Crime Black Portland man acquitted of stabbing white man because jury learned that after the stabbing, the victim used the n word.

[nhbbear]

Sorry, I made this thread yesterday, but didn’t post it because I wasn’t quite done and my sherdog page reset and I lost it.

Anyway, I will start by saying there are no “true victims” here. As a cop, we used to say that when both parties are complete shitbags. The stabbing victim is a convicted child rapist and the stabber has a violent record. Both are homeless and career criminals.

So, basically a Portland man, Gregory Howard, (the “victim”) is sitting on a bench when the suspect, Gary Edward’s, approaches him while holding a knife at his side. According to the suspect, the victim called him the n word and this made the suspect feel threatened, so he felt like he had to go stab him. Victim denies using n word until after he was stabbed.

In a hilarious twist, the defendant’s counsel claimed that the suspect “only wanted to see if the victim would be willing to trade the knife for a couple of cigarettes.”

After the stabbing, on police body camera, the victim starts calling the suspect that stabbed him the n word and the jury acquits him. Whether he said it before or after the stabbing makes no difference to me-it’s just a fucking word. A nasty word, but ultimately just a word. If he said it before the stabbing, he is still sitting down and no threat and the defendant already has the knife out and aggressively approaches the victim, who tries to stand up and shove his attacker away. If he said it after, so the fuck what! He was just stabbed for no reason.

Absolutely disgusting jury nullification by a woke ass jury ignoring an attempted murder because the victim said a bad word.





https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...s-old-town-stabbing-spurs-jury-to-acquit.html

 

[DoctorTaco]

“Their memo noted that Edwards was convicted of attempted second-degree assault in 2021 and was sentenced to three years in prison for another stabbing at the Skidmore Fountain MAX platform in May 2020. He was accused of fourth-degree assault for fighting with a clerk at Old Town’s Helen’s Market, but the case was dismissed in June because no public defender was available to take his case”

Jesus Christ


I do love the, “you’ve got it all wrong, he was offering to trade the knife for some cigs!” Argument.

Edit: i would like to see the ccTV footage of the incident though.

 

[Spam On Rye]

“In the Criminal Code of 1926 there was a most stupid Article 139 … according to which you had the right to unsheath your knife only after the criminal’s knife was hovering over you. And you could stab him only after he had stabbed you. And otherwise you would be the one put on trial.”

 

[Crazy Source]

i mean, there should be a law. you get stabbed by a black dude, you can call him a @@@@@@ with impunity. should work for every ethnic slur and for every act of aggression.

 

[nhbbear]

“Their memo noted that Edwards was convicted of attempted second-degree assault in 2021 and was sentenced to three years in prison for another stabbing at the Skidmore Fountain MAX platform in May 2020. He was accused of fourth-degree assault for fighting with a clerk at Old Town’s Helen’s Market, but the case was dismissed in June because no public defender was available to take his case”

Jesus Christ


I do love the, “you’ve got it all wrong, he was offering to trade the knife for some cigs!” Argument.

Edit: i would like to see the ccTV footage of the incident though.

I thought the video showed it. I don’t watch all of it to be fair. But the stabber’s past history shows that he is in fact, stabby. As is the child rapist-but he uses a different kind of weapon and is only fit for a wood chipper feet first. The defendant admitted that he stabbed the other man-but it was in self defense, which is insane to me. Again, so fucking what-he called the man a name and got stabbed for it-or said it after. This is a total miscarriage of justice.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Sorry, I made this thread yesterday, but didn’t post it because I wasn’t quite done and my sherdog page reset and I lost it.

Anyway, I will start by saying there are no “true victims” here. As a cop, we used to say that when both parties are complete shitbags. The stabbing victim is a convicted child rapist and the stabber has a violent record. Both are homeless and career criminals.

So, basically a Portland man, Gregory Howard, (the “victim”) is sitting on a bench when the suspect, Gary Edward’s, approaches him while holding a knife at his side. According to the suspect, the victim called him the n word and this made the suspect feel threatened, so he felt like he had to go stab him. Victim denies using n word until after he was stabbed.

In a hilarious twist, the defendant’s counsel claimed that the suspect “only wanted to see if the victim would be willing to trade the knife for a couple of cigarettes.”

After the stabbing, on police body camera, the victim starts calling the suspect that stabbed him the n word and the jury acquits him. Whether he said it before or after the stabbing makes no difference to me-it’s just a fucking word. A nasty word, but ultimately just a word. If he said it before the stabbing, he is still sitting down and no threat and the defendant already has the knife out and aggressively approaches the victim, who tries to stand up and shove his attacker away. If he said it after, so the fuck what! He was just stabbed for no reason.

Absolutely disgusting jury nullification by a woke ass jury ignoring an attempted murder because the victim said a bad word.





https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...s-old-town-stabbing-spurs-jury-to-acquit.html

NHI: No Humans Involved.

 

[nhbbear]

NHI: No Humans Involved.

Yeah, I have heard that one and it is def accurate-but we always said nrv no real victims

 

[DoctorTaco]

I thought the video showed it. I don’t watch all of it to be fair. But the stabber’s past history shows that he is in fact, stabby. As is the child rapist-but he uses a different kind of weapon and is only fit for a wood chipper feet first. The defendant admitted that he stabbed the other man-but it was in self defense, which is insane to me. Again, so fucking what-he called the man a name and got stabbed for it-or said it after. This is a total miscarriage of justice.

The commentary video seemed to just be the dude talking, but I was fast forwarding

 

[Pittie Petey]

White people shouldnt say that word

Lesson learned

 

[Sinister]

From my reading of the article you posted it seems that the jury was more inclined to believe the stabber's story that the guy was an aggressive racist before being stabbed being as he was a loud racist after being stabbed.

Oh also according to your article the stabee is a convicted child grapist. And I do recall a ton of tough words around this forum about what should happen to those guys. Amirite? We keeping that same energy, yeah?

 

[Bob Gray]

From my reading of the article you posted it seems that the jury was more inclined to believe the stabber's story that the guy was an aggressive racist before being stabbed being as he was a loud racist after being stabbed.

Oh also according to your article the stabee is a convicted child grapist. And I do recall a ton of tough words around this forum about what should happen to those guys. Amirite? We keeping that same energy, yeah?

What the hell is your point? If he's a racist, its legal to attack him with a knife while he's sitting on a bench?

 

[The XL]

Country is fucked.

 

[Sinister]

What the hell is your point? If he's a racist, its legal to attack him with a knife while he's sitting on a bench?

My point is that the jury believed the defendant's version of the events. Not some socio-political online forum framing of what happened. The defendant claimed he asked for a trade and was pushed while being called the N-word. They believed that, likely due to seeing the guy's behavior afterward, and likely that the knife wasnt hidden, the plaintiff initiated the physical contact, and that there was a scuffle before the plaintiff was actually stabbed. They believed the defendant he was telling the truth.

If a racist child grapist got stabbed for being a racist and putting his hands on a guy, f*ck him. Sorry he was white, I guess.

 

[AWilder]

i mean, there should be a law. you get stabbed by a black dude, you can call him a @@@@@@ with impunity. should work for every ethnic slur and for every act of aggression.

Sherdogger most likely to have a storm front account

 

[Andy Capp]

Sorry, I made this thread yesterday, but didn’t post it because I wasn’t quite done and my sherdog page reset and I lost it.

Anyway, I will start by saying there are no “true victims” here. As a cop, we used to say that when both parties are complete shitbags. The stabbing victim is a convicted child rapist and the stabber has a violent record. Both are homeless and career criminals.

So, basically a Portland man, Gregory Howard, (the “victim”) is sitting on a bench when the suspect, Gary Edward’s, approaches him while holding a knife at his side. According to the suspect, the victim called him the n word and this made the suspect feel threatened, so he felt like he had to go stab him. Victim denies using n word until after he was stabbed.

In a hilarious twist, the defendant’s counsel claimed that the suspect “only wanted to see if the victim would be willing to trade the knife for a couple of cigarettes.”

After the stabbing, on police body camera, the victim starts calling the suspect that stabbed him the n word and the jury acquits him. Whether he said it before or after the stabbing makes no difference to me-it’s just a fucking word. A nasty word, but ultimately just a word. If he said it before the stabbing, he is still sitting down and no threat and the defendant already has the knife out and aggressively approaches the victim, who tries to stand up and shove his attacker away. If he said it after, so the fuck what! He was just stabbed for no reason.

Absolutely disgusting jury nullification by a woke ass jury ignoring an attempted murder because the victim said a bad word.





https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...s-old-town-stabbing-spurs-jury-to-acquit.html

I feel like there has to be missing context here and that it's not the only reason the jury voted to acquit, but if it is, I'd say the blame lies with letting so many dipshits get empaneled instead of the prosecution using its peremptory challenges.

 

[nhbbear]

The commentary video seemed to just be the dude talking, but I was fast forwarding

Yeah, you’re right. I can’t find the video anywhere-just still pictures.

 

[Rob Battisti]

My point is that the jury believed the defendant's version of the events. Not some socio-political online forum framing of what happened. The defendant claimed he asked for a trade and was pushed while being called the N-word. They believed that, likely due to seeing the guy's behavior afterward, and likely that the knife wasnt hidden, the plaintiff initiated the physical contact, and that there was a scuffle before the plaintiff was actually stabbed. They believed the defendant he was telling the truth.

If a racist child grapist got stabbed for being a racist and putting his hands on a guy, f*ck him. Sorry he was white, I guess.

Am I reading it right that this isn’t the first stabbing from the stabber?

It seems the stabbee deserved to be stabbed.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Yeah, you’re right. I can’t find the video anywhere-just still pictures.

Old town/China town is the Wild West, I’m not surprised a couple transients got into it down there like this. I’ll withhold judgement until I see the video though, it may have played out the way it was written where the black dude wasn’t being threatening and the white dude jumped the gun and shoved him.

Completely acquitting the guy who’s on film chasing the other dude is wild though, sort of shoots (or stabs) the self defense narrative in the foot

 

[nhbbear]

From my reading of the article you posted it seems that the jury was more inclined to believe the stabber's story that the guy was an aggressive racist before being stabbed being as he was a loud racist after being stabbed.

Oh also according to your article the stabee is a convicted child grapist. And I do recall a ton of tough words around this forum about what should happen to those guys. Amirite? We keeping that same energy, yeah?

Fucking lol. So let’s assume you’re correct-that the jury believed the defendant that the victim said the word before the stabbing-it’s still justifying attempted murder over calling him that, which is a million percent insane.

Also, completely ignoring that the defendant has been convicted of stabbing people before this.
And as for the victim, “where’s the same energy?” STFU I already said he was only fit for a wood chipper feet first.

 

[Sinister]

Am I reading it right that this isn’t the first stabbing from the stabber?

It seems the stabbee deserved to be stabbed.

It wasnt his first stabbing. These guys are homeless so I expect some kinda list of offenses. I'm honestly surprised the dude just got stabbed in the shoulder and not much beyond that.

Yeah the stabee is not anyone worth advocating for, and the prosecution didnt make a convincing case that this was just some random black criminal looking for someone to stab.