Economy Brexit has completely failed for UK, say clear majority of Britons – poll

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Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll
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A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

Ominously for prime minister Rishi Sunak, who backed Brexit and claimed it would be economically beneficial, only 7% of people think it has helped keep down prices in UK shops, against 63% who think Brexit has been a factor in fuelling inflation and the cost of living crisis.

The poll suggests that seven and a half years on from the referendum the British public now regards Brexit as a failure. Just 22% of voters believe it has been good for the UK in general.

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The Vote Leave campaign led by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove had promised that Brexit would boost the economy and trade, as well as bring back £350m a week into the NHS and allow the government to take back control of the UK’s borders.

James Crouch, head of policy and public affairs at Opinium, said the perception of Brexit being handled badly and having had negative effects on various aspect of UK life appeared to be spreading: “Public discontent at how Brexit has been handled by the government continues, with perceived failings even in areas previously seen as a potential benefit from leaving the EU.

“More than half (53%) of leave voters now think that Brexit has been bad for the UK’s ability to control immigration, piling even more pressure on an issue the government is vulnerable on. Despite this, Brexit is likely to be a secondary issue at the next election compared to the state of the economy and the NHS, which are the clear priority for voters.”

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Robert Ford, professor of political science at Manchester University, said that while there was now evidence that negative perceptions of Brexit, particularly on the economy, could have an effect on votes at a general election, Brexit was very unlikely to play such a direct role as it did at the last two general elections.

Ford said: “Voters’ attention has shifted decisively elsewhere, with leave and remain voters alike focused on the domestic agenda of rising bills, struggling public services and weak economic growth.

“The appeal of ‘Get Brexit Done’ was not just about completing the long Brexit process but also about unblocking the political system and delivering on other long-neglected issues. Brexit got done, but this has not unblocked the political system, and troubles elsewhere have only deepened. Many of the voters who backed the Conservatives to deliver change now look convinced that achieving change requires ejecting the Conservatives.

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“This shift in sentiment may be particularly stark among the ‘red wall’ voters who rallied most eagerly to Johnson’s banner four years ago, but have been most exposed to rising bills and collapsing public services since. The final act of Brexit may yet be the collapse of the Brexit electoral coalition.”

One of the key claims of the Brexiters was that leaving the EU’s single market and customs union would usher in a new era of global trade for the UK based on trade deals with other parts of the world. Many voters now seem to have concluded that Brexit has in fact been bad for trade. Some 49% think it has been bad for the ability of UK firms to import goods from outside the EU, while 15% think it has helped.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs

 
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I really don't know how anyone who was looking at this from an economic perspective would have concluded anything else.

Looks like it didn't even help with the populism stuff either.

Also the irony of this:
He added that he believed the UK would increasingly have to focus on measures to boost trade with the EU, which had suffered post-Brexit as a result of leaving the single market and customs union.
 
Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll
307718650_403748138599392_9068020980453063015_n.jpg


A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

Ominously for prime minister Rishi Sunak, who backed Brexit and claimed it would be economically beneficial, only 7% of people think it has helped keep down prices in UK shops, against 63% who think Brexit has been a factor in fuelling inflation and the cost of living crisis.

The poll suggests that seven and a half years on from the referendum the British public now regards Brexit as a failure. Just 22% of voters believe it has been good for the UK in general.

buck-house-550.jpg

The Vote Leave campaign led by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove had promised that Brexit would boost the economy and trade, as well as bring back £350m a week into the NHS and allow the government to take back control of the UK’s borders.

James Crouch, head of policy and public affairs at Opinium, said the perception of Brexit being handled badly and having had negative effects on various aspect of UK life appeared to be spreading: “Public discontent at how Brexit has been handled by the government continues, with perceived failings even in areas previously seen as a potential benefit from leaving the EU.

“More than half (53%) of leave voters now think that Brexit has been bad for the UK’s ability to control immigration, piling even more pressure on an issue the government is vulnerable on. Despite this, Brexit is likely to be a secondary issue at the next election compared to the state of the economy and the NHS, which are the clear priority for voters.”

c6c1242ca8c1e6ffcf0deedaebb6fe13.jpg

Robert Ford, professor of political science at Manchester University, said that while there was now evidence that negative perceptions of Brexit, particularly on the economy, could have an effect on votes at a general election, Brexit was very unlikely to play such a direct role as it did at the last two general elections.

Ford said: “Voters’ attention has shifted decisively elsewhere, with leave and remain voters alike focused on the domestic agenda of rising bills, struggling public services and weak economic growth.

“The appeal of ‘Get Brexit Done’ was not just about completing the long Brexit process but also about unblocking the political system and delivering on other long-neglected issues. Brexit got done, but this has not unblocked the political system, and troubles elsewhere have only deepened. Many of the voters who backed the Conservatives to deliver change now look convinced that achieving change requires ejecting the Conservatives.

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“This shift in sentiment may be particularly stark among the ‘red wall’ voters who rallied most eagerly to Johnson’s banner four years ago, but have been most exposed to rising bills and collapsing public services since. The final act of Brexit may yet be the collapse of the Brexit electoral coalition.”

One of the key claims of the Brexiters was that leaving the EU’s single market and customs union would usher in a new era of global trade for the UK based on trade deals with other parts of the world. Many voters now seem to have concluded that Brexit has in fact been bad for trade. Some 49% think it has been bad for the ability of UK firms to import goods from outside the EU, while 15% think it has helped.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs


Curious how covid and global inflation played a part. Cant say whether good or bad myself as I dont live there but def complex
 
The most half-baked political concept that took place in my lifetime (at least the part where I was paying attention).

A mess of an idea presented by buffoons with no ability to fulfil their promises.
 
It was always clear from the start that the EU wanted to punish the UK as much as they could to make an example out of them and deter other nations from doing the same.
 
It was always clear from the start that the EU wanted to punish the UK as much as they could to make an example out of them and deter other nations from doing the same.
They didn't punish the UK. They treated the UK as a nation that wasn't part of the EU. The problem with the Brexit crowd was that they thought the EU would give them preferential treatment because they're the UK (sort of like how the US treats the UK). They thought they were more important than they really were and assumed that they had more leverage than they really had.
 
The eu literally did nothing. The UK left and now don't get benefits from the common market. That all.

Exactly, the EU isn't doing anything. They could work together in many different ways that would benefit both the UK and the EU but the EU is blocking any kind of cooperation because they only want full control.
 
Exactly, the EU isn't doing anything. They could work together in many different ways that would benefit both the UK and the EU but the EU is blocking any kind of cooperation because they only want full control.
There's not much they can do. If they start letting the UK have shared market benefits without even being a member in someway it is contradictory and says a bad message. What would you expect them to do?
 
It was always clear from the start that the EU wanted to punish the UK as much as they could to make an example out of them and deter other nations from doing the same.
Cant say myself but the UK has a trade deficit of £92 billion with the EU compared to a £5 billion surplus with non-EU countries. Not saying punishment but definitely not working in their favor.
 
Exactly, the EU isn't doing anything. They could work together in many different ways that would benefit both the UK and the EU but the EU is blocking any kind of cooperation because they only want full control.
They were already working together, you tool. Then the UK made the sold-through-a-campaign-of-lies idiotic decision to "Brexit". It's ridiculous to think the EU has any responsibility whatsoever to the UK after that.
 
Cant say myself but the UK has a trade deficit of £92 billion with the EU compared to a £5 billion surplus with non-EU countries. Not saying punishment but definitely not working in their favor.
And why the fuck should it?
 
There's not much they can do. If they start letting the UK have shared market benefits without even being a member in someway it is contradictory and says a bad message. What would you expect them to do?
It was the great flaw with the Brexit argument. That they could leave the EU but still reap the benefits.

When reality hit, people call the EU "mean" for not doing the UK any favors. But the UK didn't do the EU any favors by pulling out. They hurt a lot of companies and workers who were working in the UK. And the UK did it precisely because they thought the EU was bad for them. It's inexplicable that they thought they could give the EU a big middle finger and then have the EU still bend over to help them.
 
It was the great flaw with the Brexit argument. That they could leave the EU but still reap the benefits.

When reality hit, people call the EU "mean" for not doing the UK any favors. But the UK didn't do the EU any favors by pulling out. They hurt a lot of companies and workers who were working in the UK. And the UK did it precisely because they thought the EU was bad for them. It's inexplicable that they thought they could give the EU a big middle finger and then have the EU still bend over to help them.
Thank you for saying this so much more eloquently, if not as succinctly, as I.
 
Cant say myself but the UK has a trade deficit of £92 billion with the EU compared to a £5 billion surplus with non-EU countries. Not saying punishment but definitely not working in their favor.
Of course they have a trade deficit with the EU. They were getting huge trade benefits from the free movement of labor and capital. The UK is a small island country on the outskirts of Europe. Not having to negotiate with the entirety of Europe but having free access to that consumer base and their skilled labor pool was massive for them.
 
Of course they have a trade deficit with the EU. They were getting huge trade benefits from the free movement of labor and capital. The UK is a small island country on the outskirts of Europe. Not having to negotiate with the entirety of Europe but having free access to that consumer base and their skilled labor pool was massive for them.
Guess this is the new way. The UK always had a stronger currency so I get not taking the euro but non-EU countries trade lots with the EU. But again, I'm not over there so I havent read a lot on it.
 
Exactly, the EU isn't doing anything. They could work together in many different ways that would benefit both the UK and the EU but the EU is blocking any kind of cooperation because they only want full control.

What specifics are informing your thinking here?

I'm not ruling out a bit of shenanigans on the EU's part, as there probably was a degree of reluctance, but what outright examples are there of the EU punishing the UK in a manner that otherwise makes no sense?
 
They were already working together, you tool. Then the UK made the sold-through-a-campaign-of-lies idiotic decision to "Brexit". It's ridiculous to think the EU has any responsibility whatsoever to the UK after that.

Completely delusional take. I expect my country to make beneficial trade agreements and all others kind of beneficial arrangements with other countries when it's on my best interest. In this case my country, or rather these unelected bureaucrats in the EU who represent me, are deliberately hurting us to try and make an example out of the UK.

The EU and all of its countries don't have a responsibility towards the UK, they have one towards their own people. And they're failing massively. Sadly they'll probably last a few more decades before we see a full collapse.
 

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