Social Bill Nye the….. Nazi guy?

[Ares Black]

Within context, if I were to do the exact same gesture at some office event where I was receiving an award, and said "my heart goes out to you" to the crowd right after, nobody would think twice about what the gesture meant.

Wait, do you actually believe this?

 

[Ares Black]

 

[HereticBD]

Wait, do you actually believe this?

Yes. You see, I'm not a prominent Republican on the TV at the forefront of a culture war, and no news networks would try to create a story over it. It would immediately be understood what I meant, and a bunch Liberal bleeding vaginas wouldn't give two shits about it, because I don't haunt their dreams(present company excluded).

 

[Ares Black]

Yes. You see, I'm not a prominent Republican on the TV at the forefront of a culture war, and no news networks would try to create a story over it. It would immediately be understood what I meant, and a bunch Liberal bleeding vaginas wouldn't give two shits about it, because I don't haunt their dreams(present company excluded).

If you did what Elon Musk did at a work event you would probably get fired and everyone there would think you were a Nazi.

Go ahead. Film yourself doing it and post it online.

 

[Ares Black]

I swear, Elon Musk fans have completely lost the plot.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Are you saying he didn't do a nazi salute?

I've already answered that the motion is similar but then ror consistency we have to acknowledge that many others have done similar. Examples have been posted in this thread in case you ask.

But if your contention is that it IS exactly a Nazi salute and that he IS a Nazi then I don't agree with you.

I can agree that the motion was similar but it doesn't make him a Nazi.

 

[Ares Black]

I've already answered that the motion is similar but then ror consistency we have to acknowledge that many others have done similar. Examples have been posted in this thread in case you ask.

Except that none of the "examples" are particularly close to a fascist salute, whereas Musk's was identical.

You are being wilfully obtuse.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Except that none of the "examples" are particularly close to a fascist salute, whereas Musk's was identical.

You are being wilfully obtuse.

No I'm not. You're asking me to agree it was exactly like a nazi salute and therefore he is a nazi. Which is stupid and lazy position to take.

 

[Ares Black]

No I'm not. You're asking me to agree it was exactly like a nazi salute and therefore he is a nazi. Which is stupid and lazy position to take.

I have never asked anything of the sort.

I'm just asking you people to admit that Elon Musk did a fascist salute. Twice.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I have never asked anything of the sort.

I'm just asking you people to admit that Elon Musk did a fascist salute. Twice.

I've already said it resembled it - as are so many other examples from others, but what is your end goal then? Let's say that it was 100% a nazi salute. Then what? Do you think it was a poor decision in the heat of the moment? Or do you think he's a Nazi?

People are trying to make the distinction that his salute was exactly like a Nazi but are unwilling to say they think he's a Nazi? This doesnt' make sense since they so vehemtly insist his salute was exactly like a Nazi.

As far as I can tell, these are the three takes people can take here:

1. 'His salute was not like a Nazi salute!! He is not a Nazi.'
2. 'His salute was similar to a Nazi salute!!! But don't worry, I don't think he's a Nazi. He's just a goof/edgelord who got caught up in the moment.'
3. 'His salute was exactly like a Nazi salute!!! He must be a Nazi'

Am I missing one?

 

[Ares Black]

I've already said it resembled it - as are so many other examples from others, but what is your end goal then? Let's say that it was 100% a nazi salute. Then what? Do you think it was a poor decision in the heat of the moment? Or do you think he's a Nazi?

People are trying to make the distinction that his salute was exactly like a Nazi but are unwilling to say they think he's a Nazi? This doesnt' make sense since they so vehemtly insist his salute was exactly like a Nazi.

As far as I can tell, these are the three takes people can take here:

1. 'His salute was not like a Nazi salute!! He is not a Nazi.'
2. 'His salute was similar to a Nazi salute!!! But don't worry, I don't think he's a Nazi. He's just a goof/edgelord who got caught up in the moment.'
3. 'His salute was exactly like a Nazi salute!!! He must be a Nazi'

Am I missing one?

Dude.

If you keep saying that Musk's salute was like many other examples you have lost all credibility.

They aren't the same.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Dude.

If you keep saying that Musk's salute was like many other examples you have lost all credibility.

They aren't the same.

I don't agree with you.

But that's fine, we're allowed to disagree to agree.

 

[Ares Black]

As far as I can tell, these are the three takes people can take here:

1. 'His salute was not like a Nazi salute!! He is not a Nazi.'

That is an asinine tale

2. 'His salute was similar to a Nazi salute!!! But don't worry, I don't think he's a Nazi. He's just a goof/edgelord who got caught up in the moment.'

Probably the closest to the truth, except for the don't worry part. It's not great that the world's richest man is displaying such poor judgement

3. 'His salute was exactly like a Nazi salute!!! He must be a Nazi'

Well, it was. I don't think he's an outright Nazi, but I do think he's a fucking loathsome fascist with a drug habit and a breeder fetish.

Am I missing one?

You are missing a lot of things.

 

[Ares Black]

I don't agree with you.

But that's fine, we're allowed to disagree to agree.

Cool. Except that what we disagree about is pretty fucking important.


You can pretend everything is fine if you want. Lots of cowards do just that.

 

[Deaths Head]

If you did what Elon Musk did at a work event you would probably get fired and everyone there would think you were a Nazi.

Go ahead. Film yourself doing it and post it online.

Haha . I had an article where a few political historians and experts on war history and culture say he did it on purpose and knew what he was doing . I’m not saying he did or not but the thought any person who thinks doing this at a presidential inauguration is a good idea shows how dangerous it is to have someone like this having power over actual government officials .

Personally I don’t think Musk is intelligent enough to think on his own like this if it was a planned act he was definitely told by Trump to do it bc there’s no way he would without knowing there is no consequences, even an average 13 year old would know this is going to get negative backlash at every turn .

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

You are missing a lot of things.

I'm trying to be cordial with you, but this doesn't help. Have I been disrespectful to you or your position?

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Cool. Except that what we disagree about is pretty fucking important.


You can pretend everything is fine if you want. Lots of cowards do just that.

again, i'm happy to have a discussion with you where we don't agree, but if you resort to name calling, then we're done here.

 

[Ares Black]

again, i'm happy to have a discussion with you where we don't agree, but if you resort to name calling, then we're done here.

I apologize, although the name-calling was indirect, and intentionally so.

 

[Rod1]

Examples have been posted in this thread in case you ask.

 

[Rod1]

Someone can do a Nazi like salute and not be a Nazi, Musk and Nye are perfect examples. Is it a big deal then?

Not according to @HereticBD only real Nazis can do Nazi salutes, ergo if Musk is not a Nazi by definition he can't do a Nazi salute even if he wanted.