Social British Muslims in Numbers: Census Summary Report 2025

[Hellowhosthat]

Why would you be against that, if there's no downsides to it?



And no downsides to that, right?



You give mixed signals. On one hand, you get very offended by truthful posts about diversity, Muslims, anything perceived to be race-related... then claim to be anti-immigration. You're always taking issue with anything right-wing, then claim to be right-wing on immigration.

I think any over population of any demographic in an area is harmful to their chances of assimilation into society. I wouldn't say that just applies to Muslims. That's why I'd be against it as I'd like British society to be fundamentally modern British, if people can fit into that society then I don't care what colour they are or what religion they practice if they don't try and force it on me.

I don't consider myself left or right wing. I agree with both sides on certain things and think they're totally full of shit on others.

 

[Tatra]

I think any over population of any demographic in an area is harmful to their chances of assimilation into society. I wouldn't say that just applies to Muslims. That's why I'd be against it as I'd like British society to be fundamentally modern British

There doesn't have to be any overpopulation. Due to a decline in the 'white British' population, Muslims could be brought in to make up for that. The population would simply be kept stable, but a changing one.

So again, why would you be anti-immigration?

What is "modern British"?

if people can fit into that society then I don't care what colour they are or what religion they practice if they don't try and force it on me.

lol you're a leftist. The boomer type, but still a leftist all the same.

This is exactly the mixed signals I'm talking about.

I don't consider myself left or right wing. I agree with both sides on certain things and think they're totally full of shit on others.

It doesn't matter what you consider yourself, it's what you are that counts. You are most definitely left-wing.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

There doesn't have to be any overpopulation. Due to a decline in the 'white British' population, Muslims could be brought in to make up for that. The population would simply be kept stable, but a changing one.

So again, why would you be anti-immigration?

What is "modern British"?



lol you're a leftist. The boomer type, but still a leftist all the same.

This is exactly the mixed signals I'm talking about.



It doesn't matter what you consider yourself, it's what you are that counts. You are most definitely left-wing.

I am for gradual natural depopulation anyway so the population shrinking is fine by me. Don't need to replace anyone imo.

Modern Britain is a generally secular country. I used the word modern because I thought you'd bring Christianity into it if I didn't.

I'm left wing compared to you, but I don't think I'm left wing compared to the average Brit.

 

[Tatra]

Labour readmits four MPs suspended for rebelling

But three other MPs - John McDonnell, Apsana Begum and Zarah Sultana - remain suspended.

www.bbc.co.uk

Speaking of being told what to do, I remember reading about a Muslim MP from Bradford.

He had the audacity to vote against the government on a two-child benefit cap.

He had the whip suspended by Labour.

He's since been reinstated.

Pretty scary stuff. I can see why these nerds are wound up about areas where they don't live and have no knowledge of.

Of course, because Muslims are benefit sponges. They love to live off the tax payer.

 

[Siver!]

Of course, because Muslims are benefit sponges. They love to live off the tax payer.

Especially their children.

I bet most of those Muslim children aren't even working.

 

[curryjunkie]

But you're taking a point I'm not arguing. I said I'm anti immigration, you're saying they're going to flood my neighbourhood with Muslims which I already said I'm against.

And the demographics have obviously changed to being more black and Asian and religiously more Muslim.

I don't see why you seem to have the impression that I'm pro immigration when I've said several times I'm not.

i smell gammon.........which is haram to muslims ironically..

 

[fedoriswar37]

Once the poison infects their community its hard to remove it. Britain will falll to Islam . It's sad because they just let it walk in their front door.

 

[Tatra]

Especially their children.

I bet most of those Muslim children aren't even working.

Oh look, a deflection from the usual suspect. Nope, the adults. They love living off the tax payer.

i smell gammon.........which is haram to muslims ironically..

I do like that your kind always check out these threads but never dare to respond with a counter-argument because you know you can't, so you just sit back and lurk, making the odd insult here and there because that's all you're capable of. Any comment on why you simultaneously support Muslim immigration and LGBT rights, and somehow not view that as a contradiction? No?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The Political Compass

www.politicalcompass.org

I did the political compass out of interest and apparently I'm slightly left wing but not overly so, so there we go.

 

[Siver!]

Oh look, a deflection from the usual suspect. Nope, the adults. They love living off the tax payer.

I don't really feel you have much experience of British Muslims so I'm not going to go into much detail about it with you.

I don't think British Muslims are really your topic of expertise. I'm sure you know a lot about some stuff, but I'm not convinced from your posting history that this is one of those topics. I just don't see any point talking about it with you.

 

[Tatra]

I am for gradual natural depopulation anyway so the population shrinking is fine by me. Don't need to replace anyone imo.

But it's not shrinking, because of immigration. You're not getting overpopulation in these neighbourhoods... you're getting a population transformation (replacement). Why would you be against that?

Modern Britain is a generally secular country

Not for much longer. That's the point.

I'm left wing compared to you, but I don't think I'm left wing compared to the average Brit.

The average Brit is an apolitical, apathetic, empty brute. You have a boomer mindset, which makes you very left-wing.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

But it's not shrinking, because of immigration. You're not getting overpopulation in these neighbourhoods... you're getting a population transformation (replacement). Why would you be against that?



Not for much longer. That's the point.



The average Brit is an apolitical, apathetic, empty brute. You have a boomer mindset, which makes you very left-wing.

I've already told you why I'm against it. You're going round in circles here.

 

[Kassitus]

If anything a lot of immigrants being Muslim is good because the issue is harder to ignore. These stats are always misleading because they include all the old people living to be 100. If you look at births the Anglosphere is essentially already minority-majority. In Canada the arctic and the maritimes are the only provinces where White births are still over 50%. Overall 1 in 3 births are to foreign women, which does not include 2nd generation immigrants. UK, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland all have pretty similar demographic scenarios. The UK is set to be like 85% first generation immigrants in 50 years if the trend continues.

The UK is lucky, because at least their identity has been more resistant to erosion. At least they might someday pull a Kazakhstan and reverse the trend.

 

[Tatra]

I don't really feel you have much experience of British Muslims so I'm not going to go into much detail about it with you.

So based on a "feeling", you decide whether or not to debate me. You people and your desperate attempts to avoid debate. At any cost. lol

I spent most of my life in London. Ilford in particular, where I lived for 10 years. I almost certainly have more experience interacting with Muslims than you. Diversity has its biggest supporters in 95%+ white areas.

I distinctly remember walking down this street (Ley St.) where I lived when I was just 13 years old and seeing cavemen-looking brutes like this (see below) trying to intimidate me in large groups...

Spoiler: where I lived for 10 years

But I'm sure you'll let me know that never happened.

but I'm not convinced from your posting history that this is one of those topics.

Based on what? Be specific?

 

[Tatra]

I've already told you why I'm against it. You're going round in circles here.

You've expressed support for diversity, but then said "no one needs to be replaced" and that you're against immigration, which is exactly what's happening. This is what I mean by mixed signals.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Cantra on the verge of another mental breakdown.

 

[Tatra]

The UK is lucky, because at least their identity has been more resistant to erosion. At least they might someday pull a Kazakhstan and reverse the trend.

The UK has no identity and what does "pull a Kazakhstan" mean?

 

[Siver!]

So based on a "feeling", you decide whether or not to debate me. You people and your desperate attempts to avoid debate. At any cost. lol

I spent most of my life in London. Ilford in particular, where I lived for 10 years. I almost certainly have more experience interacting with Muslims than you.

I've lived in a heavily Muslim-populated area of the UK for 40 years.

If I look out my front window, I have Muslim neighbours across the street.

They bring us food around Eid, Christmas, and other religious festivals (I'm not religious, but it's cute). We return the favour out of courtesy but the religious dates don't really matter to me.

I'm about a 10 minute drive from an urban centre that's heavily Muslim. I walk through it regularly.

I somehow have fewer scare stories than you. That either tells me your scare stories are made up, entirely second hand, or a product of your attitude to other people.

 

[Tatra]

Are you another one of these people who supports both Muslim immigration and LGBT rights?

 

[Tatra]

I somehow have fewer scare stories than you. That either tells me your scare stories are made up, entirely second hand, or a product of your attitude to other people.

Oh, look at that LMAO...

But I'm sure you'll let me know that never happened.

Why'd you ignore this...

Based on what? Be specific?

(in response to you saying "but I'm not convinced from your posting history that this is one of those topics.")