International Brexit Discussion v9: The Last Extension

[Happy Man]

So the Remainer MPs colluded with the EU leadership to undermine the PM? And no one but Brexiteers gives a shit?

Yeah man. These people here democracy when they don’t win a vote.

What is happening now is the ruling class trying to deny the will of the people. It’s eye opening that people believe what the ruling class media tell them to believe. The propaganda works.

 

[deise69]

Yeah man. These people here democracy when they don’t win a vote.

What is happening now is the ruling class trying to deny the will of the people. It’s eye opening that people believe what the ruling class media tell them to believe. The propaganda works.

 

[whougonnacall]

What is happening now is the ruling class trying to deny the will of the people. It’s eye opening that people believe what the ruling class media tell them to believe. The propaganda works.

The same ruling class that make up the hard right tories and their superich backers pushing exit from the eu for decades are also against it now?
They are denying the will of the people by opposing something a majority are now against ?

Funny how the elites suddenly pushed for this just as the eu was set to cut down on their tax haven loopholes isnt it ?

 

[Gl0kta]

The same ruling class that make up the hard right tories and their superich backers pushing exit from the eu for decades are also against it now?
They are denying the will of the people by opposing something a majority are now against ?

Funny how the elites suddenly pushed for this just as the eu was set to cut down on their tax haven loopholes isnt it ?

The people's conduct has been appalling - they deliberately ignored the referendum result in the last general election and voted the wrong way. How undemocratic of them.

 

[JDragon]

Amber Rudd stepping down.

 

[whougonnacall]

The people's conduct has been appalling - they deliberately ignored the referendum result in the last general election and voted the wrong way. How undemocratic of them.

The people are bastards ! How dare they alter their minds just because facts have come to light

 

[Arkain2K]

Amber Rudd today announces that she is resigning from the cabinet and quitting the Conservative Party over Boris Johnson’s “purge” of the party and his “failure” to pursue a deal with the EU.

 

[JDragon]

Polls are not kind to Johnson, but people just hate Corbyn, with 84% of the electorate not considering him the best candidate:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...d-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week

Overall, Johnson's strategy seems to be working in that he is gaining voters back from the Brexit party.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Amber Rudd today announces that she is resigning from the cabinet and quitting the Conservative Party over Boris Johnson’s “purge” of the party and his “failure” to pursue a deal with the EU.

Oh no! Now who's going to fetch the tea and sandwiches for the cabinet meetings!<Lmaoo>

 

[Gl0kta]

Yougov has the Torys on both their lowest voter share since the war and streets ahead of Labour.

Guess it's down to the mid ground waiting a change but unable to face voting for Corbyn.

Sets up the story for a 180 somewhere down the line when Corbyn finally throws in the towel and there's a mass migration back to Labour.

 

[JDragon]

So what's the opinion here on Boris Johnson's rumored plan to defy the Brexit law?

I am torn. On the one hand, I find laws that prescribe specific foreign policy actions pretty strange in general. Representing the country toward foreign powers usually is the prerogative of the executive.

On the other hand, there is a valid law that Boris Johnson plans to act against. Of course there are potential sanctions, but the damage would likely be done by the time judges reach a verdict. If Boris went through with this, this would shake the foundations of rule of law and should be condemned by anyone believing in its importance. I don't think this can be a case of the end justifying the means.

 

[JDragon]

Yougov has the Torys on both their lowest voter share since the war and streets ahead of Labour.

Guess it's down to the mid ground waiting a change but unable to face voting for Corbyn.

Sets up the story for a 180 somewhere down the line when Corbyn finally throws in the towel and there's a mass migration back to Labour.

Corbyn is firmly entrenched imo. The very fact that anti-Semitism and being pro-Brexit could not bring him down is a good indicator, but another one is that there are no credible challengers left imo (might be that some emerged in the last months, didn't follow that too closely).

 

[Gl0kta]

Corbyn is firmly entrenched imo. The very fact that anti-Semitism and being pro-Brexit could not bring him down is a good indicator, but another one is that there are no credible challengers left imo (might be that some emerged in the last months, didn't follow that too closely).

Yeap Corbyn' s staying put for the foreseeable. He's over 70 now so doubt he would stick around for the following one, doubly so if he flops.

Corbyn has created a massive problem for the UK parliamentary system, as the Torys lurched right Labour should have taken up the middle ground and hovered up moderate votes. It's a natural safety valve that's been short circuited.

 

[Arkain2K]

Corbyn is firmly entrenched imo. The very fact that anti-Semitism and being pro-Brexit could not bring him down is a good indicator, but another one is that there are no credible challengers left imo (might be that some emerged in the last months, didn't follow that too closely).

The fact that Venezuela's implosion couldn't hurt the career of Britain's #1 Chavista says a lot about the extraordinary times we are in.

I honestly can't believe the same guy who held Venezuela as the role model for the U.K to aspire to is now in the conversations about Britain's next Prime Minister, with hundreds of Labour MPs rallying behind him.

Brexit may be a dumpster fire, but I can't even imagine the long-term damage that Dear Leader Corbyn could inflict on this institution if he somehow slithers his way into Number 10.

 

[IGIT]

What is happening now is the ruling class trying to deny the will of the people.

hi Happy Man,

"the people" did not vote for a no-deal Brexit.

they voted for blowjobs and rainbows, but alas, it turns out there are no blowjobs and no rainbows.

so they're reluctant to march off the cliff that Boris is ushering them towards.

- IGIT

 

[deise69]

 

[Teen Wolf]

 

[KeepItRealist]

Some good news for the UK.

Infamous dwarf cuckold Bercow is finally standing down to spend more time with his wife and her fellas.

 

[Arkain2K]

Law against "no-deal" Brexit gets royal rubber stamp as Parliament set to be suspended
BY HALEY OTT | SEPTEMBER 9, 2019

London — Britain's Queen Elizabeth II approved legislation Monday making it illegal for Prime Minister Boris Johnson to take the U.K. out of the European Union without an agreement or the consent of Parliament on October 31. The announcement came hours before a 5-week parliamentary shutdown was scheduled to come into effect.

Last Wednesday, Parliament passed the so-called "no-deal" legislation, which — now that it has been rubber stamped by the Queen — forces Johnson to ask the EU for a three-month extension to the October 31 Brexit deadline, unless Parliament approves a new withdrawal agreement or votes to allow a "no-deal" divorce by October 19.

Johnson has promised to take the U.K. out of the EU by October 31 regardless of whether or not a deal is in place. Though he insists he would rather there be a deal, he scheduled a parliamentary shutdown from Monday until October 14 that reduces the number of working days lawmakers would have to try to avert a no-deal Brexit. Members of Parliament (MPs) were expected to vote against another call by Johnson for a snap general election on Monday.

Two applications had been made for emergency Parliamentary debates on Monday, one about the rule of law and the other to press for the disclosure of internal communications between a group of Johnson aides regarding the suspension of Parliament as well as documents relating to the government's plan for a no-deal Brexit since July 23, BBC News reported.

Also on Monday, the long-time speaker of the House of Commons, John Bercow, announced his resignation. In a tearful speech, Bercow, who has served as speaker for 10 years, said he would step down by October 31 at the latest. In his resignation speech, he spoke fondly of his time in the role while giving a stark warning to his fellow MPs:

"We degrade this Parliament at our peril," he told the House of Commons.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/br...-parliament-to-be-suspended-today-2019-09-09/

 

[Arkain2K]