Both Charlie Olives and Islam are Overrated Mega Thread

chinarice said:
Literally have video evidence of them not weighing Khabib correctly and the only video evidence of him being weighed showed he was probably ABOVE 155 but ok.

Don't let video footage get in the way of your narrative.
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Can you please link this video?
Just curious too see it.
 
melans said:
Can you please link this video?
Just curious too see it.
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Lets just not even acknowledge the uncertain look in Khabib's face before he steps on the scale. Lets not even acknowledge the elation when he's told he hit 155 (because he probably didn't think he was). You have to let the weight come to a stop in the middle for it to be officially the exact weight you've preset on the scale. If it's going above, you're above the preset weight, if it goes below the middle, you're below the preset weight.

There is no doctor in the history of life that will tell you this is how to correctly weigh someone.

 
chinarice said:
Literally have video evidence of them not weighing Khabib correctly and the only video evidence of him being weighed showed he was probably ABOVE 155 but ok.

Don't let video footage get in the way of your narrative.
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It’s hilarious that people are still Butthurt about this. Khabib weighed in early (I think the first fighter to weigh in) and had several hrs more time to cut, do you really believe he was way over and just decided to chance it? Don’t be stupid.
 
moosaev said:
It’s hilarious that people are still Butthurt about this. Khabib weighed in early and has several hrs more to cut, do you really believe he was way over and just decided to chance it? Don’t be stupid.
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This just shows your extreme bias. Nothing more, nothing less @moosaev
Several more hours to cut and probably didn't make weight but since he "probably could" make weight if given the extra time, we'll not make him dehydrate himself and deplete himself more.

That's absolutely absurd, garbage logic.

Tell us more about how overrated Charles Oliveira is
 
chinarice said:
This just shows your extreme bias. Nothing more, nothing less @moosaev
Several more hours to cut and probably didn't make weight but since he "probably could" make weight if given the extra time, we'll not make him dehydrate himself and deplete himself more.

That's absolutely absurd, garbage logic.

Tell us more about how overrated Charles Oliveira is
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Logically speaking, why would Khabib weigh in early if he was off weight? Oliveira was the last person to weigh in on Friday because he was struggling, Khabib would’ve done the same had he been struggling. Please use some deductive reasoning here.
 
moosaev said:
Logically speaking, why would Khabib weigh in early if he was off weight? Oliveira was the last person to weigh in on Friday because he was struggling. Please use some deductive reasoning here.
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Dude, mental gymnastics aren't changing the FACT there's zero proof he was 155 lbs and the only footage we have, looks like he's above weight. You can even tell the difference in trajectory of the scale from Justin to khabib. Not even the same. There is my deductive reasoning
 
moosaev said:
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Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier of Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Olives deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Tony Ferguson: I think everyone agrees he's washed and Olives picked the bones off the carcass that Gaethje already ate

Kevin Lee: Most overrated LW of all time probably, lost 3 of his last 4.

Nick Lentz: 3 fight losing skid, already lost to Islam Makachev before Olives got the sloppy seconds

Jared Gordon: lol, no comment

David Teymur: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.
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LOL
 
moosaev said:
I just don't get why people consider him in the class of Poirier, Gaethje or Khabib:

Khabib: demolished Conor, Poirier, and Gaethje, and Barboza

Gaethje: demolished Tony, Cowboy, Barboza, had incredibly competitive fights with Poirier and Alvarez

Poirier: beat Conor, Holloway, Gaethje, Alvarez, Hooker

Oliveira: beat a washed Tony, thats literally IT
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OOF.
 
chinarice said:
Dude, mental gymnastics aren't changing the FACT there's zero proof he was 155 lbs and the only footage we have, looks like he's above weight. You can even tell the difference in trajectory of the scale from Justin to khabib. Not even the same. There is my deductive reasoning
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You’re the one making the claim that he was off weight bud, the burden of proof is on YOU. The footage you saw was proof of a fast weigh in, it wasn’t proof that Khabib was over weight. The scale never settled. But I understand you’re a hater and just wanna take the most negative interpretation possible. Show me where Khabib hurt you buddy?
 
moosaev said:
Yes, dude got knocked down twice. Gets knocked down every rd
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If he’s overrated, then the entire division absolutely sucks. And if the division absolutely sucks, then Khabib ain’t shit either, baby girl.
 
wisdom blows said:
If he’s overrated, then the entire division absolutely sucks. And if the division absolutely sucks, then Khabib ain’t shit either, baby girl.
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Top of the division outside of Islam sucks. There are young killers who aren’t being given a chance. Saryukan would push Oliveira’s shit in. Islam would murder him. Fiziev would knock him out. Gaethje, Poirier, Chandler we’re all promotion favorites they’re overrated
 
moosaev said:
Top of the division outside of Islam sucks. There are young killers who aren’t being given a chance. Saryukan would push Oliveira’s shit in. Islam would murder him. Fiziev would knock him out. Gaethje, Poirier, Chandler we’re all promotion favorites they’re overrated
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Then so is Khabib.

This thread will be bumped once Blonde Charles beats Islam.
 
moosaev said:
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Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier of Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Olives deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Tony Ferguson: I think everyone agrees he's washed and Olives picked the bones off the carcass that Gaethje already ate

Kevin Lee: Most overrated LW of all time probably, lost 3 of his last 4.

Nick Lentz: 3 fight losing skid, already lost to Islam Makachev before Olives got the sloppy seconds

Jared Gordon: lol, no comment

David Teymur: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.
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Why you leave out Poirier and Gaethje........

Because i can take Khabib's resume, stop at Raging Al and tear apart Khabib's weak ass, hand picked fights.

People forget Khabib came into the UFC a millionaire. He just wanted the UFC title. So they were very careful who they fought on the way to the title. People want to jump on Conor for holding up the LW division for 2 years but the UFC tried to make an interim LW title between Aldo and Khabib and Khabib didn't want it.
 
moosaev said:
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Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier of Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Olives deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Tony Ferguson: I think everyone agrees he's washed and Olives picked the bones off the carcass that Gaethje already ate

Kevin Lee: Most overrated LW of all time probably, lost 3 of his last 4.

Nick Lentz: 3 fight losing skid, already lost to Islam Makachev before Olives got the sloppy seconds

Jared Gordon: lol, no comment

David Teymur: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.
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This has aged so well
 
wisdom blows said:
Then so is Khabib.

This thread will be bumped once Blonde Charles beats Islam.
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Khabib’s greatness is not in just who he beat, but how he beat them. Undefeated, never cut, never knocked down, won almost every single round. Oliveira has lost a bunch of times, quit a bunch of times, even when he wins always gets knocked down and almost finished. Plus, can’t even make weight for a title fight. You can’t really compare the two. That said, I would’ve liked to have seen Khabib fight a bit more, I think he short changed his legacy a bit. But the eye test still tells me he is league above anyone else we’ve ever seen at LW.
 
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