Crime Black Portland man acquitted of stabbing white man because jury learned that after the stabbing, the victim used the n word.

[ricc505]

My point is that the jury believed the defendant's version of the events. Not some socio-political online forum framing of what happened. The defendant claimed he asked for a trade and was pushed while being called the N-word. They believed that, likely due to seeing the guy's behavior afterward, and likely that the knife wasnt hidden, the plaintiff initiated the physical contact, and that there was a scuffle before the plaintiff was actually stabbed. They believed the defendant he was telling the truth.

If a racist child grapist got stabbed for being a racist and putting his hands on a guy, f*ck him. Sorry he was white, I guess.

Dude. Sometimes it's just better not to post

 

[nixkid]

For a Cop you sure are missing key details to frame your argument. Wait what am I saying, that's pretty on par.

According to YOUR OWN ARTICLE the white dude pushed the black dude first. Then they scuffled, THEN he got stabbed.

Here is the relevant bit.

Transit cameras showed Edwards, a fixed-blade knife clasped at his side, approaching Howard from behind as he sat on a bench. The video has no sound, but Howard springs up and pushes Edwards as soon as he sees him. The duo scuffle against a wall for a brief moment, ending with Edwards stabbing Howard in the shoulder.

I'd really like to know the argument for why that's not textbook self defense.

I've seen Sherdoggers try to justify shootings because the shooter was afraid. No actual physical confrontation required.

 

[Sinister]

Here is the relevant bit.



I'd really like to know the argument for why that's not textbook self defense.

I've seen Sherdoggers try to justify shootings because the shooter was afraid. No actual physical confrontation required.

Was the shooter black tho?

 

[Sinister]

Dude. Sometimes it's just better not to post

You're correct, you shouldnt have posted.

 

[ricc505]

You're correct, you shouldnt have posted.

I am actually taking my own advice and showing restraint. I can't respond to your post without making assumptions and basically insulting you. I don't typically stoop to name calling or throwing insinuations around so easily.

 

[Crazy Source]

Another @nhbbear thread gets blown the fuck up.

I don't get it, bro. I don't look for shit that people I don't agree or don't like do.

Look at the people agreeing with you in this thread. Are those the people you want to be standing with?

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Give it time. Retard is back in normal conversations

 

[TrueBias]

From my reading of the article you posted it seems that the jury was more inclined to believe the stabber's story that the guy was an aggressive racist before being stabbed being as he was a loud racist after being stabbed.

Oh also according to your article the stabee is a convicted child grapist. And I do recall a ton of tough words around this forum about what should happen to those guys. Amirite? We keeping that same energy, yeah?

It means you dont feel sorry for them, in other words, feelings dont matter. Law does.

 

[nixkid]

Was the shooter black tho?

I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[nhbbear]

That's for the law-talkin' guy to figure out.


If true, this is would be the missing context I was referring to in my earlier post, Bear. So, is that a factual account?

Dude, this is jury activism pure and simple.

There is “no missing context.” I posted an article, stated what was said in that article and others, and posted a video commentary that I thought would contain the video, but it only contains stills of the incident. I also posted what was stated by the prosecutor and that Edward’s did not dispute that he stabbed him-but claimed being called the n word made him fear for his life.

I did not have time to watch the video and was posting the story in between sets at the gym.

I never left out anything about the push. It is 100% reasonable that if a man approaches you while holding a knife, that you would reasonably fear that you will be stabbed and push the subject away if you can. If you look at the pictures, edwards appears to be approaching in an aggressive manner with a fucking knife in his hand. And even if he did shove the man and call him the bad name, attempted murder is not commensurate with the faced threat-especially when the “threat” turns and runs away. And, Edwards was convicted of another stabbing in 2021.

Here’s from another article:

A black man was acquitted of stabbing a white man in Oregon after he claimed the attack was self-defense because the victim called him a racial slur.

Gary Edwards, 43, was charged with second-degree assault for stabbing a man in Portland near a light rail stop on July 8, KPTV reported.

However, he was found not guilty of the crime on October 31 after the jury learned the victim was using racial slurs in the aftermath of the altercation

Edwards, who is homeless and has a previous assault conviction, admitted to knifing the victim, Gregory Howard Jr., but claimed it was in self-defense because the other man called him the n-word, according to Oregon Live.

Security cameras, with no audio, captured Edwards, with a fixed-blade knife in hand, approaching Howard as he sat on a bench.

Howard immediately jumped up and pushed Edwards, then the two scuffled until Edwards stabbed Howard in the shoulder.

Small claimed that Edwards approached Howard with the knife to see if he wanted to trade the knife for cigarettes.

'What other than racism could explain why Mr. Howard perceived hatred, animosity and aggression from a complete stranger,' Small said.



Moments later, body camera footage from security officers captured Howard shouting a racist slur at Edwards after he had been stabbed.

It is unclear if there is any evidence to suggest that Howard used the slur before he was stabbed.

Prosecutor Katherine Williams told the jury it did not matter what the victim said after he was stabbed.

'The defendant is not scared for his life. He didn't retreat, he sauntered up - and he sauntered away after he stabbed someone. The defendant created the situation,' Williams said.

Despite the prosecutors pleas, the jury found Edwards not guilty.

Edwards lawyer insisted the case never should have gone to trial.

'I laid my cards out on the table and told the state how the trial would go, but it didn't matter,' he told Oregon Live.

 

[nhbbear]

Another @nhbbear thread gets blown the fuck up.

I don't get it, bro. I don't look for shit that people I don't agree or don't like do.

Look at the people agreeing with you in this thread. Are those the people you want to be standing with?

Meaning what, exactly. Who’s blowing shit up? sinister? lol. Fedor>cain-fucking please-dude can’t even mount an argument.

And I can’t help who agrees with me or who argues with me in any thread-that doesn’t sway my opinion.

 

[Crazy Source]

Meaning what, exactly. Who’s blowing shit up? sinister? lol. Fedor>cain-fucking please-dude can’t even mount an argument.

And I can’t help who agrees with me or who argues with me in any thread-that doesn’t sway my opinion.

Your arguments lose sway when you post incendiary threads like this. It makes me think you don't really want other opinions. And stop with the wall of text. Nobody is going to read that. You like guns? You fish? We should get along, but for some reason we don't.

 

[nhbbear]

Well, you're getting closer to actually arguing what YOUR article actually said. They believed he felt threatened. Are you asking me my personal viewpoint? It's not relevant at all but if that was me and the dude shoved me and was hurting racial slurs at me, I might be inclined to use the knife if I'm being honest. It wasnt me so its difficult to gauge. And that's speaking as someone who has been in fights with people calling me racial slurs, I just didnt have a knife at the time.

I just find it interesting how these arguments get framed because people around here seem to regularly advocate people getting KILLED for stealing property, or being in the wrong yard sometimes, or burglary, but this dude who was actually in a physical scuffle, now we're saying he should have been more restrained, more disciplined? Weird.

I have been steady and consistent since the word go.
There is no audio in the video. All you know for sure is that Howard is sitting on a bench when he is approached by a man with a knife in his hand. He didn’t call him over, didn’t ask to speak to him-he was minding his own business when the stabbed-a serial stabber, approached with a knife. And you’re basing you’re argument tgat he called him the racial slur before the stabbing based on the defendant’s word-again, a life long violent criminal who approaches a stranger while holding a knife. I don’t care that a child rapist got stabbed-it’s a shame he didn’t die, but I, unlike you, am not simply taking the defendant’s side because of race nor am I condemning the jury decision because of race-I don’t fucking care about their race. And I don’t care what he called him after he was stabbed-he just fucking got stabbed and that might upset anybody, but the jury excused the serial stabber’s actions because a bad word was used.

The lengths you guys go to defend this kind of behavior is astounding. Attempted murder is fine if the suspect is black and the victim uses a bad word is more harmful to the black community than using the word. That is basically stating that he simply couldn’t control himself like he is less than human and thus, not responsible for his violent behavior.

And there is no evidence that he said the word prior to the stabbing-it’s what the defendant claims as he he approaches a man sitting on a bench with a knife in his hand. Who the fuck does that? Approaches someone with a weapon that you supposedly want to trade for cigarettes-not a normal thing to do, but if you were to try to trade, a normal person would ask and then pull the knife out to show him what you want to trade-not sneak up on him with a knife looking like you’re ready to pounce.

And his fucking lawyer claims that “only a racist would be afraid of a black man approaching with a knife and see a threat.” fucking lol.

 

[Ron Mexico]

What the hell is your point? If he's a racist, its legal to attack him with a knife while he's sitting on a bench?

No, definitely not legal
If the guy who got stabbed is a child rapist tho….fuck him
Shame were not talking about him in the past tense

 

[nhbbear]

Why should anybody read your wall of text when you act like it's impossible to read two paragraphs that sinister typed up lol.

What are you even talking about? I read all his comments to me and responded accordingly and thoroughly. Another lazy fucking mongoloid that can’t read a response because you can’t mount an argument.

 

[nhbbear]

Your arguments lose sway when you post incendiary threads like this. It makes me think you don't really want other opinions. And stop with the wall of text. Nobody is going to read that. You like guns? You fish? We should get along, but for some reason we don't.

It’s incredibly ironic that you mentioned guns when another poster challenged me on why I felt mark kelley is anti-gun and when I laid out my argument, all he could muster was “wall of text.” You guys are so fucking lazy that it’s too much trouble to read a few paragraphs. How in the world do you manage to get through life? It’s people like you guys is why twitter became a world force-people can’t focus for more than a few lines.

And an insane story about a complete miscarriage of justice in which a jury excused an attempted murder because the victim said the n word after he was stabbed is worthy of discussion because it shows how fucked up woke people are and how they will not hold people accountable if they’re a minority

 

[Sinister]

It means you dont feel sorry for them, in other words, feelings dont matter. Law does.

This is entirely a feelings thread.

 

[Crazy Source]

It’s incredibly ironic that you mentioned guns when another poster challenged me on why I felt mark kelley is anti-gun and when I laid out my argument, all he could muster was “wall of text.” You guys are so fucking lazy that it’s too much trouble to read a few paragraphs. How in the world do you manage to get through life? It’s people like you guys is why twitter became a world force-people can’t focus for more than a few lines.

And an insane story about a complete miscarriage of justice in which a jury excused an attempted murder because the victim said the n word after he was stabbed is worthy of discussion because it shows how fucked up woke people are and how they will not hold people accountable if they’re a minority

I'm doing quite well with my guns and a sweet breezy you unhinged cop.

You are a single-issue voter and that is so fucking retarded. Guns and trannies. Straight retarded, bruh.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Black Portland man acquitted of stabbing white child rapist.​

Imagine the celebration that would be happening ITT if it was the other way around.

 

[TrueBias]

This is entirely a feelings thread.

Then I better get the fuck outta here!