Boycotting PPV ... WILL NOT WASTE $80+ AGAIN ... Unless

[Edward Henry Greb]

Honestly, last night's sickening card rubbed me the wrong way. (Many other fights have also, we've all been rubbed the wrong way, but last night was the end of an era for me.)

I've typically bought almost every UFC Fight but no more.

1. I am tired of "paid sparring," lack of cajones/effort, as well as blatant quits + early ref stoppages.
2. I am tired of media and entertainment, but no actual fighter shows up TO FIGHT and TO FINISH.

In looking at the current UFC roster, there is almost no one who inspires me to spend $80+ anymore.
For that reason, I will no longer be spending my PPV money on any fight ... unless they include the following proven fighters,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

HEAVYWEIGHT

• Jon Jones
• Stipe Miocic
• Tom Aspinall

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

• Alex Pereira
• Jiri Procházka
• Magomed Ankalaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MIDDLEWEIGHT

• Israel Adesanya
• Dricus du Plessis
• Khamzat Chimaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WELTERWEIGHT

• Jack Della Maddalena
• Shavkat Rakhmonov

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHTWEIGHT

• Islam Makhachev
• Charles Olivera
• Armen Tsarykyan
• Max Holloway

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FEATHERWEIGHT

• Ilia Topuria
• Max Holloway
• Arnold Allen
• Calvin Kattar

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BANTAMWEIGHT

• Sean O'Malley
• Merab Dvalishvili
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FLYWEIGHT

• Alexandre Pantoja
• Brandon Moreno
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.



PS: This is not "fighter bashing" — it's my right, as the paying customer, to reassess what I am willing to pay for and what I am not.

Me personally, I never want to see any "points fighter" — I want to see a finisher.
Dude may not get the finish, but you can feel in your bones he's looking for it.

Fighters who consistently fail ...
Fighters who sull-up and "wait for a ref stoppages" ...
Fighters who make me feel like they are "sparring" ... rather than seriously "trying to win" ...

I will no longer buy a PPV Event if they are headlining.

Only will pay to see real prospects, who really are capable of keeping/winning a Championship, and who really try until the last.

 

[MrKontakos]

So at most four guys in any division aren't actual cans? Okay lmfao.

 

[mirko>anyone]

We care a lot.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Sherdog: "How dare someone not mindlessly enjoy everything the UFC puts out!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE-"

 

[Soggust]

I mean, just to include 1/25 dope fighters, idk how much you are really boycotting here.

You gonna boycott the next Canadian Pennington/Pena card?

Not talking shit, just like you know what I mean lol? Prolly a lotta dudes with you anyway.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Honestly, last night's sickening card rubbed me the wrong way. (Many other fights have also, we've all been rubbed the wrong way, but last night was the end of an era for me.)

I've typically bought almost every UFC Fight but no more.

1. I am tired of "paid sparring," lack of cajones/effort, as well as blatant quits + early ref stoppages.
2. I am tired of media and entertainment, but no actual fighter shows up TO FIGHT and TO FINISH.

In looking at the current UFC roster, there is almost no one who inspires me to spend $80+ anymore.
For that reason, I will no longer be spending my PPV money on any fight ... unless they include the following proven fighters,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

HEAVYWEIGHT

• Jon Jones
• Stipe Miocic
• Tom Aspinall

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

• Alex Pereira
• Jiri Procházka
• Magomed Ankalaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MIDDLEWEIGHT

• Israel Adesanya
• Dricus du Plessis
• Khamzat Chimaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WELTERWEIGHT

• Jack Della Maddalena
• Shavkat Rakhmonov

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHTWEIGHT

• Islam Makhachev
• Charles Olivera
• Armen Tsarykyan
• Max Holloway

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FEATHERWEIGHT

• Ilia Topuria
• Max Holloway
• Arnold Allen
• Calvin Kattar

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BANTAMWEIGHT

• Sean O'Malley
• Merab Dvalishvili
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FLYWEIGHT

• Alexandre Pantoja
• Brandon Moreno
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.



PS: This is not "fighter bashing" — it's my right, as the paying customer, to reassess what I am willing to pay for and what I am not.

Me personally, I never want to see any "points fighter" — I want to see a finisher.
Dude may not get the finish, but you can feel in your bones he's looking for it.

Fighters who consistently fail ...
Fighters who sull-up and "wait for a ref stoppages" ...
Fighters who make me feel like they are "sparring" ... rather than seriously "trying to win" ...

I will no longer buy a PPV Event if they are headlining.

Only will pay to see real prospects, who really are capable of keeping/winning a Championship, and who really try until the last.

Sean KO’d Izzy, and Dorky Suplexes edged out a close split decision against him. Lol at paying for khamzat who fights once a month and cancels the following 10 fights he has he’s an incompetent man-child.

Strickland > Arnold and Kattar combined who somehow made it on this shitty list.

 

[DomiDomi]

Dana needs to change the fighters contracts to include bonus for getting a finish, rather than just a show/win, make it a show/win/finish or something.

I'm not suggesting getting rid of the current performance bonuses by the way. But the problem with just the current bonuses is they're discretionary and there's no guarantee you'll even get it over the other fighters who also got a finish, they're all competing for the same limited prize.

Having finishes incentivised in each contract will hopefully spark a cultural change in the approach of the fighters.

There is too much point sparring with no real intention to hurt the opponent.

If only everyone would fight like Aspinall.

 

[Lycandroid]

yet two of the guys you said you actually want to watch were on that card so how was it a waste of money according to your own logic ?

 

[MWB1982]

The last PPV I bought was Rampage vs Silva. I used to give my dad cash so he would buy the PPVs for me.

Now I'm content in watching the fights minutes after they end on youtube or catching the highlights the next morning. Plus I don't have to sit thru all the filler fights and can focus on the ones I'm actually interested in

Newer fans don't realize that UFC used to be the Super Bowl of MMA. Every card was stacked. Plus there was Pride which was even bigger than UFC.

 

[ArtardFiesta]

dude only made this thread to show off about how much money he spends on ufc

 

[World eater]

Sean KO’d Izzy,

When???

 

[SKYNET]

 

[Tweak896]

Market is supply and demand. It's just unfortunate that ESPN is supplying the UFC instead of the PPV buyers, now they will only change it up when ESPN notices the diluted UFC card quality. I wish consumers could change the course, but consumers are just the gravy now.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Sean KO’d Izzy, and Dorky Suplexes edged out a close split decision against him. Lol at paying for khamzat who fights once a month and cancels the following 10 fights he has he’s an incompetent man-child.

Strickland > Arnold and Kattar combined who somehow made it on this shitty list.

Sean is boring and failed to get the finish.

Kattar is a fighter, willing to throw down.

Sean is a jabber/front-ticker, Philly-shell fighter ... who "moves forward" while trying to avoid actually fighting

 

[maximus__]

Honestly, last night's sickening card rubbed me the wrong way. (Many other fights have also, we've all been rubbed the wrong way, but last night was the end of an era for me.)

I've typically bought almost every UFC Fight but no more.

1. I am tired of "paid sparring," lack of cajones/effort, as well as blatant quits + early ref stoppages.
2. I am tired of media and entertainment, but no actual fighter shows up TO FIGHT and TO FINISH.

In looking at the current UFC roster, there is almost no one who inspires me to spend $80+ anymore.
For that reason, I will no longer be spending my PPV money on any fight ... unless they include the following proven fighters,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

HEAVYWEIGHT

• Jon Jones
• Stipe Miocic
• Tom Aspinall

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

• Alex Pereira
• Jiri Procházka
• Magomed Ankalaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MIDDLEWEIGHT

• Israel Adesanya
• Dricus du Plessis
• Khamzat Chimaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WELTERWEIGHT

• Jack Della Maddalena
• Shavkat Rakhmonov

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHTWEIGHT

• Islam Makhachev
• Charles Olivera
• Armen Tsarykyan
• Max Holloway

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FEATHERWEIGHT

• Ilia Topuria
• Max Holloway
• Arnold Allen
• Calvin Kattar

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BANTAMWEIGHT

• Sean O'Malley
• Merab Dvalishvili
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FLYWEIGHT

• Alexandre Pantoja
• Brandon Moreno
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.



PS: This is not "fighter bashing" — it's my right, as the paying customer, to reassess what I am willing to pay for and what I am not.

Me personally, I never want to see any "points fighter" — I want to see a finisher.
Dude may not get the finish, but you can feel in your bones he's looking for it.

Fighters who consistently fail ...
Fighters who sull-up and "wait for a ref stoppages" ...
Fighters who make me feel like they are "sparring" ... rather than seriously "trying to win" ...

I will no longer buy a PPV Event if they are headlining.

Only will pay to see real prospects, who really are capable of keeping/winning a Championship, and who really try until the last.

I pay for good cards and stream shit ones. I paid for 300 and Volk vs Islam 1 for example.
If there are 3-5 fights I want to see without worrying about stream issues I will buy it. If it's just a headliner I will deal with my stream dropping out potentially.
I have fightpass and religiously watch the Fightnight cards because they are usually better than PPVs these days. This year not so much, but I would happily pay 30 dollars for a better quality product with the current leve;l of PPVs even though I know how to get them easy via streaming. I aint paying 60+ for the level of cards these days.

 

[BigSexy444]

You forgot Conor McGregor.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

I used to buy every PPV but honestly, I can save $90 CAD by simply going on a website and casting it to my TV.

I’d pay 30 but anything above that just feels like a ripoff tbh. I think the ufc would make more money if the lowered the price honestly and allowed it back in bars. Their fees to play it in a bar killed off UFC at bars almost everywhere which is bad for the sport.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

I pay for good cards and stream shit ones. I paid for 300 and Volk vs Islam 1 for example.
If there are 3-5 fights I want to see without worrying about stream issues I will buy it. If it's just a headliner I will deal with my stream dropping out potentially.
I have fightpass and religiously watch the Fightnight cards because they are usually better than PPVs these days. This year not so much, but I would happily pay 30 dollars for a better quality product with the current leve;l of PPVs even though I know how to get them easy via streaming. I aint paying 60+ for the level of cards these days.

Word.

We are the buyers. We are the consumers.

We have the right to highlight the "products" we will continue to pay for ... and highlight the bullshit we no longer will.

As the buyers, we pay EVERYONE ... and they need to LISTEN to our complaints, not just our praise.

 

[arcadeperfect]

I mean, just to include 1/25 dope fighters, idk how much you are really boycotting here.

You gonna boycott the next Canadian Pennington/Pena card?

Not talking shit, just like you know what I mean lol? Prolly a lotta dudes with you anyway.

C'mon now, are you really going to pay to watch a Canadian Pennington card? I'd rather do something else with my time and money than waste it on that.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Honestly, last night's sickening card rubbed me the wrong way. (Many other fights have also, we've all been rubbed the wrong way, but last night was the end of an era for me.)

I've typically bought almost every UFC Fight but no more.

1. I am tired of "paid sparring," lack of cajones/effort, as well as blatant quits + early ref stoppages.
2. I am tired of media and entertainment, but no actual fighter shows up TO FIGHT and TO FINISH.

In looking at the current UFC roster, there is almost no one who inspires me to spend $80+ anymore.
For that reason, I will no longer be spending my PPV money on any fight ... unless they include the following proven fighters,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

HEAVYWEIGHT

• Jon Jones
• Stipe Miocic
• Tom Aspinall

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

• Alex Pereira
• Jiri Procházka
• Magomed Ankalaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MIDDLEWEIGHT

• Israel Adesanya
• Dricus du Plessis
• Khamzat Chimaev

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WELTERWEIGHT

• Jack Della Maddalena
• Shavkat Rakhmonov

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LIGHTWEIGHT

• Islam Makhachev
• Charles Olivera
• Armen Tsarykyan
• Max Holloway

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FEATHERWEIGHT

• Ilia Topuria
• Max Holloway
• Arnold Allen
• Calvin Kattar

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BANTAMWEIGHT

• Sean O'Malley
• Merab Dvalishvili
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FLYWEIGHT

• Alexandre Pantoja
• Brandon Moreno
• Corey Sandhagan

The rest are cans to me, beaten too many times, or with no exciting style or perceived real potential.

Will not pay to watch anymore. My ESPN-Plus subscription (a form of payment, already) should be sufficient.

For me to "pay" extra, a fighter needs to BE extra.



PS: This is not "fighter bashing" — it's my right, as the paying customer, to reassess what I am willing to pay for and what I am not.

Me personally, I never want to see any "points fighter" — I want to see a finisher.
Dude may not get the finish, but you can feel in your bones he's looking for it.

Fighters who consistently fail ...
Fighters who sull-up and "wait for a ref stoppages" ...
Fighters who make me feel like they are "sparring" ... rather than seriously "trying to win" ...

I will no longer buy a PPV Event if they are headlining.

Only will pay to see real prospects, who really are capable of keeping/winning a Championship, and who really try until the last.

I can appreciate the sentiment, for sure. And if you watch Dana's reaction when asked about the 100K bonuses, it seems he had the same frustrations: 'zero urgency to finish the fights' or something like that. Perhaps it was exacerbated last night because they were fighting essentially when they would normally be sleeping, but as you say it is obviously more of a problem than that. Too many wolf tickets.

At times I felt the same about no longer wanting to purchase PPVs, but for a different reason. The commentating was just too much to bear. For long periods they would just ignore the fights, ramble on about their own lives, while ignoring the action in the fights. Then there was / is the shown bias during many fights. Then there is the instruction given by commentators to fighters during the bouts. I'd much prefer none to what was broadcast last night. Is it really too much to ask to have clear, honest commentary on the fights by guys who are excited to watch them?

Anyways, I will probably just continue watching, but yeah - things ain't how they should be.