Crime Black Portland man acquitted of stabbing white man because jury learned that after the stabbing, the victim used the n word.

[Sinister]

Fucking lol. So let’s assume you’re correct-that the jury believed the defendant that the victim said the word before the stabbing-it’s still justifying attempted murder over calling him that, which is a million percent insane.

And as for the victim, “where’s the same energy?” STFU I already said he was only fit for a wood chipper feet first.

For a Cop you sure are missing key details to frame your argument. Wait what am I saying, that's pretty on par.

According to YOUR OWN ARTICLE the white dude pushed the black dude first. Then they scuffled, THEN he got stabbed.

Yeah I guess he is fit for a wild chipper, so long as it's not a black dude that turns that wood chipper on. Lol

 

[nhbbear]

My point is that the jury believed the defendant's version of the events. Not some socio-political online forum framing of what happened. The defendant claimed he asked for a trade and was pushed while being called the N-word. They believed that, likely due to seeing the guy's behavior afterward, and likely that the knife wasnt hidden, the plaintiff initiated the physical contact, and that there was a scuffle before the plaintiff was actually stabbed. They believed the defendant he was telling the truth.

If a racist child grapist got stabbed for being a racist and putting his hands on a guy, f*ck him. Sorry he was white, I guess.

Well, the jury also got to watch the surveillance videos of the stabbing-which I can’t find. But please, keep defending both the violent defendant and the jury for ok’ing attempted murder because he called him a bad word-either before or after-doesn’t matter. As I said in the first line, no real victims involved as the victim was a child rapist, but the jury’s ridiculous verdict is based on a white guy calling a black man the n word, which in their eyes, is grounds for attempted murder. Especially crazy that the jury is making this call after what we saw in Raleigh and Chicago with vicious attacks-but hey, it’s ok because they probably thought the word

 

[nhbbear]

I feel like there has to be missing context here and that it's not the only reason the jury voted to acquit, but if it is, I'd say the blame lies with letting so many dipshits get empaneled instead of the prosecution using its peremptory challenges.

What question in voir dire would weed out a jury that finds it ok to attempt to murder a man for saying the word? “So, juror number six, are you willing to acquit if he said a bad word?”

 

[nhbbear]

Old town/China town is the Wild West, I’m not surprised a couple transients got into it down there like this. I’ll withhold judgement until I see the video though, it may have played out the way it was written where the black dude wasn’t being threatening and the white dude jumped the gun and shoved him.

Completely acquitting the guy who’s on film chasing the other dude is wild though, sort of shoots (or stabs) the self defense narrative in the foot

Well, according to @Sinister the shooting in the foot would be just fine if he said the bad word

 

[Fedor>Cain]

For a Cop you sure are missing key details to frame your argument. Wait what am I saying, that's pretty on par.

How many times do we see leaked body cams of cops behaving exactly like goof Nhbbear?

It's on brand to ommit details and act stupid

 

[nhbbear]

For a Cop you sure are missing key details to frame your argument. Wait what am I saying, that's pretty on par.

According to YOUR OWN ARTICLE the white dude pushed the black dude first. Then they scuffled, THEN he got stabbed.

Yeah I guess he is fit for a wild chipper, so long as it's not a black dude that turns that wood chipper on. Lol

They’re both fit for the wood chipper and I don’t care who flips the switch. Again, the jury watched the video and as the prosecutor described, defendant already has the knife out and approaches the guy who is minding his own business, thinking about kids, on a bench when he has to stand up and not simply accept his fate of being a random stabbing victim. So again, let’s assume you’re again, right and the defendant simply wanted to trade a nice knife for some cigarettes-shoving a person=deadly force that warrants chasing and stabbing a man as long as he says the n word? It’s on par for your character, though. Really, it’s owed to the defendant to get a piece of revenge for using that word because it really hurts.

 

[Andy Capp]

What question in voir dire would weed out a jury that finds it ok to attempt to murder a man for saying the word? “So, juror number six, are you willing to acquit if he said a bad word?”

That's for the law-talkin' guy to figure out.

For a Cop you sure are missing key details to frame your argument. Wait what am I saying, that's pretty on par.

According to YOUR OWN ARTICLE the white dude pushed the black dude first. Then they scuffled, THEN he got stabbed.

Yeah I guess he is fit for a wild chipper, so long as it's not a black dude that turns that wood chipper on. Lol

If true, this is would be the missing context I was referring to in my earlier post, Bear. So, is that a factual account?

 

[The_Renaissance]

The basic law policy is that black people need to be treated softly because they don't know any better. It's soft racism. They know no better and by letting them off we look less racist and more virtuous.

Everyone wins. Until that same guy does that to the middle class judges family member. Then they'll cry for change

 

[Sinister]

That's for the law-talkin' guy to figure out.


If true, this is would be the missing context I was referring to in my earlier post, Bear. So, is that a factual account?

That's in the article in the OP. It says the video showed the black dude walk up with the knife visible, the white dude shoved him, scuffle, shoulder stab, then there's all the video of the racial slurs.

Jury believed the defendant's argument.

But its being framed as preposterous, as a demonstration of the idea that the criminal justice system is soft on black people or something.

 

[Mujeriego]

White people shouldnt say that word

Lesson learned

It's the white mans word. They invented it.

 

[Sinister]

The basic law policy is that black people need to be treated softly because they don't know any better. It's soft racism. They know no better and by letting them off we look less racist and more virtuous.

Everyone wins. Until that same guy does that to the middle class judges family member. Then they'll cry for change

@Andy Capp see like this horsesh*t here. This is the prevailing argument by "black people are the problem" racists, because they're aware that its nonsense. There is a ton of data that shows that black criminals have both higher conviction rates and longer sentences for identical crimes to white people. So this framing is an attempt to sidestep that data every time a black person actually is acquitted.

 

[Sinister]

It's the white mans word. They invented it.

It was rightfully conquered from them. They should just get over it.

 

[nhbbear]

How many times do we see leaked body cams of cops behaving exactly like goof Nhbbear?

It's on brand to ommit details and act stupid

Jesus, you’re retarded. First, I have never had a use of force complaint-ever. I have never had a sustained conplaint-ever. I can list the written complaints I have had in my career on one hand and can list how ridiculous they were. After a very serious flood that left six inches of mud on the sidewalks, I took a homeless intoxicated man’s bottle of vodka and dumped it on the sidewalk and a woman filed a complaint because “what if a child licked that up and died from alcohol poisoning!”

Another one, a woman died of an overdose while her husband was in jail for domestic battery-he got locked up for the battery and while he was locked up for two days, she took drugs, overdosed, and died. The wife’s sister demanded entry into their house-and would have had to use force to do so and she asked us to kick in the door. She was afraid that he would sell anything of value that belonged to her sister to buy drugs when he got out. I told her that it was not legal to do so and even if he sold everything in the house, he is allowed because they were married, she was deceased, not yet convicted of domestic battery, and he now owned everything in the house. She then said that she would kick in the door after we left and I told her that she would get arrested for burglary and she filed a complaint against me.

The kicker, I investigated a case where a black 25 year old with the brain functioning of a ten year old was walking down the street when an 18 yr old white female was selling items from a table. He stopped to look at what she was selling and she told him to “get away from me n word.” She then spit in his face and he decked her. The adult woman’s mom then demanded he get arrested on the spot. I explained to her that you can’t arrest a person for a misdemeanor that did not occur in your presence, especially juveniles. She then demanded that he be charged with a hate crime because her daughter was wearing a confederate flag t shirt. I explained that political affiliation is not a protected class under hate crime laws. She filed a complaint on me then and again after the trial when I testified that I didn’t believe that he started the fight and that he was not culpable because he was functioning at so low a level.

And finally, what did I leave out? What relevant aspect is not covered about stabbing a person over the n word?

 

[RemyR]

This strikes me as one of those incidents where it's just two pieces of shit acting like pieces of shit. Definitely not anything to get emotionally involved in.

 

[Pittie Petey]

It's the white mans word. They invented it.

Lizard People got buried in this thread

 

[Sinister]

They’re both fit for the wood chipper and I don’t care who flips the switch. Again, the jury watched the video and as the prosecutor described, defendant already has the knife out and approaches the guy who is minding his own business, thinking about kids, on a bench when he has to stand up and not simply accept his fate of being a random stabbing victim. So again, let’s assume you’re again, right and the defendant simply wanted to trade a nice knife for some cigarettes-shoving a person=deadly force that warrants chasing and stabbing a man as long as he says the n word? It’s on par for your character, though. Really, it’s owed to the defendant to get a piece of revenge for using that word because it really hurts.

Well, you're getting closer to actually arguing what YOUR article actually said. They believed he felt threatened. Are you asking me my personal viewpoint? It's not relevant at all but if that was me and the dude shoved me and was hurting racial slurs at me, I might be inclined to use the knife if I'm being honest. It wasnt me so its difficult to gauge. And that's speaking as someone who has been in fights with people calling me racial slurs, I just didnt have a knife at the time.

I just find it interesting how these arguments get framed because people around here seem to regularly advocate people getting KILLED for stealing property, or being in the wrong yard sometimes, or burglary, but this dude who was actually in a physical scuffle, now we're saying he should have been more restrained, more disciplined? Weird.

 

[Rob Battisti]

It wasnt his first stabbing. These guys are homeless so I expect some kinda list of offenses. I'm honestly surprised the dude just got stabbed in the shoulder and not much beyond that.

Yeah the stabee is not anyone worth advocating for, and the prosecution didnt make a convincing case that this was just some random black criminal looking for someone to stab.

Though a repeat stabber certainly feels like they’re bound to repeat again

 

[Azure]

Call somebody the N-word.. Words are violence.. So an appropriate reaction is to stab them...

Checks out

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Jesus, you’re retarded. First, I have never had a use of force complaint-ever. I have never had a sustained conplaint-ever. I can list the written complaints I have had in my career on one hand and can list how ridiculous they were. After a very serious flood that left six inches of mud on the sidewalks, I took a homeless intoxicated man’s bottle of vodka and dumped it on the sidewalk and a woman filed a complaint because “what if a child licked that up and died from alcohol poisoning!”

Another one, a woman died of an overdose while her husband was in jail for domestic battery-he got locked up for the battery and while he was locked up for two days, she took drugs, overdosed, and died. The wife’s sister demanded entry into their house-and would have had to use force to do so and she asked us to kick in the door. She was afraid that he would sell anything of value that belonged to her sister to buy drugs when he got out. I told her that it was not legal to do so and even if he sold everything in the house, he is allowed because they were married, she was deceased, not yet convicted of domestic battery, and he now owned everything in the house. She then said that she would kick in the door after we left and I told her that she would get arrested for burglary and she filed a complaint against me.

The kicker, I investigated a case where a black 25 year old with the brain functioning of a ten year old was walking down the street when an 18 yr old white female was selling items from a table. He stopped to look at what she was selling and she told him to “get away from me n word.” She then spit in his face and he decked her. The adult woman’s mom then demanded he get arrested on the spot. I explained to her that you can’t arrest a person for a misdemeanor that did not occur in your presence, especially juveniles. She then demanded that he be charged with a hate crime because her daughter was wearing a confederate flag t shirt. I explained that political affiliation is not a protected class under hate crime laws. She filed a complaint on me then and again after the trial when I testified that I didn’t believe that he started the fight and that he was not culpable because he was functioning at so low a level.

And finally, what did I leave out? What relevant aspect is not covered about stabbing a person over the n word?

Why should anybody read your wall of text when you act like it's impossible to read two paragraphs that sinister typed up lol.

 

[William Huggins]

As long as all the bits of shit are stabbing each other I don't care what ratio of colours that disappear quicker.......