Breakdown of Ngannou open boxing session

[DoctorTaco]

Francis has a very scary physique, but statistically he is far from the biggest puncher in the UFC hwt division.

His story is special. His personality is special. His physical appearance is special, but if you compare the numbers- knock out wins, TKOs, decisions, and put him on paper next to other hwts the numbers aren’t special.

 

[Tuvatuva]

2) Francis straight right isn't nearly as hard or as fast as Wilder's but everything he else throws is better and more dangerous than Wilder.

Where do you get stuff like this? Based on what?

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

These are open workouts lol. The amount of times ive seen people go like 25% in opens, looking like absolute shit.

Not saying Francis is gonna look like some world beater come fight night, but better to give the world the impression you are shit going in. Mike is not an idiot. He understand fight psychology very, very well.

 

[Sharkhunter]

Lol...as if Rogan called a pre ufc Mike perry boxing match. Joke's on you turd.

Whats that retard?

 

[Copper Burner]

Where do you get stuff like this? Based on what?

Have you ever noticed that Francis barely ever gets a chance to land a combo against an opponent? He ends up wrecking guys by landing one heavy shot. He doesn't have to load up his punches either. Look at the short shot that dropped Cain. You could barely see a punch was thrown.

 

[cmw43]

And really what sounds more fun ? Leveling the playing field for athletes in two different sports or pretending to care about a plodding stiff who will easily get picked apart ?

Fury holds the title in Boxing and neither guy is interested in bare Knuckle boxing.

I'm not really sure how Francis is even getting sanctioned for this fight as a debuting boxer against the champ.

 

[cmw43]

I don't think Ngannou cares now about money but more about not having regret to the one thing he always wanted to do, have to remember it was his first coach that talked him into MMA.

I'm pretty sure money is all Francis cares about.

Why else would he put himself in a fight where it's a 90%+ chance he takes a beating and get embarrassed? Because of the money.

His first coach talked him into MMA because he thought it was his best chance for success.

 

[TheGreatA]

Mike is almost twice Ngannou's age yet he looks much faster and smoother in his movements.

Ngannou just doesn't have the coordination to pull off the moves that Mike is showing him. If there's anybody that he should try to learn from, it's George Foreman. That jab needs to be much more impactful, and he should use his physical strength to his advantage.

Fury is not used to being bullied physically, yet Ngannou could be the guy to do it, for a couple of rounds before he inevitably gasses. Nobody has ever questioned how strong he is.

 

[The Bloody Nine]

Mike is almost twice Ngannou's age yet he looks much faster and smoother in his movements.

Ngannou just doesn't have the coordination to pull off the moves that Mike is showing him. If there's anybody that he should try to learn from, it's George Foreman. That jab needs to be much more impactful, and he should use his physical strength to his advantage.

Fury is not used to being bullied physically, yet Ngannou could be the guy to do it, for a couple of rounds before he inevitably gasses. Nobody has ever questioned how strong he is.

I'm curious. How do you see Francis "bullying" Fury? Do you think Fury has never had to deal with a leaden footed, plodding can like Francis before?

 

[TheGreatA]

I'm curious. How do you see Francis "bullying" Fury? Do you think Fury has never had to deal with a leaden footed, plodding can like Francis before?

He's not going to bully Fury with his boxing skills, but if he can get a hold of him in the clinches and maybe bend the rules a bit, Fury will be surprised at how strong this guy really is. It's not the same as dealing with a lanky Deontay Wilder who has only practised throwing punches his whole life. Ngannou is a 270 lb man who can grapple.

The problem is that Ngannou is probably too slow and uncoordinated to put himself into a situation where his strength might be of use.

 

[USADA&NYSAC]

Mike is almost twice Ngannou's age yet he looks much faster and smoother in his movements.

Ngannou just doesn't have the coordination to pull off the moves that Mike is showing him. If there's anybody that he should try to learn from, it's George Foreman. That jab needs to be much more impactful, and he should use his physical strength to his advantage.

Fury is not used to being bullied physically, yet Ngannou could be the guy to do it, for a couple of rounds before he inevitably gasses. Nobody has ever questioned how strong he is.

I don't think that would really happen regardless, Fury is the much bigger man. Francis carries a lot of mass and while sure he's stronger , it just won't cross over in boxing. Fury will just roll with it, plus look who he's already fought ? Wladimir was more of a physical specimen then Ngannou.

 

[TheGreatA]

I don't think that would really happen regardless, Fury is the much bigger man. Francis carries a lot of mass and while sure he's stronger , it just won't cross over in boxing. Fury will just roll with it, plus look who he's already fought ? Wladimir was more of a physical specimen then Ngannou.

How is Fury bigger? Taller, sure, but they weigh about the same and Ngannou is clearly in better shape.

Wlad is like 20 pounds lighter than Ngannou. He weighed 245 to Fury's 247, I'm not sure Ngannou has ever weighed much less than 260. Apparently he walks around at nearly 300 pounds.

 

[kingmob6]

ngannou is going to get schooled. I can't see him beating fury.

 

[PBAC]

 

[prikoke]

How is Fury bigger? Taller, sure, but they weigh about the same and Ngannou is clearly in better shape.

Wlad is like 20 pounds lighter than Ngannou. He weighed 245 to Fury's 247, I'm not sure Ngannou has ever weighed much less than 260. Apparently he walks around at nearly 300 pounds.

Someone who knows better than me should confirm, isn't being taller advantageous in boxing clinches, even at equal weight, because of better leverage?

Also, a lot of the grappling tools that Francis has learned in MMA would not be tolerated in a boxing fight.

 

[djacobox372]

Where do you get stuff like this? Based on what?

Based on watching fights. The only thing wilder throws with anything behind it is the straight right (discounting the windmill crap he throws when he has guys hurt).

Of course Wilder about 1000% better at landing that straight right than Francis is at landing anything else, but Francis does have more weapons--I would also guess that Francis doesn't need as much space to generate power.

Francis's best/favorite punch is the uppercut and we all know that Fury is vulnerable to those:

 

[Tuvatuva]

Based on watching fights. The only thing wilder throws with anything behind it is the straight right (discounting the windmill crap he throws when he has guys hurt).

Of course Wilder about 1000% better at landing that straight right than Francis is at landing anything else, but Francis does have more weapons--I would also guess that Francis doesn't need as much space to generate power.

Francis's best/favorite punch is the uppercut and we all know that Fury is vulnerable to those:

None of that matters. An mma fighter throwing relatively throwing good hooks against mma fighters in an mma fight means nothing when comparing him to a world champion in boxing.

I had a good left hook when I boxed, it was my best punch, against other guys my level lol. There's levels to this. I feel like I shouldn't even have to say this.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Have you ever noticed that Francis barely ever gets a chance to land a combo against an opponent? He ends up wrecking guys by landing one heavy shot. He doesn't have to load up his punches either. Look at the short shot that dropped Cain. You could barely see a punch was thrown.

Just over half his fights have ended with a francis KO/tko. Leaves a lot to be desired

I'm pretty sure money is all Francis cares about.

Why else would he put himself in a fight where it's a 90%+ chance he takes a beating and get embarrassed? Because of the money.

His first coach talked him into MMA because he thought it was his best chance for success.

They’re prize fighters. Money is the number one thing they all care about. Promoters have to offer them enough money before they care about legacy, testing themselves, and enjoyment of the sport.

Someone who knows better than me should confirm, isn't being taller advantageous in boxing clinches, even at equal weight, because of better leverage?

Also, a lot of the grappling tools that Francis has learned in MMA would not be tolerated in a boxing fight.

you make the shorter man carry you when you clinch up with them. You keep your hips back and fold over to smother them and force them to wet blanket carry you. It’s draining and obnoxious.

 

[mozfonky]

Who's doing the breakdown? The security guard from Running Man?

probably someone from his homeland.

Anyway, this is a dumb fight. I hope the guy makes some money though which is why he left the UFC. He'd have a chance if fury had anchors tied to each foot but mma guys absolutely are lost outside of their game.

 

[mozfonky]

Well thank you and thanks for checking in.


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