forget too if you got hit that hard
 
RockyLockridge said:
It's the only conspiracy theory with zero motive behind it
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Nah, it too is a grift. Makes money off it's followers like any other

JustBleed69 said:
The point is that regardless if that knowledge was true it wouldn't change your life whatsoever and there's literally nothing you could do about it, so who gives a fuck.

What a complete waste of mental energy and time.
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I think part of it is that is just such a basic fact that has been long known and proven repeatedly for millennia, and yet there is such a vastly coordinated and vocal (and practically a) rebellion against it.

Problem is that it is symptomatic of a larger issue, that being a growing populace of people who can't accept facts to the point that they don't even agree on the gold standards for how to prove facts.

It's like if you wanted people to learn math, but it's not that they don't understand multiplication, but they disagreed that numbers exist at all. At that point, you realize you can't even begin explain to them how they're wrong. You're playing a game with completely different pieces. You can't teach checkers to a person who refuse to believe you can't move the pieces straight forward, or off the board entirely.

We kind of want people to understand the basic premise of testing and measuring information to get the clearest answer to things, and the more that tries to be pointed out to them, the more the 'anti authority' crowd drive the narrative that you're "just forcing everyone to conform to your viewpoint like any religious authority or fascist would," or some other bullshit, cuz they'll never take accountability for scientific illiteracy
 
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JustBleed69 said:
The point is that regardless if that knowledge was true it wouldn't change your life whatsoever and there's literally nothing you could do about it, so who gives a fuck.

What a complete waste of mental energy and time.
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Neither Bryce nor Ilia will be involved in their lives in anything related to those topics, but for sure, whether it's true or not, it will impact anyone's life. Crumbling buildings, bridges, elevators, hurricanes that are not monitored, and agricultural yields are impactful
 
RockyLockridge said:
I don't see it....

Who is making money off of it and how? Are they selling "secrets" of retard society in monthly installments Like Scientology?
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So there are two pretty distinct periods for this "modern" push for flat earth. The man most credited with reviving this idea was a fake doctor Samuel Rowbotham, who was very vocal, lectured for decades, engaged in debates, and wrote at least one book I know of about this theory. And what do you know, turns out he's a quack with a bunch of alternative medical treatments that he sold at the events he held, so he benefited greatly from the publicity and questioning of the scientific method (he came up with his own Zetetic method). So the linkage between flat earth and alternative quackery that exists even today isn't coincidental, it was the same track from the start and prevailed for a long time after his death.

Now that was back in the 1840's and for a time, it was just a very general link that couldn't to bend and even separate over time, so by the time of the early parts of flat earth on the internet weren't all that grifty, the flat earth society was just a bunch of dumb/crazy people. The real peak of modern flat earth grift started pretty recently, from 2014-2017, where ad-proliferation could be driven to book sales through viral marketing for people like Eric Dubay, which then became crowd funding. It becomes people , "send me money so I can find this rocket experiment, or antarctic vacation expedition, or documentary so I can prove these scientists wrong" (or even on the flip side, making actual learned people spend money on you to try and publicize proving you wrong). Between all that and a surprising amount of flat earth / FES merchandising, there's a good amount of financial benefit for those people like Mike Hughes or previously Jeran Campanella, who had prominent positions in these narratives, to keep idiots believing it's true.

Most ex flat earthers will tell you it's a big scheme
 
oski said:
Polly trolling here, but many people give a fuck about being lied to. That's for sure. And their children being fed lies in school.

Fun fact: heliocentrism is a philosophical choice, yet is taught as fact to our children. The truth is that they could not tolerate the Earth being the center of our world.

"... the unwelcome supposition of a favored location (geocentric) must be avoided at all costs."
---"The Observational Approach to Cosmology" (1937) Edwin Hubble

I mean should it matter to humanity if they chose to turn what everyone sees when they look at the sky since forever, with its perfect and most beautiful symmetry...
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What are the implications?

Showing myself the door, sherpimps.
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Implications? Giving us older cats a Life Long Spirograph Stiffie that started decades ago.
 
No chance Illa wants that smoke again. He knows he lucky.
 
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RockyLockridge said:
There are ex flat earthers?

I thought there was no cure for stupid.
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Yup. Remember the famous "...interesting." moment?


That's the same Jeran guy i mentioned above

Now, to your point that you can't fix stupid, this event didn't actually turn him away from being a flat earther. He's commented since leaving that this moment resulted in some of his most biased and convoluted arguments as he defensively spun even further into flat earth society after this.

I forget what actually did it for him, (probably more of a financial realization, as I've heard stories before of people realizing flat earth is wrong because capitalism would have seized on "edge of the earth" commercialization by now if it existed) but it only lends to what I was saying before, when a group of people decide that evidence isn't good evidence, what else can you do to convince them? And the answer seems to be, wait until they nearly bankrupt themselves, then hope it sinks in
 
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