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The real president has spoken
Well, they voted for Trump so...I guess if they're a mouth-breathing retard.
Lower class shouldn't be a class of luxury.
CBO had a whole pageful of uncertainties.Based on the CBO report.
Serious question: How old are you? I'm 35, so I do remember healthcare pre-Obama. I ended up in the hospital with mono when I was 24 and no insurance. That was a fun little $10k bill to pay while I was trying to struggle through grad school part time.Do you people remember we had healthcare without government before 2009, guess what, we survived as a country... We actually managed pretty damn well. But according to Big Government Control Democrats, if we take back healthcare away from government...it's going to be a fucking genocide. This is why no one takes you seriously and why you lost the election, not Russians.
Not in every other developed nation (and also several undeveloped ones) except America, no.So Healthcare doesn't exist without government?
Yeah, socialized medicine is such a disaster. That's why for the last 30 years the most persistent topic of debate across the rest of the civilized world besides America has been how to get rid of that damned socialized medicine!Well I've lived in America and Ireland. Speaking of socialised healthcare in Ireland, it's wank - but I'm sure you'll try tell me different having never experienced it first hand.
So Healthcare doesn't exist without government?
CBO had a whole pageful of uncertainties.
is there anything that prevents an individual states to cover preexsiting conditions? I dont see why they couldnt do that.
I'm tired of paying high premiums AND high deductibles, most people will probably have coverage for that sort of stuff, and we lived for decades with that clause, it wasnt a big deal.
so we have a default plan prior to obama, that had no protection for pre-existing conditions.... it failed
obamacare, protection for pre-existing conditions..... it failed
what do they have in common? Private health insurance.
we're nowhere close to UHC, so I'm ok if they remove that clause and kick it down the road. I'm ok with the rest of the health care bill, some parts look like they will indeed do a lot to lower overall costs of health care in this country. Either way, I'm glad this discussion is happening rather than sit idle and let obamacare crush us.
Didn't before Obamacare. Won't after Obamacare.
Repeat after me:
"The free market, doesn't give a shit about people."
The real president has spoken
You understood what I meant by the house comment.
My specific issue is that the private sector and the public sector are two vastly different things, and when you mentioned in another thread that you voted for Trump "on principle" because he's a "businessman", I was severely disappointed, as you seem like a decently bright contributor here. I'm not going to even go into the fact that Trump being a business genius is highly debatable. A million dollars invested in real estate in the 70's is not rocket science, it's more of a silver spoon.
Is 'driving for the best bargain possible' what you want your health insurance to do when your mother needs open heart surgery?
I'll say it again because it's an important point. Not everything of social value is profitable, and business is measured by one metric, profitability.