BREAKING: Donald Trump Jr.’s Russia emails shake the presidency ***UPDATE: Gowdy Excoriates Trump***

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Was that today?

Earlier today he was carrying on like some clam who's been cheating with trump behind their wives backs.

 

[Witchhunt]

They're blackmailing with a scat video of him and Monica Lewinsky.

You didn't read the post

 

[JSnake]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but this seems like a pretty big deal to me.

It's as big of a deal as all the past accusations they've made when the Trump campaign has met with Russians... which was inflated to the extreme, contained no smoking gun evidence and thus amounted to nothing. You could even say it's less so, because this lawyer is not an official of the Russian government, this was not a meeting that was undisclosed, or secretly prearranged by both sides with any fruitful outcome.

Smoking gun evidence would come in the form of actual documentable communications with Russia/Putin himself outlining their collusion. And if the people that believe this Russia narrative also share the belief that Trump is some shortsighted buffoon that cannot control himself, then that would support the case even more that such evidence would exist; he would've made communications with Putin after his election victory guaranteed, if not on the very same night, and would've had no clue he was being surveilled.

Instead we're getting this drawn-out 'gotcha' game that places its hopes on Trump campaign members saying the wrong words, conflating anyone that's Russian as being part of the Russian government or that defends them as being a Russian agent... when if they had actual smoking gun evidence to begin with, they wouldn't even need testimony or to ask further questions.

So this comes more as a revelation of the lack of evidence that the investigation has actually yielded. If this is the best they've got after all this time, then they must truly be in desperation mode. Having to rely on campaign laws which Hillary's campaign could be demonstrated to have broken themselves (and even worse than that), yet turning a blind eye and just focusing on the Trump campaign only exemplifies what it truly is; a political witch hunt.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

 

[HOLA]

Sean Hannity couldn't suck Trumps dick anymore than he was doing today on his radio show

He claimed he's gonna reveal how all this is a fake plot by the democrats. Lmao.

Sean hannity is rat feces

Right. Right after he gets waterboarded and releases the Seth Rich info.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

It is very funny that the majority of the initial posts in here were from posters, wanting to jump on any bad news of Trump. The same posters, who were also first to post in the comparable thread anout tthe DNC bombshell, writing it off as "hollary lost, get over it", among other, similar responses.

This presidency is funny and entertaining.

So it's funny that Hillary's daughter, campaign manager, surrogates and cabinet members lied about multiple meting with Ukraine over and over and over and that she openly asked Ukraine on a podium to hack the GOP. Its also funny that Hillary fired the guy who was investigating one if her cabinet picks.

Oh wait none of that happened. I'm thinking of team Trump. Silly me

 

[Wally Brando]

That same law should apply to the DNC getting dirt on Trump from Ukrainian officials, or for them hiring Steele to go pay Russia for the Steele Dossier, no?

If that law is interpreted the way you are interpreting it, pretty much every politician ever would be guilty of breaking it.

But besides, she didn't make any contribution to their campaign. The information had no value and was not used, nor was anything exchanged for it.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal

The information she offered was the thing of value.


PS. The article above contains all the info on what specific statute Jr violated so you can stop asking everyone to name it and engage in some actual fucking debate. He broke the law and colluded with the Russian government. Debate the facts not the meaning of reality.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Trump Jr.‘s decision to take the meeting in and of itself likely violated campaign finance law, which does not require you to actually get anything useful from foreigners. In other words, the mere fact that Trump Jr. asked for information from a Russian national about Clinton might have constituted a federal crime.

“The law states that no person shall knowingly solicit or accept from a foreign national any contribution to a campaign of an item of value,” Goodman tells me. “There is now a clear case that Donald Trump Jr. has met all the elements of the law, which is a criminally enforced federal statute.”

Why Trump Jr. may have broken the law
The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns. There are two key passages that apply here. This is the first:

A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal

What are some examples of things not of "value".

Criminalizing the simple receipt of information is a clear violation of the right to free speech. Hard to believe any honest person thinks that statute was meant to prevent someone from hearing something.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Right. Right after he gets waterboarded and releases the Seth Rich info.

Pretty much. He said something along the lines of how he was gonna uncover the truth to this story.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Trump Jr.‘s decision to take the meeting in and of itself likely violated campaign finance law, which does not require you to actually get anything useful from foreigners. In other words, the mere fact that Trump Jr. asked for information from a Russian national about Clinton might have constituted a federal crime.

“The law states that no person shall knowingly solicit or accept from a foreign national any contribution to a campaign of an item of value,” Goodman tells me. “There is now a clear case that Donald Trump Jr. has met all the elements of the law, which is a criminally enforced federal statute.”

Why Trump Jr. may have broken the law
The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns. There are two key passages that apply here. This is the first:

A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal

Name what Donald Jr. received that was of "value."

 

[Wally Brando]

What are some examples of things not of "value".

Criminalizing the simple receipt of information is a clear violation of the right to free speech. Hard to believe any honest person thinks that statute was meant to prevent someone from hearing something.

The information was the thing of value so says the actual legal experts in the article you apparently didn't read. Now let's argue if the repubs will do anything about it or not; not about the meaning of words.

 

[Jack V Savage]

20% of Hillary's campaign financing came from Saudi Arabia.
Do you think we should investigate Hillary's Saudi ties?

If you have evidence that she received a single dime for her campaign from any foreign national, you should report it, as that would be a big story. But made-up stuff doesn't count.

 

[Wally Brando]

Name what Donald Jr. received that was of "value."

Research work that you would have to pay firms to find for you otherwise. It doesn't matter if this is what he got. He went there with the intent of obtaining something of value from a foreign agent in exchange for the easing of sanctions (as admitted to by Jr himself).

 

[KantoTerror]

He's committed obstruction of justice and both previous presidents were impeached on that charge. But eh, history. Also congress can basically impeach for whatever they want so........

Sure congress can impeach. but does it warrant impeaching a president because of numbers? Impeach him if he committed an impeachable offense...not because DNC got numbers you know it's never a good idea to start a trend like that. It's a waste of resources.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Trump Jr.‘s decision to take the meeting in and of itself likely violated campaign finance law, which does not require you to actually get anything useful from foreigners. In other words, the mere fact that Trump Jr. asked for information from a Russian national about Clinton might have constituted a federal crime.

“The law states that no person shall knowingly solicit or accept from a foreign national any contribution to a campaign of an item of value,” Goodman tells me. “There is now a clear case that Donald Trump Jr. has met all the elements of the law, which is a criminally enforced federal statute.”

Why Trump Jr. may have broken the law
The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns. There are two key passages that apply here. This is the first:

A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal

I am not excusing anything.... so every illegal alien that donated and the candidate that accepts broke the law? Interesting.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Research work that you would have to pay firms to find for you otherwise. It doesn't matter if this is what he got. He went there with the intent of obtaining something of value from a foreign agent in exchange for the easing of sanctions (as admitted to by Jr himself).

Easing of sanctions? Where is that stated?

 

[Wally Brando]

Sure congress can impeach. but does it warrant impeaching a president because of numbers? Impeach him if he committed an impeachable offense...not because DNC got numbers you know it's never a good idea to start a trend like that. It's a waste of resources.

He obstructed justice, which is an impeachable offence.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

This shit just gets disseminated from HQ ( https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/ ) so fast, it's amazing.

Holy shit! Everything in there is pure ct tard spin. Very cringy.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Lol gonna have to pardon your own son

 

[HOLA]

Overlooked, I think, was that the emails said something like "as part ofRussia and it's government assistance to your father"

You'd think, if that was the first junior heard of it, he would have been inquisitive. But he just got "oh, yeah let's rock n' roll!"

There will be more and more leaks.