Boxing is messed up

[Sharkey]

from esb.com

That was some awful jibberish by yet another of the many brainwashed twits out there.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Thats because one sanctioning body didn't recogniize super middleweight as a weight class at that time. That fight was for a lhw title of one org and a smw title of another.

168 was within the light heavyweight limit of one of the alphabet orgs and it was anentire new weight class for another.

Sorry so hard to read, my computer seems to have epilepsy tonight.

I believe it was two titles from the same org in different weight classes. Thus making it a bit of a sham IMO.

 

[Seano]

I believe it was two titles from the same org in different weight classes. Thus making it a bit of a sham IMO.

I may be mistaken but I believe it was 2 different alphabet orgs. One had not yet started to recognize the super and junior classes.

 

[Sharkey]

Thats because one sanctioning body didn't recogniize super middleweight as a weight class at that time. That fight was for a lhw title of one org and a smw title of another.

It was sanctioned by the WBC in both divisions, Seano, and it of course went against their own long standing rules stipulating that no fighter can hold two of their props in two divisions at the same time. But when it came to a immensely popular fighter in search of "history", what the hell does it matter what their own "rules" state?

 

[Seano]

It was sanctioned by the WBC in both divisions, Seano, and it of course went against their own long standing rules stipulating that no fighter can hold two of their props in two divisions at the same time. But when it came to a immensely popular fighter in search of "history", what the hell does it matter what their own "rules" state?

If you guys say so. I honestly don't really remember. I was pretty sure it was WBC and another org.

 

[Conquerer01]

i don't know the rules of how it works. whether it's any weight that either fighter comes in at between 141-147 is what makes it a ww fight, or if there's a stipulated weight that must be abided making it a cachweight fight. he was able to put his belt up though so...

 

[crocop12]

147 pounds is the limit and anything between 141-147 would make it a ww fight, but had cotto weighed in at 147 and the fight was canceled, it would've been a 145 pound fight instead of a ww fight. i couldn't find what was in their contract, but i think roach was firm in keeping it at 145 pounds instead of a ww fight. there wouldn't have even been a fine, likely a canceling of the fight.

cancelation of the fight, keep dreaming! this was considered the biggest fight of the year there wasn't gonna be a cancelation of the fight even if cotto came in at 147. just because freddie roach said the fight was gonna be canceled doesn't mean it will he's not authorized to do that it's up to the fighter. cotto came in at 146 on his previous fights, coming in at 147 wasn't gonna turn him into a super saiyan and change the outcome! the beating probably would have been worst if he had he might've been slower. there's a reason welterweight is considered to be between 141-147 lbs. manny could have came in at 141 and still whupped ass!

manny's contract didn't involved the belt that idea came from cotto's camp

 

[Conquerer01]

roach said it, not me.

 

[Favela]

i don't know the rules of how it works. whether it's any weight that either fighter comes in at between 141-147 is what makes it a ww fight, or if there's a stipulated weight that must be abided making it a cachweight fight. he was able to put his belt up though so...

The fight weight was agreed at 145. Cotto would have had to pay $1M for every pound over until 147. Freddie did say that if Cotto went 1 gram over the 147 limit, he would have canceled the fight. Obviously he didn't want Cotto any heavier than he had to be. Don't know if he actually would have canceled the fight, but be happy it didn't get to that point.

IF he canceled the fight, Pacman would have walked away with $2M just for training.

 

[Paltik]

i won't take anything away from pac's win, but the belts and sanctioning bodies are basically pointless. they probably allowed it because of the money they'd see. i think they tax beltholders. manny meeting at specific weights and bypassing the belts probably took a toll on them.

Because it has been done before.

 

[Seano]

It was sanctioned by the WBC in both divisions, Seano, and it of course went against their own long standing rules stipulating that no fighter can hold two of their props in two divisions at the same time. But when it came to a immensely popular fighter in search of "history", what the hell does it matter what their own "rules" state?

You guys were right, not sure what I was thinking.

I think I may have confused which titles were on the line for Hearns/Ray 2 and LaLonde/Ray.

 

[Wrestler133**]

Oh yeah! Thanks for clearing that up Seano.

I still think that fighting at 145 could have benefited Pacquiao. Anyway, why would Cotto want to fight at that weight when he has been a full blown welterweight for that long.

cutting 1 extra pound isnt going to kill you, he weighed in at 146 for the Clottey fight

now if it was at 143 or some shit that would of been different but 145 isnt that extreme

 

[TheMMAPhilosphr]

What's the belt matter? It's just a belt anyways.

Manny doesn't need a belt to be the best.

 

[anubismcdeath]

7th weight class champion? I'd say that means something. No fighter who ever started out as light as pac ever challenged for the ww title before.

 

[nip102]

The ring belt is not a sanctioned strap, and has no governing body. Anything less than world dominance by a sanctioned organization isn't categorically considered dominant enough for the books that count.

This bullshit the fact it aint a sanctioned strap makes it better no fees no bullshit.Sulamain is a gobshite