Boxing Discussion VIII

stretcharmstrong said:
Please guys ffs, Haye was up 4-1 in rounds then the injury occurred and it still took Bellew 5 rounds to get a one legged man out of there!

Honestly you are all relying on the injury being the biggest factor again!

IF the injury or another injury limits Haye again then yes, Bellew will win, but if there’s no injury then he should dispose of Bellew pretty easily.
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Bellew wasn't getting blown out of the water in those rounds he lost. Not from what I remember. I actually remember being more confident he would win after those rounds and before the injury because he took Haye's punches so well.

Aside from Broner I think Haye is the most overrated fighter of the past 15 years. He has one win over a good opponent, and even then Mormeck was very old and even knocked Haye down.

Regardless the main reason I think bellew wins is because I think after the middle rounds Haye will just be gassed, and Bellew will start to land big punches. Eventually Haye will go down. Mark my word. I even think Bellee +2000 9-12 KO prop is a solid one.
 
I'm deep on Bellew itd, bellew to knock down haye.

I'd be worried if I bet Haye considering that his weight is the same as last time.
 
stretcharmstrong said:
Please guys ffs, Haye was up 4-1 in rounds then the injury occurred and it still took Bellew 5 rounds to get a one legged man out of there!

Honestly you are all relying on the injury being the biggest factor again!

IF the injury or another injury limits Haye again then yes, Bellew will win, but if there’s no injury then he should dispose of Bellew pretty easily.
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it was bellews plan to give away the first five rounds. tony claims to have said something to that effect to david after the fifth round in the center of the ring, that the real fight was now going to start and david needed to be ready.

and you are correct, im betting on haye being injured or being a shell of his former self. i think most of us here wagering bellew would never do so against pre-shoulder surgery hayemaker but that guy doesnt exist anymore. david could land a counter and get tony out of there but imo if bellews not hurt by the fifth round the bellend is probably going to win again. there is no way haye trained 100 percent for this fight knowing that his brittle body may go at anytime and then lose his final payday postponing this fight a second time in addition to cancelling fury, no big name would ever sign to fight him in fear of cancellation

i understand not betting bellew but cant understand anyone laying a whopping -225 on an injured past-it david haye. imo, its a pick em fight at the open(haye getting injured or coming in injured ala ray leonard/hector camacho), a great deal if bellew is at +400 after round four
 
Good odds:

Butler-Rodriguez goes to dist @ 2.00 betfair
Under 5.5 Joyce-Lenroy @ 2.10 at will ( i think it moved)
Butler @ 5.00 at betfair ex
Butler dec @ 6.50
Ward dec @ 2.25 or so
Bellew ko @ 5.60 at betfair ex
Lenroy r1-4 @ 61 at betfair -- Still not sold on Joyce and Lenroy only has 3-4 rounds before he gasses. Way bigger on the under, but will have some on this as well
 
I went square and took Haye by stoppage. His age and injuries really bother me but he is the naturally bigger and more talented man.

Also on Butler, the under for the Joyce fight, and Ryder. Do't like being on this many favorites/props but taking a shot today.

GL boys.
 
what a bum fight :D Joyce will get smashed once he faces a decent fighter
 
3u Joyce - Thomas U5,5 at 1.9

3u Ryder at 1.86

1,33u Butler at 5.0

1,33u Bellew KO/TKO at 5,5
0,66u Bellew 7-12 at around 8,5
0,2u Bellew to win and both KD at 26
 
took some Rodriguez DEC +450

hopefully Butler guts it out even though he is completely outclassed
 
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Tony Bellew (+210) vs David Haye ~$98.25 for ~$206.33
Tony Bellew (+205) vs David Haye ~$117.90 for ~$241.70
Tony Bellew wins by KO/TKO/DQ (+430) ~$29.48 for ~$126.75
Tony Bellew wins in rounds 7-12 (+700) ~$29.48 for ~$206.33
Tony Bellew wins by Disqualification (+10,000) ~$19.65 for ~$1,965.00
Tony Bellew knocks down David Haye (+274) ~$29.48 for ~$80.78
Tony Bellew/David Haye either to be knocked down in round 1 (+1800) ~$9.82 for ~$176.85
Tony Bellew/David Haye Under 7½ (+125) $100.00 for $125.00

Gennady Golovkin/Vanes Martirosyan fight ends in round 1-6 (+105) $100.00 for $105.00
 
got 0,5u fight goes to DEC at 3,8 so if it goes to a decision I get my money back from the Butler bet and a little extra
 
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