Bisping tells the painful truth about Mighty Mouse!

[Dbreiden83080]

Again, you explicitly said: "nobody who is this tiny fights for a living." You're clearly standing by this statement. Let's be charitable and assume that Floyd (who for close to the first half of his career weighed 140 or below on fight night, and topped out around 150 at his heaviest, which is around what the heaviest MMA FlyWs top out at on fight night) is merely an exception. Throughout the long and storied career of combat sports, little to no one has cared about men who weigh roughly 140 pounds fighting each other which is why, as you confidently said: "nobody who is this tiny fights for a living." You stand by that point, right? So, let's look at a few fighters who should, or should've, struggled to elicit any response from fans and therefore have failed to make a living by fighting:

Julio Cesar Chavez
Roberto Duran
Manny Pacquiao
Erik Morales
Salvador Sanchez
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
George Dixon
Vasyl Lomachenko
Wilfredo Gomez
Barry McGuigan
Alexis Arguello
Fighting Harada
Vicente Saldivar
Rueben Olivares
Benny Leonard
Henry Armstrong

It's sad that these men wasted so much of their lives toiling in obscurity, unable to make a living wage. Hopefully MM figures out that he can't make a living by fighting sooner than later so he can avoid the fate of men like this.

Congratulations. You just listed a bunch of boxers. And let’s be clear about this. You may disagree but what I’m about to tell you is 100% true. Boxers are not fighters. They are just boxers. MMA is the sport of actual fighting. You might have great hands. But if I have the ability to take you down and choke u the fuck unconscious it means nothing.

If you are waiting to list some list of legendary guys at 125, you will be dead before that ever happens. Because grappling is such a huge part of this game and virtually nobody and I mean nobody which is a minuscule percentage at best wants any part of that shit. Size will always play a huge part of the sport. You can’t just throw hands. This individual we are arguing about was literally fucking manhandled at 135 by the champion. Did you see that fight? Because he was tossed around like a ragdoll. People that like to claim it was close are rewriting history. It was not close. He was badly out wrestled. That is why he fled the division. That is why he is so scared to fight anybody that even represents the division. That is why he is campaigning for a pathetic payday in no way he deserves so somebody can actually come down to his class and fight him. Who in the history of the sport has ever been campaigning for a huge pay raise so somebody can come down to challenge them for their title? It’s hilarious. This man has basically got used to fighting kindergartners. And now an incredibly huge man who stands all of 5-6 has him shitting his pants. Imagine the shit that GSP would have taken if he stalled the UFC and demanded a huge pay raise when BJ Penn wanted to come up and face him? It doesn’t happen. It’s happening now because he understands he is fighting nobody. And now he has to fight somebody.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

How could a GOAT come out of the worst division of all time?

Because this pound for pound argument has gotten completely out of hand. Nobody who is 5-3 is competing in MMA. Who the fuck is only 5-3? There is literally no country in the world that Has men that short.

 

[IloveTHIS]

damn when this guy says stuff I generally agree with it makes me want to completely change my stance...
MM #1 p4p ATG GOAT

 

[Agnawedbone]

Congratulations. You just listed a bunch of boxers. And let’s be clear about this. You may disagree but what I’m about to tell you is 100% true. Boxers are not fighters. They are just boxers. MMA is the sport of actual fighting. You might have great hands. But if I have the ability to take you down and choke u the fuck unconscious it means nothing.

If you are waiting to list some list of legendary guys at 125, you will be dead before that ever happens. Because grappling is such a huge part of this game and virtually nobody and I mean nobody which is a minuscule percentage at best wants any part of that shit. Size will always play a huge part of the sport. You can’t just throw hands. This individual we are arguing about was literally fucking manhandled at 135 by the champion. Did you see that fight? Because he was tossed around like a ragdoll. People that like to claim it was close are rewriting history. It was not close. He was badly out wrestled. That is why he fled the division. That is why he is so scared to fight anybody that even represents the division. That is why he is campaigning for a pathetic payday in no way he deserves so somebody can actually come down to his class and fight him. Who in the history of the sport has ever been campaigning for a huge pay raise so somebody can come down to challenge them for their title? It’s hilarious. This man has basically got used to fighting kindergartners. And now an incredibly huge man who stands all of 5-6 has him shitting his pants.

so you're pretty arrogant for someone who just wrote something so incredibly fucking stupid.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

so you're pretty arrogant for someone who just wrote something so incredibly fucking stupid.

Why don’t you back that up with some facts? Who fights in this division? Who is a great fighter? Who has he fought that is worth a damn? You think Michael is wrong? Explain why. His reaction to this propose fight with TJ says everything. TJ wants to come down and DJ does not want to fight him. Why? Because he knows it’s an actual tough fight.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

(i) I love Bisping, and (ii) yeah, DJ doesn't have the most impressive record.

But people make it seem to be a lot worse than it actually is.

Well you know what there are people on here that don’t respect Dominic Cruz. The last actual fight he had was against Cruz. A loss. Then he went And fought a bunch of grade schoolers.

 

[Agnawedbone]

Why don’t you back that up with some facts? Who fights in this division? Who is a great fighter? Who has he fought that is worth a damn? You think Michael is wrong? Explain why. His reaction to this propose fight with TJ says everything. TJ wants to come down and DJ does not want to fight him. Why? Because he knows it’s an actual tough fight.

You haven't said anything even remotely worth rebutting. The assumption that because MM is only fighting guys slightly larger than him instead of ridiculously larger somehow discredits his accomplishments is such an obvious and illogical double standard that no intelligent person could ever mistake it as anything but the ramblings of an irrelevant moron.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

This is idiotic, what could a FW fighter do to convince everyone they're the real deal besides beating MM? If winning the Olypics isn't good enough, becoming the #1 contender in the division isn't good enough, being champ in other promotions isn't good enough, what else is there? MM can't be considered great until he loses because the only feasible way for any of his opponents to gain people's respect is to beat him. It's a mad circle and if you believe it you might be retarded and should get that looked at.

Winning an Olympic gold actually doesn't mean much, there's hundreds of gold medalis that could never be mma elite. Well being gifted a TS isn't being the number 1 contender how many of dj title defenses are vs THE number one contender not Borg, not Rias, not Elliott, not Cejudo, (was Dodson #1?), not horiguchi, not Cariaso, not bagautinov, Benavidez #1, not moraga, so yeah most of them never even accomplished this feat or came close in alot of cases.

 

[SherdogJoe]

Demetrious knows it too, that's why he's avoiding TJ.

 

[Sirwastealot]

And yet the same people are impressed with DC beating Oezdemir

I haven't heard a lot of praise for DC beating Oezdemir, he even gets criticised for his anderson silva win.

He's mostly praised for beating rumble, gus and tossing around HWs like barnett and mir.

Bisping has a point. Most of the top fighters have gone through a few fights with killers and the more time they spend at the top the more difficult their competition becomes. DC moved down to face Jones and is now moving up to face Stipe.

That's why MM needs to fight TJ. He's losing credibility fast.

 

[jamielowndes]

Bisping just says contrarian bullshit for the reaction. You just smirk and move on.

 

[JayE]

Bipsing does say some praiseworthy things.

Seems insulting to me for people to claim a guy the size of a grade school kid is the GOAT when he and his opponents are well below the average size of a man.

It's like having a separate professional basketball league for people under 5' and claiming the MVP is the best basketball player in the world.

Congratulations. You just listed a bunch of boxers. And let’s be clear about this. You may disagree but what I’m about to tell you is 100% true. Boxers are not fighters. They are just boxers. MMA is the sport of actual fighting. You might have great hands. But if I have the ability to take you down and choke u the fuck unconscious it means nothing.

If you are waiting to list some list of legendary guys at 125, you will be dead before that ever happens. Because grappling is such a huge part of this game and virtually nobody and I mean nobody which is a minuscule percentage at best wants any part of that shit. Size will always play a huge part of the sport. You can’t just throw hands. This individual we are arguing about was literally fucking manhandled at 135 by the champion. Did you see that fight? Because he was tossed around like a ragdoll. People that like to claim it was close are rewriting history. It was not close. He was badly out wrestled. That is why he fled the division. That is why he is so scared to fight anybody that even represents the division. That is why he is campaigning for a pathetic payday in no way he deserves so somebody can actually come down to his class and fight him. Who in the history of the sport has ever been campaigning for a huge pay raise so somebody can come down to challenge them for their title? It’s hilarious. This man has basically got used to fighting kindergartners. And now an incredibly huge man who stands all of 5-6 has him shitting his pants. Imagine the shit that GSP would have taken if he stalled the UFC and demanded a huge pay raise when BJ Penn wanted to come up and face him? It doesn’t happen. It’s happening now because he understands he is fighting nobody. And now he has to fight somebody.

Let's just go with that. You're a fucking hero, mang.

 

[K4BOSH]

Says the former 205er who got KOd by a 170 retiree that can fight 155.

 

[JayE]

Congratulations. You just listed a bunch of boxers. And let’s be clear about this. You may disagree but what I’m about to tell you is 100% true. Boxers are not fighters. They are just boxers. MMA is the sport of actual fighting. You might have great hands. But if I have the ability to take you down and choke u the fuck unconscious it means nothing.

If you are waiting to list some list of legendary guys at 125, you will be dead before that ever happens. Because grappling is such a huge part of this game and virtually nobody and I mean nobody which is a minuscule percentage at best wants any part of that shit. Size will always play a huge part of the sport. You can’t just throw hands. This individual we are arguing about was literally fucking manhandled at 135 by the champion. Did you see that fight? Because he was tossed around like a ragdoll. People that like to claim it was close are rewriting history. It was not close. He was badly out wrestled. That is why he fled the division. That is why he is so scared to fight anybody that even represents the division. That is why he is campaigning for a pathetic payday in no way he deserves so somebody can actually come down to his class and fight him. Who in the history of the sport has ever been campaigning for a huge pay raise so somebody can come down to challenge them for their title? It’s hilarious. This man has basically got used to fighting kindergartners. And now an incredibly huge man who stands all of 5-6 has him shitting his pants. Imagine the shit that GSP would have taken if he stalled the UFC and demanded a huge pay raise when BJ Penn wanted to come up and face him? It doesn’t happen. It’s happening now because he understands he is fighting nobody. And now he has to fight somebody.

Holy fuck, this is a masterpiece of clusterfuck.

 

[Broke Lester]

You're a village idiot.

I've basically said MM is so small he can do things bigger fighters can't. And your counter is, "show me bigger fighters who do what MM does?"



Dodson is just as athletic as Mouse. He also won their first fight.

The Showtime kick off the cage was athletic. But he's 145. Very small.

You're just an idiot who doesn't understand a very simple concept. Smaller weight/mass means faster output with less effort.

You had nothing after my bodyweight exercise example. That one statement flushes your entire reasoning down the toilet, where it belongs btw.

Loser, i said name one other small fighter that can do what MM does, and this is the nonsense response you give me, learn to read and comprehend, and formulate a proper answer.

What you can't grasp or admit to is that there are no other fighters who can do what he can cause they lack the combination of skill, power and speed.

YOU KEEP RECYCLING THE SAME SHIT, BUT YOU HAVE YET TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER FIGHTER, IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS , WHO CAN DO WHAT MM CAN.

THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS POST A PICTURE OF HHH, YOU THINKS THAT VALIDATES YOUR STUPID ARGUMENT?

LIKE I SAID BEFORE....FUCK OFF LOSER

 

[lucky79]

Says the former 205er who got KOd by a 170 retiree that can fight 155.

He's referring to skill not size. Well played on missing the point completely.

 

[Skarr]

what truth did he tell, we all know that MM isnt fighting 12year old girls so there was literally no truth in what Bisping said and if its just hyperbole and 12year old girl is just a metaphor for lesser end ufc fighters.....howcome you werent throwing jorge rivera around and down into an armbar....Michael? where was the suplexes then? Bisping subtly trying to make someone else look like a shittier champ than he was


where were these sick submissions youre talking about Bisping, when you 'beat' matt hamill?

 

[Carsormyr]

You haven't said anything even remotely worth rebutting. The assumption that because MM is only fighting guys slightly larger than him instead of ridiculously larger somehow discredits his accomplishments is such an obvious and illogical double standard that no intelligent person could ever mistake it as anything but the ramblings of an irrelevant moron.

Good lord someone call the police he just killed this man.

 

[watts1976]

I wonder if mighty mouse could beat Cain under the right circumstances?

Sea level Cain?

 

[Omega Man]

Not a fan of MM. A champ should challenge themselves.